She doesn't want to have little fights with her aunt in the party, she never did. I don't see her coming back unless her aunt is impeached within the party.
I despise her ideas and her family but for once that doesn't seen driven by strategy.
From what the media reported she has a small daughter to take care off and is in the midst of a divorce.
I don't think her retiring is a strategy, her grandfather the infamous negationist already blasted her for it.
That guy is responsible for her going into politics in the 1st place.
So many mentions of Valls in the press today, each one making him looks worse than the last: Delevoye declaring that he doesn't meet the criterias necessary to be eligible for EM, the PS engaging a possible exclusion procedure, the desperate phone call to Delevoye ("Je clique et ça ne marche pas" ), Baroin coming to his rescue.
Everything is glorious. This is making me so, so incredibly happy.
So, on the same day Benoît Hamon announces he will be launching a political movement after the elections while Anne Hidalgo, Martine Aubry and Christiane Taubira announce their own political movement.
Poor Hamon can't catch a break (and I guess the PS is six feet under now).
So, on the same day Benoît Hamon announces he will be launching a political movement after the elections while Anne Hidalgo, Martine Aubry and Christiane Taubira announce their own political movement.
Poor Hamon can't catch a break (and I guess the PS is six feet under now).
The French left was already very fractured, now it will be more so. This isn't as bad as it would be in say the UK as shared tickets and alliances in parliament are a thing but it doesn't bode well for the future of the socialist party. That said parties can fall, rise, merge, rename and the same people will be in French politics until the end of time itself whatever their colours.
The bigger immediate worry for the left is probably Mélenchon as he won't do any deals with anybody (unless it's the other person bending the knee in front of him) and will split the left vote everywhere as a result.
The French left was already very fractured, now it will be more so. This isn't as bad as it would be in say the UK as shared tickets and alliances in parliament are a thing but it doesn't bode well for the future of the socialist party. That said parties can fall, rise, merge, rename and the same people will be in French politics until the end of time itself whatever their colours.
The bigger immediate worry for the left is probably Mélenchon as he won't do any deals with anybody (unless it's the other person bending the knee in front of him) and will split the left vote everywhere as a result.
These two are clearly not political party but only movements, there were multiple like that before already and they were not mutually exclusive like the two things with Hidalgo and Hamon.
Though things have been set in motion and the PS should implode sooner or later with the left wing on one side trying to band with ecologist communist and maybe Melenchon (why is this guy so stubborn sometimes, I swear), and the right wing will go begging at Macron in a more subtle way than Valls is doing now.
Or so I wish, but it will be most likely be more nuanced than that because you still have many people who want to keep the skeleton that is PS alive for obscure reasons (that I honestly don't know but which probably involve a lot of money and legal stuff)
Kinda funny how both Hamon and Valls almost "chose" the same day to have the party explode on both sides though, what a spectacula failure the primaries were for the "PS" in the end (not to mention De Rugy than went straight for Macron very early into Hamon's campain)
PS sigil is kept up because there's so much History tied to it.
It's still the party of Jaurès, Blum, Mittérend and Jospin.
That count for something at least in the mind of people.
Myself I would burn it to the ground but there wouldn't be much left if I had my way though .
The PS might survive indeed. I mean, it managed to survive its international scission in 1920 which led to the creation of the PCF.
Its main problem is that it doesn't have much to fall back on. It has lost all of the recent elections, most of its electorate has voted for Melenchon and Macron in the présidentielle, its local networks are now inexistant and it has lost most of his militants (I think it has less than 40.000 active militants right now, which is pretty pathetic).
They will probably underperform in the législatives, which means that their public financing will be super low.
Even if the socialistes want to keep the party afloat, they won't have much money to do so especially since their political capital is pretty much inexistant right now. They would need a new Congrès d'Epinay if they don't want to become a new Parti Radical.
To be fair PS only existed because of everything Mitterend, it might be time for them to shed that and try to actually propose something a little more modern than whatever the fuck they thought they were peddling.
Clearly they weren't doing it for the workers.
