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Nintendo is removing games from my Wii U & 3DS
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I had been thinking of giving away a CN monthly game if one ever came up that I really wanted more people to play (*cough* Super Metroid *cough*), so it was really worrying me that your account might've been knocked out for that. Therefore, just called Nintendo Customer Support, and they said that there is nothing against the TOS about giving away codes. Selling codes is definitely against the TOS, but giving them away is A-Okay. I asked if I would need to provide any documentation of it, mentioned that if I did, I'd probably give it away on a forum (i.e. here), and he said maybe just keep the link to the giveaway just in case a question ever came up.
From that, would say that if the issue does come back that they thought you were selling codes, explain the situation (12K coins and not a thing worth spending them on!), show them the links to the giveaways, and it hopefully will all be fixed.
From that, would say that if the issue does come back that they thought you were selling codes, explain the situation (12K coins and not a thing worth spending them on!), show them the links to the giveaways, and it hopefully will all be fixed.
Gucci Messiah
Banned
This post is laughable, what the heck is anti-Nintendo action? You should have just said anyone who says something bad about Nintendo's policies and hurts your feelings should be banned.
I'm still waiting for this guy to come back and defend this statement.
OP, I'm sorry to hear about your situation, that really sucks. Hopefully Nintendo gives you a call back so this can be sorted out, assuming you've given us all the details, I don't see how what you did was wrong.
Team Top Hat
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No no, I'm not registering literally the same game twice. I am buying X game 2, 3, 4 times. Then using the code from each to register.
truestatic
Member
I'm saying that they reward coins for feedback, and you personally submitting multiple sets of feedback for the same game is on some small level compromising the system with junk data. In a way, so does giving out the codes to people who fill them out for games they don't own and have never played. It sucks and it's easy to think of the points as a reward for simply buying the game, but I don't think their reasoning for the ToS is completely nonsensical garbage.
The family sub-account system is there for different people within the same family to submit surveys and pool coins for games they both own. Not for one individual to register and submit multiple surveys for multiple copies of the same game.
I know, but I just dislike it when company is using a survey without any meaningful gain for the consumers, and brand loyalists are being pushy on why others should be answering honestly to increase their brand's benefits.
And right now, Nintendo is trying to use my survey as a highly valued consumer market research data point in figuring out why I and many others are spending so much money on theirs products, and how they can effectively using the right channel of marketing to get others in buying into their brand.
However, they don't treat anyone of us like a valued consumer of their products.
Nintendo is not doing a fair exchange for information based on economics value of the survey and time valuation.
Maybe I am still mad since my annual Platinum status hadn't award me with anything in these past two years. I am buying yearly calendar so my points don't expired on me...That's just sad.
Team Top Hat
Banned
Every first party Nintendo game for 3DS and Wii U I buy 4 times. Once digitally for my self, once physically for myself, once for my niece, once for my nephew. In some cases I buy the game physically and digitally for my niece and nephew. I've also received CN codes from other family members and friends as well.
Exactly, it doesn't allow you register the same code twice (even in family account), the only way that OP was getting all that coins was registering different instances of the same game into different family accounts, which IMO shouldn't be against the ToS.
In that case, you're lucky they don't revoke your coins (I don't know whether it's in their ToS to do so, but since it essentially means you're getting something from them for free, it's in their interest to do so.
I see, then I wouldn't consider your case fraud, but that is still against the TOS. Good luck to you.
Nicktendo86
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Really sucks op, hope they give you your stuff back with a friendly warning not to do it again. As far as they know all the physical copies could just be codes bought off eBay, so I see why they have done it. Heavy handed though.
I'd be more inclined to get rid of console warriors with persecution complexes, to be honest.
Good.
I don't use the coins, nor my online account like others.
My Platinum status has been useless since 2012.
