The "place to get excited" part is one of the main concerns in the first place. We get communities forming before the game is even out that are established based on being incredibly hyped for something (which, by its nature, is all positivity), and then someone comes in with a dissenting opinion and they're run out of town. We want OTs to be where people talk about the game they're playing, not the game they're anticipating.
The "place to get excited" part is one of the main concerns in the first place. We get communities forming before the game is even out that are established based on being incredibly hyped for something (which, by its nature, is all positivity), and then someone comes in with a dissenting opinion and they're run out of town. We want OTs to be where people talk about the game they're playing, not the game they're anticipating.
If this is because the whiners in the evil within thread called every screenshot a spoiler. Bad move.
I absolutely agree with all that, good call guys.
If we're allowed to freely speak our minds, in the most polite way possible...I was gonna say "but I like hyping up my games before they are released, where would I go to now?" but your explanation is true, it happens all the time.
Good change I guess. It's for the better.
then someone comes in with a dissenting opinion and they're run out of town.
If we're allowed to freely speak our minds, in the most polite way possible...
I feel like the answer by the moderation (generally speaking), to problems like the 'OTs being places where dissenters are pushed away' , is to shut something down completely instead of weeding out those who are acting hostile and berating others. If some folks are ruining it for others, then close it all down.
It ultimately feels like collective punishment unfortunately.
The scale there is tricky though... say somebody comes into a pre-release OT with a less-than-positive opinion and gets ostracized by the echo-chamber hype train for it, who then is to blame? Do they slap the wrists of the guy stirring the pot or all of the posters too defensive to realize it's an opinion?If we're allowed to freely speak our minds, in the most polite way possible...
I feel like the answer by the moderation (generally speaking), to problems like the 'OTs being places where dissenters are pushed away' , is to shut something down completely instead of weeding out those who are acting hostile and berating others. If some folks are ruining it for others, then close it all down, essentially.
It ultimately feels like collective punishment unfortunately.
charlequin covered this on the last page. It's already been a rule that we don't encourage hype threads, although recently a few have slipped past. We want new information leading up to release to be highlighted in new threads, and we don't want threads whose only purpose is to contain conversations like "OMFG I CAN'T WAIT" "YEAH BRO" "HIGH FIVE!" "DAY 1!!!" "FUCK YEAH!" ad nauseum.
I guess I'll be the outsider who doesn't like the idea.
I want to talk about a game leading up to its release. Discuss trailers, go over early impressions, discuss Twitch streams, find unboxings on YouTube, talk about achievements, stores selling early, pre order bonuses, etc, etc....
I guess... What's the "harm" in having it up for a few days before release? The conversation is already going? Eh, I've never complained, even when jumping into an OT two weeks after release.
If we're allowed to freely speak our minds, in the most polite way possible...
I feel like the answer by the moderation (generally speaking), to problems like the 'OTs being places where dissenters are pushed away' , is to shut something down completely instead of weeding out those who are acting hostile and berating others. If some folks are ruining it for others, then close it all down, essentially.
It ultimately feels like collective punishment unfortunately.
People will just bump an old thread for the game that is tangentially relevant and form cliques and mini-communities there. I don't know how that's better.I understand but where can other like minded users who are interested in the game before release discuss? Maybe reduce the OT to perhaps 3 days before release or something but this sounds really harsh. I am afraid it is like ridding a home and bulldozing each respective games' community GAF offers and where people interested in the same game come together to form a community and add each other on friends lists and so forth.
Exactly. The "hype" and general pre-release bullshitting that would normally be reserved for OTs will just spill over into other threads.100% agree. That's exactly what I thought OTs were for in the first place. I like getting hyped for an anticipated game. Speculating, scouring screenshots/trailers/gameplay. That's the fun of the OTs! Getting excited alongside others who are all in the same place, all looking forward to something together.
Making this day one might as well have renamed the review threads "OT". I legitimately don't understand the logic behind this.
*sigh*
100% agree. That's exactly what I thought OTs were for in the first place. I like getting hyped for an anticipated game. Speculating, scouring screenshots/trailers/gameplay. That's the fun of the OTs! Getting excited alongside others who are all in the same place, all looking forward to something together.
Making this day one might as well have renamed the review threads "OT". I legitimately don't understand the logic behind this.
*sigh*
People will just bump an old thread for the game that is tangentially relevant and form cliques and mini-communities there. I don't know how that's better.
I'm with this guy. I like the OTs being up a little early because it creates awareness for the game and is the best outlet to sell me on it. A week was ideal IMO. I understand the reasoning but it didn't appear to be such a problem to warrant change, and it seems a minor problem that doesn't outweigh the pros of an earlier OT. But what do I know; I'm just a guy who was perma junior'd for posting a rumor that TLOU was coming to PS4...which turned out to be true :/.Hmm, I think some of the most fun and 'hype-inducing' convos happen in the week lead up to a game's release, that's too bad.
I think this is a good idea.Would it somehow be possible to have OT's appear one week before, but have them in the Game Community forum, which are then moved to, or reset on launch day?
I think this is a good idea.
Good, keep the hype to their own threads and give impressions and general game discussion to the OTs
You can certainly speak your mind. And then I'll remind you that all of the staff on this site are unpaid volunteers, giving their spare time to moderate the site. Expecting us to keep close tabs on every OT (or every thread, even) is not reasonable at all. We do the best we can, with the time we have, but this site is enormous and enacting sweeping policy is sometimes the only way to keep things from getting out of hand.
If you have overwhelming support for a slight tweak to that policy - letting OTs up 24 hours prior - why would you not indulge the community's wishes?
That's not even what's happening. Sounds like "hype" as a whole is trying to be eliminated.
I see nothing wrong with this, but I'm curious whether the dissenting opinions are that big of an issue in OTs? Like, how frequently will people get straight-up attacked if they explain why they think the game is bad?
Good move.
Can I also suggest to the OT makers, more FAQs inside OTs please, many times there's no such thing and its a pain to scan through pages and pages of threads to look for important info.
What does that have to do with what you quoted?
You would have two options.What if I get a game early and want to talk about it?