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If you look at the Japanese and US sales of the three next-gen home consoles, the split is pretty interesting at this point...

At the moment, it's...
360: 45.30%
Wii: 37.91%
PS3: 16.79%

The Wii's managed to take 37% after just half a year on the market. I sure do wish we had some good European numbers so we could get an accurate worldwide gauge of where things stand.

 

[Tabris]

You know you wouldnt be saying that if the PS3 didnt bomb.

This thread wouldn't be as big if the PS3 didn't bomb. Guaranteed.

You can see it in the pro-Sony media create versus the pro-Nintendo media create, the one's where Nintendo is doing well are 5x larger. We used to have media create threads that would go to the 2nd or 3rd page before the DS, now it's a 20-page affair.

 

[Lord Helmet]

OMG @ Schiavo pic. Ah well. I'm going to hell. :lol

 

[Metalmurphy]

Am i the only one who thinks people are overreacting? oO

Alot can change you know

 

[Oblivion]

no, for reals, that cracked my ass up

Okay, sorry hard to tell sometimes.

 

[BboyDubC]

GBA to PS3

Is this real? Is the baby ok? Is there some kind of story around this?

 

[chibcicylist]

PS3 weekly sales:

Jan 48.7k
Feb 31.8k
Mar 26.0k
Apr 20.5k

Wow, it could potentially sell at less than 14k a week, for a grand total of 56k for the whole month.

 

[Sharp]

The sad thing is this thread will be more popular than the awesome Gamer's day one. Certain people (you know who you are i.e. 90% of the people in this thread) prefer bad news about Sony than good news.

I don't think any NPD thread has gotten near that size, and fortunately I doubt this will be the exception.

 

[pgtl_10]

Is anyone surprise that Nintendo has found a way out of their old catch 21 predictment:

Create something new Nintendo fans will hate you!. Continue with the old the rest of the gaming world will ignor you.

Nintendo has been niche for quite some time and it looks like Nintendo has finally managed to appeal to Nintendo fans and the rest of the gaming world.

 

[DevelopmentArrested]

My god, could you imagine the 360's all keeping current price but getting bundled with GTA4 for free for the holidays? Sony would be destroyed.

Yeah... that's never happening.

 

[speculawyer]

is that real?

I believe so. As the father of a daughter that age, it freaks me out everytime I see it. But I've seen a slightly longer version and the kid looks like he/she is starting to get up, so I think the kid was OK.

 

[Jahaya]

Not in the 360's case

Cant argue with that. :lol

To the people who said 360 and PS3 are too expensive, have you ever thought that Wii and DS are overpriced for the hardware built inside? If this keeps up, MS and Sony have no motivation to make the best hardware that can last 5-6 years. We are at the losing end, who knows if there will be a Wii HD 3 years down the line. It is about a learned perspective man.

 

[Speevy]

360 has been very good to 3rd parties so far, i dont think they'll be that quick to drop it.

Who are they going to drop it for?

 

[koam]

Here's some help for Sony's PR team.

PSP sales for the month of April had an incredible surge in sales versus March sending them ahead of Microsoft's Xbox 360.

Sales of the PS3 dropped slightly due to the decommissioning of the 20GB version but still managed to place only 2000 units behinds Nintendo highly successful handheld.

PS2 was a mammoth even after all these years and easily surpassed the Xbox 360.

 

[TheRipDizz]

What this shows me is that Nintendo's arguments about lapsed gamers and the irrelevance of graphics are spot on. The 360's userbase is superconcentrated with hardcore gamers, as we're seeing with the high software sales, but lapsed and casual gamers simply don't care about the upgrade in graphics or "new" versions of traditional software, regardless of the quality. These people are either buying the DS or Wii, or are choosing to stick with their PS2s indefinitely.

Dark days coming for rigid, hardcore gamers and graphic whores.

Whatever. Nintendo deffinatly spotted something in that trend, but it's not so clear cut as you see it. $480 and $600 I'm sure are not affecting these numbers any. Oh wait, scratch that. It's probably the the single biggest characteristic influencing all three offerings. :|

 

[Kifimbo]

Alot can change you know

Yeah. Like on what console companies will put their games on...

 

[JavyOO7]

I would imagine Rockstar might prevent MS and Sony from bundling GTAIV on their systems for free? I dunno. If I were MS I'd bundle Halo 3 for Christmas...