Edit: LOL wut, for free? I bought the game, and my 2mins in filling out the survey does come with a cost.
truestatic
Member
To continue being the loathsome devil's advocate, the alternative to offering junk data or wasting your time honestly filling out a survey you don't feel adequately rewards your time spent, is to simply not fill out the survey at all. I agree with you. Rewards have been crap recently. The switch to all digital has made that even more painfully so. I haven't worked up the interest to input a single code since the start of the new year, and I've probably got enough codes sitting around here to hit platinum right now.
I think I've made my points though, so I'm going to exit the thread now cuz being the frustratingly shitty voice of reason is making me feel like a gross shill. Sorry for your trouble, TTH. Hope things get resolved in your favour.
reptilescorpio
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I see literally zero issue with what you are doing. I hope Nintendo come to the party and stop being dicks about it and give your games back.
If you think there's no meaningful gain for the consumer, don't take the surveys. I take those surveys and do nothing with the coins. The rewards are mediocre but just filling out the survey and having my voice heard is enough of a reason. I started doing this after they removed the RPG elements from Paper Mario: Sticker Star because it did not get enough support from Club Nintendo surveys.
I think you're letting the anger from their mediocre rewards cloud your judgement. The rewards should be a bonus, not the goal.
This suddenly brought to mind the image of some sort of ancient Greek warrior, clad in an Atari 2600 "skirt" and waving a Wii Remote in the air.
DeuceGamer
Member
I don't like this. What if I but a game, trade it in for whatever reason, the rebuy the game later? I also have children so buy games for them as well as myself.
Against ToS or not they need a better monitoring system than to let you have the awards and them abruptly remove the rewards/coins at some point in the future when it suits them. As someone who spends a large amount on Nintendo games this would be huge turn off should it happen to me.
Good luck OP. I may shoot them an email myself and voice my displeasure.
Against ToS or not they need a better monitoring system than to let you have the awards and them abruptly remove the rewards/coins at some point in the future when it suits them. As someone who spends a large amount on Nintendo games this would be huge turn off should it happen to me.
Good luck OP. I may shoot them an email myself and voice my displeasure.
Wii remote for the sword, gamepad for the shield and virtual boy mounted on for the helmet.
No doubt. dem cats browse GAF all the time.
If OP was not punished for his actions, I wouldn't care. If OP illegally downloaded his entire gaming collection, I wouldn't care.
However, it doesn't make sense to support or encourage people complaining that they were punished for knowingly violating the system. That system is in place to help Nintendo make better games. We all want Nintendo to make better games.
Entrecôte;127687196 said:This needs to be a Meme ASAP, it's great
Reporter: "Looking at the NPD sales for the past month, it looks like America took up 'Anti-Nintendo Action' by refusing to buy their latest console since nothing's come out since Mario Kart 8 three months ago. Back to you, Steve."
Sakura
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Er, well OP, Club Nintendo is a reward programme mainly for people who complete surveys for games they purchase. You have to agree to the ToS to use the programme. What you did quite clearly violates the ToS.
It's not like they are taking away games you purchased from you, they are simply taking away rewards from their reward programme, because you violated the ToS, right? I can understand being upset, but it isn't exactly unfair.
It's not like they are taking away games you purchased from you, they are simply taking away rewards from their reward programme, because you violated the ToS, right? I can understand being upset, but it isn't exactly unfair.
Dude single-handedly bought more games from Nintendo in the past year than you've played in your entire life. I think he's doing his part to help Nintendo make better games.
Sammy Samusu
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I've been warning people here on Neogaf, you are not the first, some people tried to abuse the free credit and free game promo and got their account and games deleted.
How is discouraging the purchase of more games helping Nintendo do anything, period?
Gucci Messiah
Banned
Nothing1016
Member
No. It seems to only be affecting CN rewarded games. Those ones that you pay for using your virtual coin currency or have received by getting platinum/gold. An actual retail game like that should be fine.
Edit: Well that's what it sounds like.
It's a common practice here on gaf, people give away codes all the time. I got Mario Kart 64 that way, hope we'll be fine .__.