She doesn't want to have little fights with her aunt in the party, she never did. I don't see her coming back unless her aunt is impeached within the party.
I despise her ideas and her family but for once that doesn't seen driven by strategy.
That's not strategy as "I pretend to have personal problems but really have everything planned and be back soon *evil laugh*", that's wait and see strategy. She saw the context wasn't favourable, she will do things that she will be able to use to her credit if she comes back and she'll be ready if there's an opportunity. In the current state of her party I'd say it's a rather smart move.
From what the media reported she has a small daughter to take care off and is in the midst of a divorce.
I don't think her retiring is a strategy, her grandfather the infamous negationist already blasted her for it.
That guy is responsible for her going into politics in the 1st place.
To someone like JM Le Pen, anyone who stops the fight is at fault, n'est-ce pas. We're talking about a man who completely neglected his family to build the FN. The party must stay strong and is more important than individual agendas. He's also against big changes in the FN structure (like a name change) even if it could be beneficial to its still tainted image. Someone he considers as his successor (now that Marine did what she did) leaving will never be something he can accept, strategy or not.
The PS might survive indeed. I mean, it managed to survive its international scission in 1920 which led to the creation of the PCF.
Its main problem is that it doesn't have much to fall back on. It has lost all of the recent elections, most of its electorate has voted for Melenchon and Macron in the présidentielle, its local networks are now inexistant and it has lost most of his militants (I think it has less than 40.000 active militants right now, which is pretty pathetic).
They will probably underperform in the législatives, which means that their public financing will be super low.
Even if the socialistes want to keep the party afloat, they won't have much money to do so especially since their political capital is pretty much inexistant right now. They would need a new Congrès d'Epinay if they don't want to become a new Parti Radical.
I think if the PS is smart they should just wait until the storm passes. A lot of social democrats at heart voted for Mélenchon in the présidentielle, and I very much doubt he'll be able to keep most of them (from what I'm seeing he's doing all the wrong moves already).
The right wing crossing toward en marche is probably a more serious problem, but I could easily see them working out some kind of arrangement with people having dual membership, and en marche will certainly lose a lot of steam in the next few years (parties in power are always weakened in France).
Doesn't make it any less of a problem. Also, just checked, he's been representing southern and southwestern France (but not Marseilles) at the European level since 2009.
But before that, from 1986 to 2010, he was either senator, general councilor, or council president of Essonne. 24 years in Essonne, 8 years in "the South West", and now Marseilles. Next thing you'll know he'll be running for mayor in Lille.
PS sigil is kept up because there's so much History tied to it.
It's still the party of Jaurès, Blum, Mittérend and Jospin.
That count for something at least in the mind of people.
Myself I would burn it to the ground but there wouldn't be much left if I had my way though .
The SFIO isn't exactly the PS, PS has "only" been around for Mitterand and Jospin.
As often when you have a big party it only works if there's a strong leadership and there hasn't been one since Jospin.
In 2012 he went to directly face Le Pen in the north, and fully supported the PS candidate who went on to win with a 100 votes margin but yes he has "no balls".
In 2012 he wanted first to beat Le Pen, this year he clearly wants to have as many deputees as possible (at least 15 to make a group) and be the one to direct it so he went for the easiest* win possible I think yeah (*whether or not it will be that easy is another matter).
As someone who first and foremost put himself on the national front he doesn't have any local implantation anywhere, which might be considered as a problem when running for a local election but in the first place he wouldn't have any legitimacy anywhere.
Trump didn't invite him; TheRebel, a Canadian online journalism outlet, sent him after they got a temporary pool credential (press credentialling is handled by a group of journalists unconnected to the administration). Don't put news stories you can't verify yourself while calling out conspiracy theories.
In 2012 he went to directly face Le Pen in the north, and fully supported the PS candidate who went on to win with a 100 votes margin but yes he has "no balls".
In 2012 he wanted first to beat Le Pen, this year he clearly wants to have as many deputees as possible (at least 15 to make a group) and be the one to direct it so he went for the easiest* win possible I think yeah (*whether or not it will be that easy is another matter).