 

[ghst]

unless someone else moves first they won't price drop before halo 3 or gta 4 have come out. get as many people to buy the system at full price that wants it for either or both of those games before dropping the price.

heck, they may go the route of keeping the price $400 but throwing in halo 3 or gta 4 for a bit before the price drop.

that is, unless sony moves first.

How about if the ONLY way to buy Halo 3 is a pack in?

 

[VultureDude]

Wii Sales (Japan / U.S.):

March: 291K / 259K
April: 358K / 360K

Looks like Nintendo is shipping about the same to both territories.

so, based on Japan/NA(including canada)/PAL numbers, Nintendo is selling near 1 million a month?

 

[Flo_Evans]

/pours out a little liquor for the PS3...

Stringer must be chomping at the bit. I think some heads are gonna roll!

p.s. I still love my PS3, dreamcast, and neogeo pocket! (and GC! :lol )

 

[The Faceless Master]

Is this real? Is the baby ok? Is there some kind of story around this?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=156175

 

[jetjevons]

The sad thing is this thread will be more popular than the awesome Gamer's day one. Certain people (you know who you are i.e. 90% of the people in this thread) prefer bad news about Sony than good news.

No, the really sad thing is all the great games Sony showed at gameday don't really matter to the mainstream.

 

[chibcicylist]

Is this real? Is the baby ok? Is there some kind of story around this?

It's real.

 

[marc^o^]

If Nintendo manages to release Mario Galaxy, Metroïd, Smah Bros, Wii Music, Wii Health pack, new Wii colors and a DS channel by the end of this year (highly plausible), then PS3 and x360 won't have any chance to compete with Wii numbers, whatever their price drops and killer apps.

 

[Chiggs]

Is this real? Is the baby ok? Is there some kind of story around this?

It's a Havok tech demo.

 

[Ashodin]

OLDD and

This is market rejection.

Quote of the thread. This is exactly what is happening in America. HD gaming simply is not ready for the masses yet. The Wii provides innovative gameplay plus 480p resolution so while it's not exactly beautiful, it's good enough for most everyone.

Handhelds continue to boom as they are easier than consoles to maintain during other activities - you can easily just hibernate your PSP or DS and get onto the computer and play WoW, or resume your DS game while you're in transit along with family to a family dinner, then pick up later that night in your bed. Plus Nintendo's marketing appeal to everyone boosts the numbers wider than hardcore purchases like 360 and PS3 allow.

This is the future, folks. And Nintendo saw it first.

 

[1-D_FTW]

That's so wrong. And yet... :lol :lol :lol

 

[Mau ®]

I may be one of the few but even with the PS3 numbers, I am strangely confident that everything will just fine! better than fine actually!

 

[Mrbob]

Price drop time Sony!

No, the really sad thing is all the great games Sony showed at gameday don't really matter to the mainstream.

I dunno about that. I don't think they'll care about these games at $599, but at $399 would be interested.

 

[Leonsito]

How about if the ONLY way to buy Halo 3 is a pack in?

6 million people would be very angry then.

 

[Tabris]

No, the really sad thing is all the great games Sony showed at gameday don't really matter to the mainstream.

God of War? SOCOM? Ratchet & Clank? They don't matter? Go google up the sales of the previous titles in those series.

 

[Evlar]

I may be one of the few but even with the PS3 numbers, I am strangely confident that everything will just fine! better than fine actually!

First step in the grieving process is...

 

[Geezer]

A.360/PS3=Sophisticated weaponry
B.Wii=Broken waterpistol loaded with piss

Who would prefer option b? DOES. NOT. COMPUTE.

 

[laserbeam]

God of War? SOCOM? Ratchet & Clank? They don't matter? Go google up the sales of the previous titles in those series.

Lets avoid the sales number thing because based on Sonys own numbers all those titles sold to probably 1-4% of PS2 owners. thats hardly mainstream

 

[mj1108]

Wow....about what I thought for the DS and Wii.... PS3 is much lower than I thought.

It's the Wiipocalypse.

 

[Owzers]

The sad thing is this thread will be more popular than the awesome Gameday one. Certain people (you know who you are i.e. 90% of the people in this thread) prefer bad news about Sony than good news.

Uncharted looks great. $600. Warhawk looks fun. $600. Ratchet and Clank looks wowmazing. $600. Even with a $100 price drop it's still too much money. It's hard to get genuinely excited for games that you know you won't buy upon release because the system is too much money. If there were a $400 20GB version coming out this fall, i'd reconsider getting a PS3 this year, right now it's almost out of the question.