Oh, you was talking about eShop codes, nvm
Jigolo
Member
Looooopl wtf"fite me bruh"
just having some fun lol
Ah okay, good to know! The less stuff to worry about the better.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
This makes me scared to go hunting for a Wind Waker Wii U code.
PotionBleue
Member
No. EU Club Nintendo mentions the exact same thing as NA Club Nintendo.
I don't understand why laws would force Nintendo to accept anything here. It's a reward program, you're not even entitled to get a Club Nintendo PIN when buying a product since it's not advertised on the box and games may or may not have them. If by chance you buy a product that has a CN PIN yet still manage to break Nintendo's ToS, why would the law care.
http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/club/en/terms.jsp
C. MISUSE OF CLUB NINTENDO.
You may not:
- register more than once as a Club Nintendo member;
- register the same Nintendo product more than once, unless expressly permitted by us;
- register a product which was not lawfully purchased;
- make use of Coins in any way other than for your own or members of your Family Account's personal use -- in particular, you may not sell, buy or auction Coins or transfer Coins to another account;
- use or promote illicit technical aids in order to earn Coins, for example, to create, offer, distribute or use software programs or other means that create an automatic online interaction with Nintendo; or
- sell rewards.
https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Legal/Club-Nintendo-Terms-and-Conditions/Terms-and-Conditions-636028.html
5. Misuse of Club Nintendo
You are not allowed to:
- register more than once as a member of Club Nintendo;
- supply false information when registering;
- register the same Nintendo product more than once, unless expressly permitted;
- register a product which has not been lawfully purchased;
- make use of Stars in any other way than for your personal use only; in particular, it is prohibited to sell or buy Stars or to transfer Stars to another person;
- use or promote illicit technical aids in order to earn Stars, e.g. to create, offer, distribute or use software programs or other means that create an automatic online interaction with Nintendo or that create Club Nintendo PINs.
FrostuTheNinja
Member
Dude single-handedly bought more games from Nintendo in the past year than you've played in your entire life. I think he's doing his part to help Nintendo make better games.
Hahaha true. I buy pretty much everything from Nintendo used. He was really subsidizing me when you think about it.
I see what you mean, we just want to make sure the blame is laid for the appropriate reasons. OP is at fault for collecting those coins since it's again the ToS. Nintendo is not to blame for carrying out the punishment.
Nintendo is, however, also at fault for not building a system that lets them differentiate between the data they need from surveys and these coins. They should know OP is a single person and only count his data once. He is a huge champion for them, going so far as to give away coins for free to promote them.
Weird to read this kind of criticism directed towards a guy who admitted to buying 4 or 6 copies of every 3DS and Wii U Nintendo game. But yeah, keep on making Nintendo better
Sakura
Member
I think you have to consider that Nintendo rewards are very limited in quantity.
This guy had what, 12000 coins? He could get like, 8 Luigi statues with that many coins technically couldn't he? And then sell them on eBay to make bank. Or at the very least that would be 7 less statues for other people who have been saving up coins to purchase. That goes against the spirit of the reward program.
Now, I am not saying the OP is doing this, just that it makes sense to me why they do not allow people to farm codes.
Weird to read this kind of criticism directed towards a guy who admitted to buying 4 or 6 copies of every 3DS and Wii U Nintendo game. But yeah, keep on making Nintendo better
It's not directed toward OP, it's directed to the guy who admitted to filling out surveys with junk data.
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
Just because it's in a TOS doesn't mean it's it necessarily legal.
The thing is, if he set up 8 main accounts (one for each family member), and gave each person those rewards individually, it would be allowed. He is giving Nintendo more information by linking the accounts. They should appreciate that.
Farming codes is not a reasonable problem to stop. If someone wants 8 Luigi statues, they should be able to buy 8 Luigi statues. Nintendo should produce enough statues to meet the demand. It seems Nintendo bans account farming because they want one survey completed per game player, but they should let him indicate that a single survey is attached to multiple games so it doesn't screw up their data analytics.
Ingueferroque
Banned
What do you mean? What are you saying?
blame space
Banned
that post is an anti-nintendo false flag
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