As someone who first and foremost put himself on the national front he doesn't have any local implantation anywhere, which might be considered as a problem when running for a local election but in the first place he wouldn't have any legitimacy anywhere.
I stand corrected, I'd completely forgotten about that episode. So he had balls in 2012 then. But, while his intentions were admirable, his strategy was stupid, and it unsurprisingly ended in a defeat. You need to get a local candidate and support them, rather than always be trying to be the center of attention. This is just another example that proves his egocentrism (to be fair, all politicians suffer from some egocentrism, but Mélenchon is quite far along the spectrum IMO).
He had his fiefdom in Essonne for a quarter-century, he could run there and (beat Valls while he's at it) and support a Marseillais insoumis down South at the same time. Instead he's just trying to run up the score pointlessly. If his goal is to get as many seats as possible, then why waste him (the biggest name) on the easiest seat?
I stand corrected, I'd completely forgot about that episode. So he had balls in 2012 then. But, while his intentions were admirable, his strategy was stupid, and it unsurprisingly ended in a defeat. You need to get a local candidate and support them, rather than always be trying to be the center of attention. This is just another example that proves his egocentrism (to be fair, all politicians suffer from some egocentrism, but Mélenchon is quite far along the spectrum IMO).
Well is that surprising given his admiration for Maduro and Chavez?
He had his fiefdom in Essonne for a quarter-century, he could run there and (beat Valls while he's at it) and support a Marseillais insoumis down South at the same time. Instead he's just trying to run up the score pointlessly. If his goal is to get as many seats as possible, then why waste him (the biggest name) on the easiest seat?
Do we?
Never heard that before a google search gave me a few sparse results but from what I gather the meaning doesn't fully apply there, it's rather about staying in your comfort zone from a political point of view (like there or there)
@Magnel : Because it's not that easy?
A 40% at first round doesn't necessary end up with you being elected at the 2nd round, just look at the FN at every election for the past few years.
Also despite the growing importance of FI and Melenchon on the political landscape, it also comes with a lot of critics (some legitimate, some not, that's not my point) with growing resentment from every other political parties, you can bet that if there are circonscriptions that end up with FN and FI as the two leading candidates there's a 95% probability LR-UDI will call for "ni ni", and a very high probability EM-MODEM will do the same and for the PS a lot of them will probably remain silent (seeing how the right wing is the one dominating the party right now) which a decade ago would've been unthinkable.
Once again I'm trying to speak about pure "politics" there while not displaying any kind of bias?
@Magni : Because it's not that easy?
A 40% at first round doesn't necessary end up with you being elected at the 2nd round, just look at the FN at every election for the past few years.
Also despite the growing importance of FI and Melenchon on the political landscape, it also comes with a lot of critics (some legitimate, some not, that's not my point) with growing resentment from every other political parties, you can bet that if there are circonscriptions that end up with FN and FI as the two leading candidates there's a 95% probability LR-UDI will call for "ni ni", and a very high probability EM-MODEM will do the same and for the PS a lot of them will probably remain silent (seeing how the right wing is the one dominating the party right now) which a decade ago would've been unthinkable.
Once again I'm trying to speak about pure "politics" there while not displaying any kind of bias?
It's not that easy but it's a lot easier for FI than for FN. They're both extremes, but the FN is in its own class. From anecdotal experience, all the center/center-right folks I knew said they'd vote Mélenchon against Le Pen had that been the second round. A nightmare scenario for centrists, but we could still tell the difference between the two (which made the "neither plague nor cholera" bullshit so frustrating to hear).
I'm not sure what LR would do in that scenario though. They've abandoned the center and gone after the far right this past decade.
Unless they really shit the bed, I'd expect FI to get more seats than FN in June.
That's not true, he's currently european deputy for the South-West district, not really the Essone. Plus he went to Hénin-Beaumont in 2012. He's not longer linked to Essone.
You're comparing a whole Département and a single district. Not really fair.
He's up against another leftist candidate that is rooted in Marseille. Not that easy. Plus I believe he's going to be at the head of the campaign for the whole city, it'll have an impact on all districts.
