elrechazado
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someone was wearing Renly's armor and leading the troops into battle. Highlight the spoiler below if you want to find out who it was
it was loras's older brother whose name escapes me right now
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infiniteloop
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makes sense, thanks!
That was
Garlan Tyrell (Loras' bro) dressed up in Renly's armor. He's apparently one of the best swords in the series and slew countless men during the battle, emboldening allies and scaring enemies.
He's very likable, even after only like a chapter and a half of introduction.
elrechazado
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Davos one of the best human beings in the series.
elrechazado
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w....wh...at??
I just finished AFFC so I spent some time reading this thread since I don't have ADWD yet (I avoided spoilers for that book from this thread).
Just something that is bothering me about a lot of posters. I've seen countless posters write (ASOS)
. The posters then proceed to say that it was a surprise or that they predicted it or that they were glad they avoided spoilers for the book. All that is fine so far, but...
What bothers me is this event wasn't referred to as
until AFFC as far as I know. So if these people are saying they just read it then they shouldn't know it is called that. Either I missed something or a lot of people are reading spoilers and then acting like it was still a surprise.
Just something that is bothering me about a lot of posters. I've seen countless posters write (ASOS)
"I just read the Red Wedding and it was shocking/awesome/whatever!"
What bothers me is this event wasn't referred to as
The Red Wedding
(series)
Rickon = useless. Pycelle = a joke. Walder = a horrible, horrible human being. Balon = the guy who ruined everything for the North. Edmure = worst tactician on Robb's side, ruined Robb's plans to crush Tywin's army, indirectly ruined Stannis's attack on King's Landing.
Merret Frey refers to it by that name in the ASOS epilogue. But if the poster literally meant they just read the chapter then yeah, no way to know the name that soon unless they were spoiled about it somehow.
Haha yep, I reread your post and added more to my reply but I wasn't quick enough.
That's not the case.
Excerpt from a Davos chapter about 2/3rds of the way through ASOS:
This is three chapters after the event in question.
Excerpt from a Davos chapter about 2/3rds of the way through ASOS:
For a moment it seemed as though the king had not heard. Stannis showed no pleasure at the news, no anger, no disbelief, not even relief. He stared at his Painted Table with teeth clenched hard. “You are certain?” he asked.
“I am not seeing the body, no, Your Kingliness,” said Salladhor Saan. “Yet in the city, the lions prance and dance. The Red Wedding, the smallfolk are calling it. They swear Lord Frey had the boy’s head hacked off, sewed the head of his direwolf in its place, and nailed a crown about his ears. His lady mother was slain as well, and thrown naked in the river.”
“I am not seeing the body, no, Your Kingliness,” said Salladhor Saan. “Yet in the city, the lions prance and dance. The Red Wedding, the smallfolk are calling it. They swear Lord Frey had the boy’s head hacked off, sewed the head of his direwolf in its place, and nailed a crown about his ears. His lady mother was slain as well, and thrown naked in the river.”
This is three chapters after the event in question.
Ah thanks for pointing that, I couldn't recall if other characters used the name sooner in the third book. I thought
about the event but turns out he didn't. Totally forgot to check the moment where
.
Tyrion said it while talking with Tywin
Stannis was informed
Blackfish can go fuck himself.
Davos is one of the three or four characters in the series that I genuinely like and wish the best for.
BertramCooper
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Daario is the worst character in the series.
By far.
By far.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
Nah top 5 worst characters:
These cover the entire series so far
5. Dany - maybe an exaggeration but ADWD made me hate her so much
4. Any Frey
3. Damphair
2. Daario
1. Darkstar
4. Any Frey
3. Damphair
2. Daario
1. Darkstar
Top 5 Best Characters, again this covers the entire series
5. Jaime
4. Littlefinger - he's played everyone, of course he's probably going to get got by Sansa in the end)
3. Tyrion (was at #1 until ADWD)
2. Jon (was lower but ADWD raised him up, he had the best chapter in the book)
1. Arya
4. Littlefinger - he's played everyone, of course he's probably going to get got by Sansa in the end)
3. Tyrion (was at #1 until ADWD)
2. Jon (was lower but ADWD raised him up, he had the best chapter in the book)
1. Arya
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
He is of the night, so he's probably a vampire too. So rad.
Fitting actually.
infiniteloop
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Should've read the whole book, just got to part that explains it.
bengraven
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Varys earned his place as one of my favorite characters after several thousand pages.
That said...(ADWD spoiler)
He DID kill one of my favorite C-level characters: Kevan Lannister.
BenjaminBirdie
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54% Feast For Crows!!
So I haven't checked in for a while,
And that's that!
So I haven't checked in for a while,
mostly because nothing totally crazy has happened. I've really enjoyed the Westeros Team Up though. Arya & Sam! "Illin" Ilyn & Jamie!
Cersei just had the series' requisite Cerebus scene with the new High Septon (shit was Church & State and Women and Minds all ROLLED INTO ONE)
Cersei just had the series' requisite Cerebus scene with the new High Septon (shit was Church & State and Women and Minds all ROLLED INTO ONE)
And that's that!
