Either way, I have a gut feeling this is a cboat 2.0, when he said the XB1 won by 13k...
13k... 13k!?
It was 7-10k!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
jks
Either way, I have a gut feeling this is a cboat 2.0, when he said the XB1 won by 13k...
Well good thing they had more options than multiplats am i right?
I guess we are talking first party exclusives, which in that case guess you're sort of right because sony only had three this holiday season.There's stuff to play from during previous months definitely. Smaller digital titles release all months during the year too. I don't think a person has to care about sales to want a lineup that has "big" titles outside of just the usual multiplats though (which was my point).
So much thisThat criticism doesn't seem too genuine. The PS4 has had a large number of exclusive games this year. I don't see why it matters when they're released. PS4 owners or prospective buyers still get to play them. The complaint about Xbox was that Microsoft completely coasted on a few core franchises and stopped innovating, not that they didn't release core, exclusive games during a three month window and then everything was peachy outside of that. Is that really true of Sony?
I thought Xbox 360 received criticism for a weak 1st party lineup all year long rather than just the holiday seasons.
Once Mattrick's Kinect vision took over, the exclusives on 360 dried up. Or am I not remembering last gen correctly?
All signs point to October being a coin toss.
Uncharted bundle ahead of Halo bundle on Amazon for the month of October. Abdiel weighing in that PS4 was selling more in Oct. MS PR silent on hardware sales other than some deceptive spin. This all points to possible/likely PS4 win by a small margin
Dragon Quest Heroes came out last month. The Uncharted Collection came out last month as well. It isn't just smaller digital titles.There's stuff to play from during previous months definitely. Smaller digital titles release all months during the year too. I don't think a person has to care about sales to want a lineup that has "big" titles outside of just the usual multiplats though (which was my point).
I was going to avoid a list but it's much more than that even and if we go buy what greenburg did and started this holiday off in august(just to include gears remaster amd rare replay) u get a while bunch moreDragon Quest Heroes came out last month. The Uncharted Collection came out last month as well. It isn't just smaller digital titles.
That criticism doesn't seem too genuine. The PS4 has had a large number of exclusive games this year. I don't see why it matters when they're released. PS4 owners or prospective buyers still get to play them. The complaint about Xbox was that Microsoft completely coasted on a few core franchises and stopped innovating, not that they didn't release core, exclusive games during a three month window and then everything was peachy outside of that. Is that really true of Sony?
Dragon Quest Heroes came out last month. The Uncharted Collection came out last month as well. It isn't just smaller digital titles.
Dragon Quest Heroes came out last month. The Uncharted Collection came out last month as well. It isn't just smaller digital titles.
If halo is not the flagship game it once was, what will be the new one?
The 360 had a ton of games that couldn't be found on any other console that gen after Kinect's launch, it's just that many that made these complaints about heavily focusing on third party didn't care about those titles due to them being Kinect titles, "cheap digital titles", or entries in series that already had titles during the gen (Forza, Halo, Gears, Fable as you alluded to).
I'll be damned.I don't think the criticism was necessarily warranted, but still the difference in this case vs. that case, I think some would argue, is that Microsoft started playing it very safe as a first party when Sony did anything but. Through the end of the gen, Microsoft's output became extremely conservative whereas Sony was putting out games like Puppeteer, Beyond: Two Souls, Starhawk, etc. These aren't even good games, but they're most likely not super cheap or safe games.
I personally don't give a crap. And honestly the market does not either, obviously. But I don't think the knock on Sony this gen (or the KNACK ON SONY LOL) is that comparable.
edit: Also you people are crazy. Halo is still a flagship. It's massive. Gears will be very big, at least on par with Uncharted (well maybe not as much due to a smaller userbase). Microsoft IS diversifying their lineup too, so who knows, maybe Recore will be the next big thing.
You take that back right now! Sony i need a puppeteer ps4 remasterI don't think the criticism was necessarily warranted, but still the difference in this case vs. that case, I think some would argue, is that Microsoft started playing it very safe as a first party when Sony did anything but. Through the end of the gen, Microsoft's output became extremely conservative whereas Sony was putting out games like Puppeteer, Beyond: Two Souls, Starhawk, etc. These aren't even necessarily good games, but they're most likely not super cheap or safe games.
I personally don't give a crap. And honestly the market does not either, obviously. But I don't think the knock on Sony this gen (or the KNACK ON SONY LOL) is that comparable.
edit: Also you people are crazy. Halo is still a flagship. It's massive. Gears will be very big, at least on par with Uncharted (well maybe not as much due to a smaller userbase). Microsoft IS diversifying their lineup too, so who knows, maybe Recore will be the next big thing.
I don't think the criticism was necessarily warranted, but still the difference in this case vs. that case, I think some would argue, is that Microsoft started playing it very safe as a first party when Sony did anything but. Through the end of the gen, Microsoft's output became extremely conservative whereas Sony was putting out games like Puppeteer, Beyond: Two Souls, Starhawk, etc. These aren't even necessarily good games, but they're most likely not super cheap or safe games.
I personally don't give a crap. And honestly the market does not either, obviously. But I don't think the knock on Sony this gen (or the KNACK ON SONY LOL) is that comparable.
edit: Also you people are crazy. Halo is still a flagship. It's massive. Gears will be very big, at least on par with Uncharted (well maybe not as much due to a smaller userbase). Microsoft IS diversifying their lineup too, so who knows, maybe Recore will be the next big thing.