But the smear campaign against him will continue, you'll always find something to insult him (your posts are full of this
And Mélenchon is still not an "extreme". He merely replaced the social-democratie Platform because they went to the center in the last 10 years. (It was well explained on Mediapart last Sunday but it's not the first time researchers show it)
That's not strategy as "I pretend to have personal problems but really have everything planned and be back soon *evil laugh*", that's wait and see strategy. She saw the context wasn't favourable, she will do things that she will be able to use to her credit if she comes back and she'll be ready if there's an opportunity. In the current state of her party I'd say it's a rather smart move.
Just read the articles about her choice, you'll that this is more complicated than the "wait and see strategy" you're picturing. She didn't want to do politics in the first place, she doesn't seem to like it - especially since she's in the minority of her party, and now she seems to want to be a normal parent and get to know better her father by working with him. That doesn't seem to be "hmm I'll work and then I'll come back at the best moment!".
Nous considérons qu'un ancien Premier ministre, qui n'est pas n'importe qui, qui de manière tardive a décidé de soutenir le projet du président de la République, a présenté une candidature qui devait être examinée respectueusement. Il ne répondait pas aux critères. Nous estimons qu'au moment où nous voulons rassembler, à ce stade nous n'investirons pas de candidate ou de candidat. On ne claque pas la porte au nez à un ancien Premier ministre qui nous dit 'j'ai envie de vous rejoindre et être utile'.
Ha ha ha such bullshit, they want to please everyone (their supporters who don't want Valls and Valls and his allies who can be a pain in the ass). It's Hollandesque. La synthèse.
Speaking of Hollande, his spin doctor/press secretary is candidate for En Marche. He's a good friend of Macron from school (ENA).
You can't hold multiple offices (e.g. being member of the european parliament and member of the french parliament) so no double-paycheck. And IIRC a MEP has a bigger income than a french deputy. Sorry.
You can't hold multiple offices (e.g. being member of the european parliament and member of the french parliament) so no double-paycheck. And IIRC a MEP has a bigger income than a french deputy. Sorry.
It is currently impossible to hold multiple executive offices.
He can still hold a canton or work in a Region (probably Guyanne for him because heh why not).
Let's wait for a more local election to see where he will go next!
There's a clear disdain for people in his nomadic habit.
A deputy represents the people living in the circumscription and instead of finding the leader of his movement he's getting in the safest place he can because he really doesn't give a shit about his EU mandate.
And by doing this he proved once again that for all his talk about VIth Republic he still doesn't understand the issues with the Vth.
It is currently impossible to hold multiple executive offices.
He can still hold a canton or work in a Region (probably Guyanne for him because heh why not).
Let's wait for a more local election to see where he will go next!
There's a clear disdain for people in his nomadic habit. A deputy represents the people living in the circumscription and instead of finding the leader of his movement he's getting in the safest place he can because he really doesn't give a shit about his EU mandate.
And by doing this he proved once again that for all his talk about VIth Republic he still doesn't understand the issues with the Vth.
I meant in his case : he doesn't have any mandate besides his european one so what you said was pure fake news since 1) he can't have multiple paychecks in this case 2) the financial argument is false : he'll have less money being french deputy
By the way members of the National Assembly don't represent their district but the whole nation : it's a national mandate.
I understand you're trying to find something against that egocentrist nomadic coward with disdain, but at least try to get your facts straight
I meant in his case : he doesn't have any mandate besides his european one so what you said was pure fake news since 1) he can't have multiple paychecks in this case 2) the financial argument is false : he'll have less money being french deputy
By the way members of the National Assembly don't represent their district but the whole nation : it's a national mandate.
I understand you're trying to find something against that egocentrist nomadic coward with disdain, but at least try to get your facts straight
It's a national mandate but they represent the people of the place they were elected in.
Hence for example Noël Mamère Députy of Gironde of the 3rd Circumscription.
Hey, he pulled that shit in 2012 where he went to lose like a chump against Lepen (like always) and actually hurt the chances of deputes closer to his ideas by doing so.