 

[Haunted]

If you look at the Japanese and US sales of the three next-gen home consoles, the split is pretty interesting at this point...

At the moment, it's...
360: 45.30%
Wii: 37.91%
PS3: 16.79%

The Wii's managed to take 37% after just half a year on the market. I sure do wish we had some good European numbers so we could get an accurate worldwide gauge of where things stand.

Pretty interesting stuff.

That year head start was really important for the 360, especially because of the solid install base it has now, but Nintendo running away with more marketshare month after month .... + after seeing those numbers, Sony simply has to react soon-ish if they want to have any chance to get second place this gen (talking US).


Man, I love how the industry is so exciting these days.

A.360/PS3=Sophisticated weaponry
B.Wii=Broken waterpistol loaded with piss

Who would prefer option b? DOES. NOT. COMPUTE.

 

[mabuza]

anyway i'm sure the sales of the psp and the profit from that could at least cover some of the losses.

 

[Jahaya]

Whatever. Nintendo deffinatly spotted something in that trend, but it's not so clear cut as you see it. $480 and $600 I'm sure are not affecting these numbers any. Oh wait, scratch that. It's probably the the single biggest characteristic influencing all three offerings. :|

They spotted how to make hardware, costing only a hundred sell for $200 instead of selling a $500 hardware for $300, to the trend surfing soccer mums and teenagers.

 

[jetjevons]

God of War? SOCOM? Ratchet & Clank? They don't matter? Go google up the sales of the previous titles in those series.

Ratchet & Clank and Socom are great but are they system sellers?

Also did I miss something about GoW on PS3? If so I stand corrected.

 

[Speevy]

God of War? SOCOM? Ratchet & Clank? They don't matter? Go google up the sales of the previous titles in those series.

Probably Uncharted, Lair, and Heavenly Sword are a bit too "high brow" for the mainstream, but they still look among the top of the industry.

 

[TheRipDizz]

If you look at the Japanese and US sales of the three next-gen home consoles, the split is pretty interesting at this point...

At the moment, it's...
360: 45.30%
Wii: 37.91%
PS3: 16.79%

The Wii's managed to take 37% after just half a year on the market. I sure do wish we had some good European numbers so we could get an accurate worldwide gauge of where things stand.

It'd probably put it more in 360's favor no? Japan is a pretty lopsided affair adding heavily to the Wii's favor. A few posts back show the Wii hasn't even outsold the 360 since it's been on the market in the US.

 

[C4Lukins]

Really? Cause I was watching a developer interview for a certain high profile action-"adventure" game and the developer casually states there's not gonna be many puzzles. A couple light puzzles. It's mainly an arcade action game that emulates the look of an action-adventure movie. But actual adventuring? Gameplay? Why. Put em' on a ridgid path with gorgeous graphics and hope nobody notices traditional gameplay is being rapidly eroded. The big budget games are assaulting traditional gamers as much/if not more than Nintendo.

You have to tell me exactly what you are referring to for me to comment on this one.

 

[Chiggs]

God of War? SOCOM? Ratchet & Clank? They don't matter? Go google up the sales of the previous titles in those series.

I posted it before, but I'm saying it again: Even if Lair, Ratchet and Clank, Uncharted and Heavenly Sword were all released in the same month, we'd be lucky to see PS3 sales over 250k. Of course, this is with the $600.00 price tag factored in. Repeat ad nauseum, but a significant price drop would *gasp* drive significant sales.

 

[Wyndstryker]

 

[xaosslug]

i think what everyone phails to realize is that so long as PS2 continues to sell the way it does, I doubt 3d parties will be so quick to abandon PS3 because the potential that it could follow suit is always gonna be there.

Spoiler

/spin

lol

 

[Frank the Great]

i seriously cant wait for the sony spin.

 

[Deku]

Star Wars analogies are so apt in this thread.

 

[Tabris]

Ratchet & Clank and Socom are great but are they system sellers?

Also did I miss something about GoW on PS3? If so I stand corrected.

Ratchet & Clank and SOCOM sold millions each worldwide. Rachet and Jax were the best selling platform games on the PS2.

 

[Geezer]

Man, I love how the industry is so exciting these days.

It's not exciting, the Wii has this gen. Disappointing, but true