meanspartan
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Haven't gotten it yet, but it seems interesting enough to be worth getting despite the low scores.
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No Man's Sky Review Thread: The Scores Have Arrived (read OP)
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This game looks God awful, in both aesthetics and performance. The landscapes look like what you get when you buy a Slushie and ask for 'a mix'.
yeah I can empathize more with an argument that "it shouldn't be $60 because the game lacks all of these things, etc." but those arguments where its just "it's an indie game! shouldn't be $60!!" just baffle me
Insane. I don't really have any reason to not wait for a price drop and/or a slew of performance patches right now, doubt I'd even hit 60fps on my computer.
In the game's defense, this is a pretty dull planet.. there are far more interesting planets in my opinion.
There are reddit pages full of these same problems as well. So its not just his rig. Startup crashes, slow downs, hitches in the game... its a mess.
He is running it at 1080p and with AA mind you.
freenudemacusers
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so the framerate is better on ps4? probably a result of being coded to the metal on console vs all the operating system layers on windows.
The reason you're doing those chores is so that you can upgrade your equipment. The reason for upgrading your equipment is so that you can explore further, survive longer, defend yourself better, etc. The real issue is whether or not you find those reasons compelling. I totally, 100% understand why someone wouldn't.
Last night, I spent a lot of time hunting for Drop Pods so I could increase my exosuit's storage slots. I think I found three or four, but it felt great to be able to hold more inventory, or add an upgrade (like toxicity protection, or being able to stay underwater for much, much longer). I found a better multi-tool as well, and it had some great upgrades built into it already, and then I slotted more upgrades into it. Now my multi-tool mines faster, and I can blow the doors off of a building in one shot, meaning I don't have to fight with sentinels when I break into a facility to find new tech.
It's not that the game doesn't have reason for it's function, it's that the reasons for those functions may not be compelling for people, and that's a fair criticism. On the flip side, some people might find those reasons absolutely engaging and that's a fair assessment too. What's annoying is that people don't want to respect other people's opinions. It's one thing to shit on something (or gushingly praise something), just for the schadenfreude, which is a dick thing to do, and it's another to express why you don't like the thing you don't like, or why you like the thing you like. Saying it's "dogshit," or "OMG, the best thing ever!!!" isn't really useful for anybody. I like to read why people like or don't like something. I find that more informative than a single word or sentence descriptor, and definitely more informative than a review score. Your 5/10 or 9/10 means nothing to me. Why you feel the game deserves those scores is, in my opinion, worth more.
I personally have no desire to police what people do and don't enjoy. If I'm having a good time, I'm having a good time. If I'm not having a good time, I'll play another game where I am having a good time. It doesn't bother me that people aren't liking what I like.
I've mentioned it before, but I just can't get into Minecraft. I've played it for hours trying to find the "fun," but it's not there for me, so I dropped it. On the flip side, I've been playing No Man's Sky for about 10+ hours, and I love it. It's frustrating and imperfect, but I'm enjoying myself way more than I ever did in Minecraft. I also love Terraria. I own Starbound, but I haven't had the time to play it much, even before NMS released. I've owned it since it was in Early Access, and it was rough as fuck, but from the little I played of the released version, it has changed a LOT, and that seems like a good thing so far! My hope is that NMS continues to get updates like the Day 1 Patch, that improves quality of life and builds upon the core gameplay loop. Base building and owning a freighter coming in the 2nd update sound interesting. I'm sure there'll be further bug fixes and gameplay tweaks beyond that as well.
I really like the idea behind NMS, but...
. Don´t fall into the hype of a developer that still has to prove itself and only made a small (although good) downloadable game.
. Don´t fall into Sony BS hype.
. Sean Murray looks like a nice dude but his objective is to sell as many copies as possible of his product. That´s why he won´t talk about multiplayer and shit like that.
. Don´t say stupid shit like "this game can change gaming forever" and other things like that we saw in the preview thread for a game with vague informations from... Hello Games. They are not Nintendo from the 90s. Sean Murray isn´t Myiamoto in his prime to change gaming.
. Don´t fall into the hype of a developer that still has to prove itself and only made a small (although good) downloadable game.
. Don´t fall into Sony BS hype.
. Sean Murray looks like a nice dude but his objective is to sell as many copies as possible of his product. That´s why he won´t talk about multiplayer and shit like that.
. Don´t say stupid shit like "this game can change gaming forever" and other things like that we saw in the preview thread for a game with vague informations from... Hello Games. They are not Nintendo from the 90s. Sean Murray isn´t Myiamoto in his prime to change gaming.