As a former senator of the French republic he is also entitled to a pension that is more than enough to live like Fillon. And it's actually more interesting to be a French deputy than a European one.
As LePen is experiencing now, the EU parliament is very tight on how money is used.
Although it would be unfair to criticize Mélenchon for LePen's stupidity, it is still far easier to use money from the French parliament than the European one.
Considering how little control there is for the National Assemblee, enrichment cannot be ruled out based on direct compensation.
The Senate and the Parliament represent the country:
the Senate is the territory as they're elected by the elected offiials of the territory.
the Assemblée represent the people living in that territory.
They act and represent the people living in the place that elected them and are vital to the community they are from.
A good example of a good depute would be for example Lionel Tardy from Annecy who uses his time and indemnity to help projects from his circumscription (like he did in helping pay for fiber connecting the valley of Annecy).
By making the mandate national, it's only dilluting the mandate and making the depute responsible before his political formation instead of the people who voted for him.
A depute like Mélenchon can be an absolute crapsack who embezzle money and shit on the people of his circumscription. When shit hit the fan he can fly to be elected elsewere because there's other idiots from accross the country ready to vote for him.
Mélenchon, like always, is a disgrace.
Trump didn't invite him; TheRebel, a Canadian online journalism outlet, sent him after they got a temporary pool credential (press credentialling is handled by a group of journalists unconnected to the administration). Don't put news stories you can't verify yourself while calling out conspiracy theories.
Contrairement à une idée souvent véhiculée, le député ne représente pas uniquement sa circonscription, mais la Nation tout entière. Il détient un « mandat national » : cest en pensant à lintérêt de tous les Français, où quils vivent, quil prend ses décisions, notamment lors du vote des lois.
Your hypothesis of Mélenchon embezzling money is funny, yet your have no proof of him ever doing that or possibly doing it. Calling people who'd vote for him idiots is a real disgrace though, you only know how to pronounce anathema upon someone. You despise him, you disagree with him, that's alright, but let's be gentle and discuss in on a factual basis, not fake news and speculation.
Your hypothesis of Mélenchon embezzling money is funny, yet your have no proof of him ever doing that or possibly doing it. Calling people who'd vote for him idiots is a real disgrace though, you only know how to pronounce anathema upon someone. You despise him, you disagree with him, that's alright, but let's be gentle and discuss in on a factual basis, not fake news and speculation.
We're not in America, the constitution can contradict itself.
If the National Assembly only represented the Nation they would be elected proportionally.
That is absolutely not the case as you well know.
As such they do NOT represent the nation's opinion.
How come the Parti Communist STILL manages to score deputies when they represent less than nothing as far as French politics goes.
How come the Front National isn't represented in more than a handful of circumscription?
The "National Assembly" represent the Nation over the people living in the place they were elected is another lie put in the constitution.
It's as laughable as the "France doesn't see race" one, the great thing about that is we can't talk about segregation and have to hide behind "communautarism" buzzword to even start talking about it.
The point is not that Mélenchon embezzle money is that he will live more comfortably at the National Assembly than he will at the European one, we know enough of how deputation works to put a stamp on that.
He does not give a shit about people who voted for him before, he will not care about the people who would elect him in Marseille either.
Do you know what happens if you contact a depute from another circumscription about a matter you want to bring to the Assemblée? They will direct you toward your circumscription's depute.
As it is in the current French Republic they can say whatever they want but in the end the deputes represent the people over the overall nation, its very composition demands it.
If you (general you) want to vote for someone who tells you they want the position without the accountability, I'll rightfully call you an idiot.
And there's no fake news here, I'm not a media so I don't make news.
Mélenchon is still trying to get a more comfortable position from his EU mandate while trying to do away with his righteousness.
And funny seeing you projecting me throwing anathema on him when that's basically the only thing he ever did in his political life.
e:And I better not see you in another thread calling Trump voters or Lepen voters morons because boy wouldn't I hate that kind of hypocrisy.
Do you know what happens if you contact a depute from another circumscription about a matter you want to bring to the Assemblée? They will direct you toward your circumscription's depute.
