Opinions, and subsequent reviews score, aren't invalidated because a dev claimed a game isn't for everyone. Nothing is for everyone. If the expectations for the game were too high, it's because the devs themselves were out there throwing out nonsense about the game in the first place.
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No Man's Sky Review Thread: The Scores Have Arrived (read OP)
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Opinions, and subsequent reviews score, aren't invalidated because a dev claimed a game isn't for everyone. Nothing is for everyone. If the expectations for the game were too high, it's because the devs themselves were out there throwing out nonsense about the game in the first place.
Agreed, and as always, 1-2 points can be added or subtracted depending on your personal taste.
TheOohChild
Member
The wide variance in scores isn't surprising. The game has obvious issues, but I am having a great time with it.
SolidChamp
Banned
Yes, you should be glad you are so easily swayed by hype and what other people think. Good on you for not making up your own mind.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
(Psst - the game is really good)
From the PC thread
Lol
manfestival
Member
Time to take this game and throw it in the trash because of reviews
The game is 90% what they promised. Honestly the handful of things which aren't in the game are minor.
Not trying to downplay the shit they did practically lie about, or not be transparent about, but they absolutely did not lie about the entire experience. It's exactly what I read about for the last year.
Chill Penguin
Member
You have to hand it to their trailer team. They make spectacular trailers that heavily added to the hype. E3 2014 was one of the best I've ever seen. No wonder people were frothing at the mouth for this game.
SolidChamp
Banned
"Nonsense"? I followed the development of the game about as closely as anyone. Watched Shawn demo the game, same as anyone. Said to myself "Hey, that could be great," and left it at that. Buying it, I knew it could go either way, I wasn't sure if I was gonna like it. I kept my expectations LEVEL.
I have no idea what "nonsense" you're referring to, aside from the obviously "multiplayer" thing being blown WAY the fuck out of proportion by most people here, but...for the most part I got the game he showed.
What in the holy hell were people expecting? Game of the gods? Because people are acting like that's what they wanted Hello Games to deliver,
This is mental.
2blackcats
Member
Yeah, at least some of the people not buying this are missing out. I can totally understand why some won't like it. It's a niche game. I think it's fricking amazing though. 9/10
Excusing technical issues (in a practical or critical sense) by saying a game is indie has to be one of the more insulting reactions. As supposition for why bugs could have been missed in general? Absolutely, but man, it shouldn't be a retort to bigger issues in a game. It's condescending for a retail product.
Ooooooooooor, good for them that they decided to read the current reviews/impressions of the game + watched all the streams and lets plays of the game and decide that it wasn't for them.
marlowesghost
Member
Right, but steam games can be refunded. So that number is hardly indicative of actual sales.
I see this the first true modern entitled gamer review of 2016
This is the face of how hard work and dedication will be perceived by the internet
And it marks the first time comment rhetoric has become the norm for reviews
from now on the developers will be held ransom for managing our expectations at a microscopic and psychological level
I'm not blown away by this game at all I am however blown away by just observing the whole situation
This is the face of how hard work and dedication will be perceived by the internet
And it marks the first time comment rhetoric has become the norm for reviews
from now on the developers will be held ransom for managing our expectations at a microscopic and psychological level
I'm not blown away by this game at all I am however blown away by just observing the whole situation
SolidChamp
Banned
And I've read posts from those people, and said "Totally fair," to them. That post basically reads like "Hype was intense, but look at these review scores. I'm out."
Mr. Giggles
Member
Ditto that good buddy.
This implies an obligation to purchase games before deciding if they're worth someone's time/money. That sounds absolutely loony.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
I mean, they can. But one has to wonder how many casual users actually know about refunds and know where to find them.
And/or know the limitations on requesting them. You're right though, the numbers won't be stable for a while.
Welfare
Member
From the PC thread
Being an indie game is an actual excuse? Get out of here with that.
SolidChamp
Banned
I'm talking about the culture of looking at a fucking number on an aggregate website and writing something off based on said number.
Yeah, I waited for reviews, because everything seemed to hint that the game wouldn't have enough narrative to sustain my interest.
Which I think is the main problem.. not that you don't have a final objective (as several reviews are saying) -- I mean, isn't reaching the middle of the Universe, the core purpose?
But in my case, with precious little time available to spend on games, if there is no interesting narrative to get - at somewhat regular intervals (via books, or NPCs or at least internal voice)-, then my interest wanes quickly.
It gets worse if the Multiplayer is also muted. From what I read in the patch notes, they seem to be adding "decision consequences" to the story mode. That's a good step, but one they should have followed since day 1.
Oh well. Will get it on a sell, for sure.
Which I think is the main problem.. not that you don't have a final objective (as several reviews are saying) -- I mean, isn't reaching the middle of the Universe, the core purpose?