Man, it's such a fucking bummer too. It looks like a fantastic podcast game, just explore around brainlessly while listening to whatever hilarious podcast has released their newest episode at the time.
Gotta stick to Just Cause 3 for my podcast needs for now.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
So, are we DDOSing all 7s and below, or 6s. 6 would lighten the load, but I'm not sure if it sends a strong enough message.
TheMan
Member
Having only played a few hours so far, I will agree that the shiny veneer is wearing off and the sameness of the environments (especially the fucking buildings) as well as the repetitive gameplay elements are wearing thin. I still think there's enormous potential here, but the game needed more time in the oven. Should have been a Christmas release.
Listening to game criticism by Total Biscuit is a waste of time.
thelatestmodel
Junior, please.
I completely disagree, I think it looks gorgeous and the landscapes are spectacular.
Probably explains why the reviews are all over the map, it's a very divisive game. I'm buying it for sure.
That it does. Mindless exploration. Just wait and grab the game when it drops price and its updated a whole bunch and more features go into the game.
For $60 bucks that is totally not worth it.
I think they're pretty rare though. I've been watching a lot of streams/videos and you seem to spend most of your time staring at boring planets or UI.
Sumio Mondo
Member
Looks like this generation continues on the quota of games that do not deliver on the hype.
Doug Heffernan
Member
Yikes!
And here i thought I could run this game on my laptop lol
I love this game but I can see where the negativity comes from. There's a lot of things that are baffling.
1) planets dont have biomes or regions, mountain ranges or rivers. They are star wars planets with one geological feature dominating the entire planet.
2) there are a lot of geological features missing. Volcanoes, sand, islands, etc. (Haven't seen more than a handful of planets but that's my impression.
3) no cities and stuff. No like "oh wow this place is super different than everytging I have experienced so far"
4) base building and larger ships (FTL style with systems you can purchase) should have been in the game from the get go.
But yeah, i still love it. It's a shame because I wish It was the game everyone hoped it would be. I'm sad that some people aren't enjoying it as much as I am, because I think much of it is truly wonderous.
1) planets dont have biomes or regions, mountain ranges or rivers. They are star wars planets with one geological feature dominating the entire planet.
2) there are a lot of geological features missing. Volcanoes, sand, islands, etc. (Haven't seen more than a handful of planets but that's my impression.
3) no cities and stuff. No like "oh wow this place is super different than everytging I have experienced so far"
4) base building and larger ships (FTL style with systems you can purchase) should have been in the game from the get go.
But yeah, i still love it. It's a shame because I wish It was the game everyone hoped it would be. I'm sad that some people aren't enjoying it as much as I am, because I think much of it is truly wonderous.
Dr_LucienSanchez
Banned
Ya, at the most he's ok for seeing how a PC game runs. And even there you have to deal with a whole lot of nonsense and hyperbole.
thelatestmodel
Junior, please.
No, the hype was that no-one knew what it was going to be like.
What's going on with the aesthetics of this game? The UI seems like a big rip off of Destiny. The robots look like they are ripped straight from Portal. The pickup crates look like they are ripped from Borderlands. Like I'm fine with developers taking inspirations from other games, but doing it this closely and blatantly just makes the game feel cheap. It reminds me of that game on Steam that got removed for ripping assets straight from other games. Obviously it's not as serious in this case, but it does ruin any uniqueness this game could've had aesthetically. It just comes off as cheap and out of place.
Ya, no. I'll save my money until its fixed or I just stop caring.
Fahzgoolin
Banned
Was easy to tell from the beginning. Just thinking through it logically, there is no way that some man made procedural algorithms with our limited tech could possibly match the variety and depth that a game like this would need to be a truly great game.
It's a novel concept and I'm glad it exists. It's very cool, but it most certainly isn't worth the $60 price tag. If it was $20 I might have dipped in. *shrug*
Ridiculous. It might be a waste of time to you, but he has a specific idea about how a game is analyzed. If you don't enjoy it or agree with it, that's fine.
It's a novel concept and I'm glad it exists. It's very cool, but it most certainly isn't worth the $60 price tag. If it was $20 I might have dipped in. *shrug*
Ridiculous. It might be a waste of time to you, but he has a specific idea about how a game is analyzed. If you don't enjoy it or agree with it, that's fine.
funroll-loops
Member
I'm suprised there wasn't more hostility from other reviewers with the delayed review copy shenanigans. Like, he's the only one that didn't just let them get away with it.
Are we doing this now? Holy fucking shit. And the "excuse" here is the exploration.
Why did i even come in this thread.