Are you aware that in the case he's elected, he will have an office in Marseille and there's good chance there will always be a legislative assistant there to do the job?
I find you very angry over Mélenchon for doing something that is:
1) allowed by the law
2) been done for years
3) not actually the real problem we have to solve with how the assembly works right now
It's exactly like that common criticism "he as too much of an ego" that apply to virtually every one of his opponents but is still only used against him.
On the money side of things, he repeatedly said that he would not ask for his senate pension as long as he was making a living. It's not about money unlike you're trying to make it look like.
Also, being candidate in Marseille will boost the other FI candidates around, which is strategically a great move if you want to win seats. Because in the end, it's what it is about, the more seats, the more ways to oppose Macron, and the more opportunities to consolidate the 19.58% of the presidential election.
But I guess you're just here to call people idiots and feeling rightfull? That's what? Two or three unnecessary agressive posts?
Are you aware that in the case he's elected, he will have an office in Marseille and there's good chance there will always be a legislative assistant there to do the job?
I find you very angry over Mélenchon for doing something that is:
1) allowed by the law
2) been done for years
3) not actually the real problem we have to solve with how the assembly works right now
It's exactly like that common criticism "he as too much of an ego" that apply to virtually every one of his opponents but is still only used against him.
On the money side of things, he repeatedly said that he would not ask for his senate pension as long as he was making a living. It's not about money unlike you're trying to make it look like.
Also, being candidate in Marseille will boost the other FI candidates around, which is strategically a great move if you want to win seats. Because in the end, it's what it is about, the more seats, the more ways to oppose Macron, and the more opportunities to consolidate the 19.58% of the presidential election.
But I guess you're just here to call people idiots and feeling rightfull? That's what? Two or three unnecessary agressive posts?
If we're going to talk about ego, believe me he's far from the worst, I have books I could write about Sarkozy or Valls.
Hey who gives a shit if he actually shows up for the job,there's going to be a fall guy who will cover for him!
That's the whole issue though, aren't the insoumis all about doing things differently from the old political system?
Why am I getting flashback from 88 onward where politicians would choose the easiest place to get a nice revenue stream in their income?
He can be there boosting candidates without wasting an office someone in the movement can held and win.
What did you think happened in Hénin-Beaumont exactly?
Is Marine the mayor of the place or something?
Btw he did say he was coming back there, I guess he's tired of losing to Lepen...
His running for that position does more harm than good to his movement,
it shows that they do not trust the people in Marseille to win without him,
it also shows that the movement is about him more than any ideology.
It's easy to feel righteous when what you're decrying is blatant hypocrisy.
We're not in America, the constitution can contradict itself.
If the National Assembly only represented the Nation they would be elected proportionally.
(...)
And there's no fake news here, I'm not a media so I don't make news.
Mélenchon is still trying to get a more comfortable position from his EU mandate while trying to do away with his righteousness.
And funny seeing you projecting me throwing anathema on him when that's basically the only thing he ever did in his political life.
e:And I better not see you in another thread calling Trump voters or Lepen voters morons because boy wouldn't I hate that kind of hypocrisy.
They don't represent their districts or "the people of the place they were elected in", period. You can write an essay about how they are grounded in their areas (including with public funds that can be used to these areas) but that doesn't make représentatives of their districts. The Constitution is clear on that matter and doesn't contradict itself. It has nothing to do with a proportionnal representation as you'll find out in either constitutional law textbook.
You don't have to be a media to spread fake news or misinformation as part of the Crusade you're leading. The part about embezzling was quite disgusting to be fair, especially knowing he had the most progressive platform on this issue (following Anticor's agenda). Your posts are basically "he's bad, he's done bad thing, so he'll be bad and will do bad things", yet it's based on nothing more than your personnal opinion and a few clichés that I've read in the Facebook feeds of my friends who work for Macron's campaign. You're posting one bit of old news, vague fact or false information, then you put some speculation or personnal opinion on it, and you wrap it up, waiting for a detailled answer that will debunk what you say but you'll continue anyway, finding new hypothesis.