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
ADWD Spoilers
I was saddened when I started reading the epilogue and found out Kevan was the POV.
A minor thing: I'd like a small change to the thread title, mostly adding some sort of "TAGGED SPOILERS DISCUSSION" disclaimer.
Also, (ADWD/future books spoiler or speculation)
That's just a stupid dream, though, and I don't think it'll happen :lol
Also, (ADWD/future books spoiler or speculation)
I'd like Bowen Marsh as the prologue POV character for TWOW, especially after et-tu-bruting Jon. It'd be nice to know what he thinks about it, if the guilt's overwhelming, etc... and, also, because of the commotion the event has surely caused. I imagine there would be lots of NW fighting wildlings and maybe, some loyal NW fighting hte traitors. Dunno.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
You can see into the future!?!?!
ADWD/Future books speculation
that's what I was thinking, heh. That or Giantsbane.
BenjaminBirdie
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Fifty...like...seven% FoC:
WHOA
Didn't finish that chapter yet though.
WHOA
Victarion like a MOTHERFUCKER!!!
Didn't finish that chapter yet though.
love Vicky, can't wait to read his chapters in adwd
reggieandTFE
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Why do people hate Darkstar? I read the entire series in a rush over the summer and felt his character was minor and didn't affect me either way.
Quentyn Martell was much more annoying to me.
Basileus777
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I think people felt like the author was trying too hard to make him seem like a badass, but he just came off as a lame dude
who cut a girl's face.
BenjaminBirdie
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The problem with ADWD steams from a horrible editing, IMHO, which goes far beyond the now infamous decision of dividing the POVs between different sides of the narrow sea. It has some really good chapters on it (some of them can rank among the best of the series), but it was poorly put together.
Several arcs which badly needed a conclussion in this book were left out like
while several filler chapters were included for no reason, for they did not advance the plot one bit
, not to mention that there are some chapters that clearly belonged to AFFC, period, like
.
Which is a pity, because as I have said before, ADWD has some really good pieces of literature on it, they just feel off when trying to work together. While I am not in the "the old man is loosing it" boat since by the end of the book you can see where everything is going and some twists that were planned with tomes of anticipation (Lost, this is not) I really hope that Martin takes a different editor next time.
Several arcs which badly needed a conclussion in this book were left out like
the whole Stannis northern offensive or how after so much Meerense - knot cut touting it was left off without a decisive conclussion
how many chapters do we need in order to get that Daenerys sucks bollocks as a ruler? one was more than enough
Cersei's walk of shame
Which is a pity, because as I have said before, ADWD has some really good pieces of literature on it, they just feel off when trying to work together. While I am not in the "the old man is loosing it" boat since by the end of the book you can see where everything is going and some twists that were planned with tomes of anticipation (Lost, this is not) I really hope that Martin takes a different editor next time.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
ADWD Spoilers
All of the stuff in the north was great. Jon maybe could have used a couple less chapters though. Still he has my favorite chapter in the book where does away with Janos Slynt's head. Theon's story was great. And loved the Davos and Bran chapters, but we needed more from them, especially Davos. I wanted to see his journey on Skagos and thought it would be there considering his last chapter is before the halfway mark in the book (if I recall correctly.)
The stuff on Essos, which I'm too lazy to go into, did nothing for me for the most part.
The stuff on Essos, which I'm too lazy to go into, did nothing for me for the most part.
BruceLeeRoy
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[ASoS]
Stannis riding down the wildlings....friggen bad ass
thestopsign
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Yes, yes it was.
BruceLeeRoy
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[ASoS]
Seeing Rob in the show is so depressing. I loved that guy a lot. I'm going to have to get very drunk the night I watch the red wedding.
Seriously. Every scene in the show where he's hopeful throws my mind to that part of ASOS. Wish I could delete it from my mind while I watch.
I'm kind of a masochist (ASOS SPOILERS!!!)
I want them to do the RW as bloody and heartbreaking as possible... on the other hand, I think I'm developing a man-crush on Richard Madden and I'm liking TV-Catelyn a bit more than book-Catelyn, so I know I'm gonna be devastated by the time it happens. But I want it to be as foreboding and oppresive and soul-crushing as it was in the book. Argh.
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
[ASoS]Just finished it...
HOLY SHIT. Robb Dies, Catelyn Dies, Jaime looses his hand, Joffrey Dies, Petyr saves Sansa, Stannis stops the Wildlings, Tysha wasn't a whore, Tyrion kills Tywin, Jon is Lord Commander, Petyr and Lysa plotted Jons death and started the war, Petyr kills Lysa.....CATELYN IS A RING WRAITH OF VENGEANCE!!! HOOOOLLLLLY SHIIIIITTTTT!
BruceLeeRoy
Banned
Are they really slow?
Yup, compared to the first three.
Feast for Crows is very good for what it is.
DwD needed more time in the editing room but has the some of the best character arcs in the series.
But who are you, the proud lord said, that I should bow so low?
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