But in my case, with precious little time available to spend on games, if there is no interesting narrative to get - at somewhat regular intervals (via books, or NPCs or at least internal voice)-, then my interest wanes quickly.
It gets worse if the Multiplayer is also muted. From what I read in the patch notes, they seem to be adding "decision consequences" to the story mode. That's a good step, but one they should have followed since day 1.
Oh well. Will get it on a sell, for sure.
After a long week of reading reviews, watching streams, and reading impressions, I'm really bummed this game just doesn't feel worth it to me. Granted this is due in large part to personal opinions on game worth, but if this was $30 I'd be all over it. The first few hours seem like they're amazing, but the repetitiveness would get to me far too fast.
The post you responded to was saying they were initially excited because of the community's positive reaction to the reveal, but that they were glad they held off after seeing reactions to the final product. That's not unreasonable at all. It seems like you're filling in gaps with assumptions.
I agree that people can miss out if they get too hung up on the "meta-game" of review scores, and review culture in general, but that wasn't what I saw.
I have to agree. the $60 price point will be a detriment to the game in the long run. $30 would be good, i would be all over that as well, and probably the backlash of the game would not be as big. Charge that much for a game, people will definitely have a higher set of standards and expectations from the game, and i don't think they are wrong either for expecting it.
themadcowtipper
Smells faintly of rancid stilton.
Maybe the developer shouldn't lie about skyboxes, and the ton of other stuff brought up here on Gaf...
My "Freudian-Slip of the Year" goes to Cowtipper.
Andrew Evenstar
Member
Predicted this from all the gameplay footage up to release. Game just doesn't look that interesting or fun.
True. It's the same thing over and over, and it doesn't stay fun.
True. It's the same thing over and over, and it doesn't stay fun.
themadcowtipper
Smells faintly of rancid stilton.
Auto correct on celluar device...
My phone actively tries to ruin relationships with the way it avoids things I swear I typed.
Acerac
Banned
Considering the sales they are getting? Oh, I'm sure they'll learn a lesson from this experience.
Promise the world, hype results in sales.
There's that word again. -_-
Robert at Zeboyd Games
Banned
The actual number of Steam sales is probably drastically higher than that since that 200k+ is people actually in the game this second (on a weekday). Even taking into account refunds, I think it's safe to say that everyone at the developer with a revshare is going to be quite wealthy after the next payment.
Mass Appeal
Member
I am kinda glad I waited and didn't buy into hype now. Friend of mine bought this and said game has great immersion but no depth or variety in the gameplay. He basically said it feels like an indie game that should have been $30. I will pick it up during black Friday when it will be pretty cheap by then. Maybe by then they will add more variety to the game.
Retromelon
Member
LMFAO
I'm so shocked that a PlayStation site wrote this
Audioboxer
Member
DirtyLarry
Member
If anyone is interested in the PS4 disk version in the US for $40 shipped send me a DM.
I actually like what I have played so far, I just have no patience for mining.
Being 41, my time to play games is extremely limited these days.
I prefer not to spend that time mining for resources, even a little.
So that's my impression. Good game for those that have the time to dedicate.
Not so good game for those who do not.
I actually like what I have played so far, I just have no patience for mining.
Being 41, my time to play games is extremely limited these days.
I prefer not to spend that time mining for resources, even a little.
So that's my impression. Good game for those that have the time to dedicate.
Not so good game for those who do not.
You know, it's nice when unexpected things are in a game too, right? I went on media blackout for this game about a year ago and my expectations were met but not exceeded. The things I mentioned, yes, were not advertised but could have improved the game for me.
And when I say islands, I feel like you knew what I meant. A planet full of nothing but islands exists, but no "oh here is an ocean and a singular island in it."
rokkerkory
Member
No to No Man's Sky
Bloodporne
Member
From the PC thread
Oh snap
Moon_frogger
Member
What does this even mean? Tedious and mediocre games are nothing new? Is that some sort of justification? Like, it's boring and shallow but I like it anyway? I dunno. I've only played about 5 hours. I stayed on that first planet for a long time before I got the ship running. Just exploring, seeing how far I can get. From my estimation the death penalty isn't compelling enough. There's almost zero risk reward. I can fit so little stuff on my inventory and none of it seems valuable so when I lose it I don't even feel like going back to my grave. If they could make a better risk reward system like souls or rogue likes this game could be better.
And also, you all have to admit that some sort of online interaction with other players would have saved this from becoming a dull grind fest.
Complicated
Banned
The PC version sounds like a dumpster fire. Total Biscuit tried to stream it, and rage quit because it ran so terribly and kept crashing. He compared it to Batman: Arkham Knight.
DrunkShogun
Member
Seems to be a game that won't win people over unless they know exactly what to expect and have interest at that point. Didn't appeal to me so I skipped but a friend bought it and he's enjoying it.