I never called their voters morons and I had a few arguments with Hillarist post-Trump Victory or even in this thread trying to explain them that this social disdain is precisely the reason why they were ineffective when it comes to ethno-nationalism. So you won't be able to lecture me on that.
And this isn't an easy district despite the good numbers he did, he can win it obviously but I don't believe it was doable without him or a national figure considering he is against the current deputy who's a leftist and known political figure.
When did he say he will definitely go back to Hénin-Beaumont?
(waiting for that old 2012 quote)
I'm out for today, have a good fight my dear Knight. Waiting to read your posts about the real issues - BUT MELENCHON IS AN EGOCENTRIST HYPOCRIT - ok ok you won.
I like Melenchon but I'm really disappointed by his parachutisme as well. For someone who is as critical on the 5th democracy as he is, I'm really troubled to see him do this.
They don't represent their districts or "the people of the place they were elected in", period. You can write an essay about how they are grounded in their areas (including with public funds that can be used to these areas) but that doesn't make représentatives of their districts. The Constitution is clear on that matter and doesn't contradict itself. It has nothing to do with a proportionnal representation as you'll find out in either constitutional law textbook.
How the institutions are written and how they work are entirely 2 different things.
The Constitution was written with someone in mind : De Gaulle.
It gives a mechanism for the parliament to revoke the government and another one to revoke the parliament. Nothing to revoke the president ever "because in light of elections the president is supposed to revoke himself in case he doesn't have the majority to govern".
Or so it was thought up, it lead us to 2 cohabitations because the actual intent of the law wasn't followed.
And the actual text of the Constitution doesn't say a word about the legitimity of the Assemblée. Title IV : Article 24
Le Parlement vote la loi. Il contrôle l'action du Gouvernement. Il évalue les politiques publiques.
Il comprend l'Assemblée nationale et le Sénat.
Les députés à l'Assemblée nationale, dont le nombre ne peut excéder cinq cent soixante-dix-sept, sont élus au suffrage direct.
Le Sénat, dont le nombre de membres ne peut excéder trois cent quarante-huit, est élu au suffrage indirect. Il assure la représentation des collectivités territoriales de la République.
Les Français établis hors de France sont représentés à l'Assemblée nationale et au Sénat.
You'll note that the role of the Senate as representing the territory is well defined but nothing on the other Chamber.
The organic laws may say otherwise but the actual text of the constitution as of january 2015 says nothing.
For someone crying about #FakeNews in every post I would have thought you would have checked.
You don't have to be a media to spread fake news or misinformation as part of the Crusade you're leading. The part about embezzling was quite disgusting to be fair, especially knowing he had the most progressive platform on this issue (following Anticor's agenda). Your posts are basically "he's bad, he's done bad thing, so he'll be bad and will do bad things", yet it's based on nothing more than your personnal opinion and a few clichés that I've read in the Facebook feeds of my friends who work for Macron's campaign. You're posting one bit of old news, vague fact or false information, then you put some speculation or personnal opinion on it, and you wrap it up, waiting for a detailled answer that will debunk what you say but you'll continue anyway, finding new hypothesis.
His whole campaign this year is about how he's the best candidate the Left has.
It's a paraphrase, you should know it's some kind of way to use words.
He's saying he's pushing for a new way to make politics in France, yet everything he does goes against that.
As for Fb, the biggest I have on my feed that talk about him now that he's lost is basically someone from his left lamenting his blatant hypocrisy.
In French politics, regardless of direct income, National Assembly is ALWAYS higher priority than the European that is seen as barely legitimate as it is (highest record of people not even going to vote).
French politicians never usually care about that parliament and will quickly withdraw their engagement if they have something more "juicy" in France.
It is the case for any proeminent politician with a France wide recognition, from Dati to Lepen by passing on Mamère.
That Mélenchon is so quick to shed his European parliamentary position to complain in the National Assembly (because he's clearly not there to rule, just read his presidential program if you're under that delusion).
I never called their voters morons and I had a few arguments with Hillarist post-Trump Victory or even in this thread trying to explain them that this social disdain is precisely the reason why they were ineffective when it comes to ethno-nationalism. So you won't be able to lecture me on that.