Kaji AF16
Member
Absolutely agree with this. Even the Sean Murray-Peter Molyneux comparisons are inconsistent, given that the latter had a legendary pedigree before transforming himself into a paradigmatic example of over-promising developer. The cult of personality towards Murray still surprises me.
I had never seen, in my 25+ years of gaming, such a hype for a game. Not even for Spore. There was undeniable creativity behind No Man´s Sky, but the expectations were impossible to be met; Sony (which, since it dominates the current generation, has been riding an almost impervious positive-image wave) and Hello Games obviously knew this but chose to (given the PS4 popularity and the monstruous hype for the game) still charge $60 for it and to be deliberately vague in the description of several key features. Now we almost have a virtual civil war between disappointed believers and "I-told-you-so" veterans / Xbox warriors.
It's especially funny to be playing Shiren the Wanderer as this goes down.
It's just eeeeven more evidence to me that you need to get your hands dirty and design a lot of interesting things for a game to be interesting. Shiren has randomly generated dungeon floors... full of incredibly considered and manually-tweaked things. It isn't "emergent gameplay", nah: Chunsoft thought these things out, and thoroughly. And the game is great because of it.
It's just eeeeven more evidence to me that you need to get your hands dirty and design a lot of interesting things for a game to be interesting. Shiren has randomly generated dungeon floors... full of incredibly considered and manually-tweaked things. It isn't "emergent gameplay", nah: Chunsoft thought these things out, and thoroughly. And the game is great because of it.
save yourself £40 and:
1. get a piece of paper
2. fold that piece of paper up several times along the length (4 segments should be fine)
3. pass the piece of paper around several of your friends/family and ask them to draw a part of any animal from head to feet, don't peek!
4. when everyone has had a go unfold the paper
congratulations you've now experienced No Man's Sky's amazing procedural animal creation system for the price of a piece of paper!
Hello? This is Hailun!
Member
Spore all over again.
"Reviews... based on facts... expectations."
Reviews are mostly opinion, rarely ever do they delve into nothing but hard facts.
GillianSeed79
Member
Have played a few hours of the PS4 version so far and so far I like it. It's definitely ambitious, but seems more like a style over substance game. I love the 70's sci-fi book atmosphere the game conveys and the exploration, but the core gameplay loop of mine resources to craft into game-advancing components isn't that compelling and can see that getting old after awhile. I'll probably just critical path to the center of the universe, which supposedly takes 30 to 40 hours? and call it a day. Now, if you going to be playing this for 300 plus hours/forever, I can see how you would be disappointed.
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
From the PC performance thread in case anyone hasn't seen it.
Turn off in-game vsync.
Set the framerate cap to max.
Run in borderless window mode.
People have been saying that doing those things fixes framerate issues and hitching.
Turn off in-game vsync.
Set the framerate cap to max.
Run in borderless window mode.
People have been saying that doing those things fixes framerate issues and hitching.
OmegaDL50
Member
What did NMS over promise on.
As far as I'm aware we recieved everything we were supposed to get.
What are these other promises of things that did not end up in the finished product?
I have no issue with people being disappointed with the game. It's reasonable that this game may not be for everyone. It's something entirely else to claim the developers made grandiose marketing claims and we only ever recieved what was always on offer.
Beyond the ambiguity of the online and possible multiplayer, which even still Sean Murray said it was unlikely. There isn't anything else that was claimed for this game to have that isn't here in some sort of fashion at least.
toastyToast
Member
Saw this coming. The expectations were absurd
Incendiary
Banned
To be fair, a lot of the hype from this game was created by the fans who let their imaginations run wild with what they'd be able to do instead of thinking about what's actually feasible.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Are you referring to the PC version that he was responding to?
Collateral22
Member
Decent enough. 8/10 game for me. Has a few niggles and crashes and some design choices I don't agree with but other than that it's great. Play it for yourself before deciding.
Btw this guy seems to be getting around 80fps no drops on his rig. SLI support is probably the issue https://www.twitch.tv/lirik
Btw this guy seems to be getting around 80fps no drops on his rig. SLI support is probably the issue https://www.twitch.tv/lirik
So, from thin air? Because none of the above statements were to be expected in the game.
1.- Was revealed a looong time ago.
2.- Islands, there are plenty depending on the Planet. Volcanoes were never confirmed (IIRC)
3.- Never confirmed. They even revealed the existence of aliens around 2 months ago.
4.- Crafting was never a feature. They wanted you to explore, not stand on a planet. However, this may change with coming updates.
So basically, you wanted a game that was not real.
hydrophilic attack
Member
Reviews don't look good