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1.0 out of 5 starsNot a big enough title
ByConnor333on October 13, 2015
Platform: PlayStation 4
This is October and I'm mad that games like this are filling up store shelves what a corrupt industry Where's my call of duty or something go Patriots NFL.
I think ms is aware that Halo is no longer a cultural phenomenon. It is still a top tier fps franchise though and one of the crown jewels of their gaming IP. Sony has nothing in that vital space, absolutely nothing; so it is very important and will play a big role in getting next gen off to a good start. As such, I believe Spence when he says they are 'happy'.
I never said it was. I mentioned digital titles releasing all year because them alone makes the complaint not true. Again, I'm not the one criticizing PS4's lineup. I'm just saying that third party game deals and advertising will make complaints of this nature come up from people who couldn't care less about console sales.
I am essentially disputing the bold. There is more than multiplats. If the far bigger focus on third party titles masks that, then so be it. However, it is disingenuous to make the claim the PS4 is only getting multiplats or that the situation with the X360 and PS4 is the same.I doubt the majority of those people care about sales and simply want more than just mostly yearly third party games (that I'm guessing they don't care much about) to play.
The Xbox 360 got criticism for doing the same during previous Holiday seasons last gen so PS fans (as well as people who moved over to PS4 after owning a 360) probably want to have more than just a lineup of multiplats this time of year.
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I don't think the criticism was necessarily warranted, but still the difference in this case vs. that case, I think some would argue, is that Microsoft started playing it very safe as a first party when Sony did anything but. Through the end of the gen, Microsoft's output became extremely conservative whereas Sony was putting out games like Puppeteer, Beyond: Two Souls, Starhawk, etc. These aren't even necessarily good games, but they're most likely not super cheap or safe games.
I personally don't give a crap. And honestly the market does not either, obviously.
edit: Also you people are crazy. Halo is still a flagship. It's massive. Gears will be very big, at least on par with Uncharted (well maybe not as much due to a smaller userbase). Microsoft IS diversifying their lineup too, so who knows, maybe Recore will be the next big thing.
I am essentially disputing the bold. There is more than multiplats. If the far bigger focus on third party titles masks that, then so be it. However, it is disingenuous to make the claim the PS4 is only getting multiplats or that the situation with the X360 and PS4 is the same.
Even TLoU was taking a chance, a new IP when they had Uncharted was ballsy. I didn't see Bungie or Turn 10 try anything new last gen.
MS will edge out in Oct, it will be a technical win and not a very satisfying one. Who would ever think a Halo month would be close?
I don't think it's fair to complain that Turn 10 only got to make Forza. That's basically what they do. It is an extremely specialized studio.
Well, I don't think it was about having big games in general for the X360. It was about not having diverse franchises beyond those core titles.You put me saying "this time of year" in bold. The 360 had Halos, Forzas, and Gears, during Holdiays seasons where they got that criticism. You mentioned the Uncharted collection that was just released a few weeks ago but it still didn't stop some people from wanting more on their PS4.
My point was simply that third party deals during the Holiday season seem to always cause these feelings regardless.
Cmon now.
Square agreed to the deal, Square ran the numbers, Square got the check.
On the bright side, Uncharted 5 (or a spin off) is not shipping any time soon AND Sony finding an adequate developer will be a monumental task. Still think it will be SSM in the end. No one else to trust.
The thing that's tough about this is due to us not knowing the breakdown of money from Microsoft's statement...
The WiiU will take October, you fools.
The WiiU will take October, you fools.
How about Gran Turismo? It was cultural phenomenon ( especially GT3 ). What is Halo for FPS on consoles, that's a Gran Turismo for racing on consoles. Well, both franchise now have decline in sales.
In Gran Turismo's case, that won't be known until a proper PS4 sequel releases. GT6 launched at a rather peculiar time, a releasse of a new PlayStation that it would not be on. Yet, it still managed to shell out 5 million copies. A PS4 release is sure to top that without a hitch.
I'm still thinking MS somehow sold 500k XboxOne.
We'll find out in 5 more days!
That number was world wide, so a few thousand per country adds up to certain part of that revenue. And who knows what they count when they say hardware.As I said in my previous post, it's possible if the Halo 5 bundle sales are covering up a lower Halo game launch. I'm still not sure what to predict yet for number of consoles sold in October (was far more confident before Microsoft's statement).
There's stuff to play from during previous months definitely. Smaller digital titles release all months during the year too. I don't think a person has to care about sales to want a lineup that has "big" titles outside of just the usual multiplats though (which was my point).
I hope you're going to PSX again this year so you can present a follow up question to Jan-Bart van Beek
'So that Horizon, huh?'
Gran Turismo not having much competition in its genre (like Halo does) will definitely help it too.
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Gran Turismo not having much competition in its genre (like Halo does) will definitely help it too.
What are you talking about? With uncharted, dragon quest, until,dawn, tearaway,... were as many or more exclusives on ps4 then xbox one this year. Not all first party, but that doesn't matter.
Actually, it is second. Super Mario 3D World edges it out ever so slightly.Personally, I think Bloodborne, Until Dawn, Uncharted, and Tearaway make this an entirely respectable year for exclusives. Very surprised by some of the hate. Bloodborne alone is the highest rated exclusive of this Gen.
That doesn't help Forza though. The brand is just big (bigger than Halo in sales btw, which is rather impressive considering we're talking about a sim racer), and it would sell well regardless.
What are you talking about? With uncharted, dragon quest, until,dawn, tearaway,... were as many or more exclusives on ps4 then xbox one this year. Not all first party, but that doesn't matter.