Good for you.
I don't see any reason to not be blunt when talking about voters that willingly decide to deceive themselves.
Someone who decide to vote for a candidate that will literally want to kill them because they're afraid of brown people doesn't really deserve much respect.
If I have to explain to them why I do deserve to live I'll let them explain to me why they deserve to not treated the way they act.
And this isn't an easy district despite the good numbers he did, he can win it obviously but I don't believe it was doable without him or a national figure considering he is against the current deputy who's a leftist and known political figure.
When did he say he will definitely go back to Hénin-Beaumont?
"Après la défaite de juin, qui fut un beau combat, il nous avait promis qu'il serait présent si on avait de nouveau besoin de lui. Or sans lui, on n'a aucune chance de faire barrage au FN"
About where he decide to land like an angel trying to save the world, he's been an elected official of Essonne for something close to 20 years. there's 10 deputés in that department.
3 of them are on the right, one is Valls, 5 are on the left and the last one is EELV with an electoral map that looked like that last time.
He did 21.88% in the 1st round too which is just below his "fantastic" score of 22,02 in the department Marseille is (which is also below Marine Lepen too btw).
And as he claim, if the mandate is national why doesn't he go somewhere that the Right could actually win without him and take one seat away from the Right or even FN?
I'm out for today, have a good fight my dear Knight. Waiting to read your posts about the real issues - BUT MELENCHON IS AN EGOCENTRIST HYPOCRIT - ok ok you won.
I'm going to stay, you'll certainly get to read how much I despise Lefevbre and how a deputé should actually do his job instead of lollygagging about something else.
That's not true, he's currently european deputy for the South-West district, not really the Essone. Plus he went to Hénin-Beaumont in 2012. He's not longer linked to Essone.
I mentioned his European job in my follow-up post, and was reminded of his 2012 legislative run by Fisico. Though as Mael has pointed out, so much from his promise after losing that "I'll be back". Also, still not quite sure how he ended up in the South-West in 2009? not finding any articles about it from the time.
Fine. The only circumscription he has a direct link to is the 6th, and he got 22.74% of the vote there (his best result among the ten circumscriptions of Essonne). Still a lot weaker than what he got in the 4th of Bouches-du-Rhône.
He's up against another leftist candidate that is rooted in Marseille. Not that easy. Plus I believe he's going to be at the head of the campaign for the whole city, it'll have an impact on all districts.
The "he has no balls" thing was certainly an insult, but everything that came after that was me pointing out that his strategy is a dumb one. I called him "more egocentric than most politicians", but that's not really an insult, that's just pointing out reality.
And Mélenchon is still not an "extreme". He merely replaced the social-democratie Platform because they went to the center in the last 10 years. (It was well explained on Mediapart last Sunday but it's not the first time researchers show it)
Far-left if you prefer. His foreign policy positions are certainly extreme though. I'd argue the Hamon wing of the PS represent the "old left", he's still further left of that.
Just read the articles about her choice, you'll that this is more complicated than the "wait and see strategy" you're picturing. She didn't want to do politics in the first place, she doesn't seem to like it - especially since she's in the minority of her party, and now she seems to want to be a normal parent and get to know better her father by working with him. That doesn't seem to be "hmm I'll work and then I'll come back at the best moment!".
I read a bunch, I think we just don't interpret them the same way (and I'm not the only one, here and here. Hope you like Christophe "red scarf" Barbier lol). A decision like this can be nuanced and have several reasons behind it. Note that I'd clearly prefer her staying away from politics.
Time will tell I guess.
The situation with Bayrou is a bit ambiguous... When Bayrou brought his support, he claimed it was just to help Macron and not to bargain seats at the government or the parliament. Then we learnt that there would be arrangements between EM and Modem in the end. And then that those arrangements aren't what some thought they would be.
It looks a bit like the Valls situation, EM wants to give something to people who supported them, without looking like they're giving in old school negotiations. Walking on a tight rope there.
), Baroin coming to his rescue.
