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Performance Analysis: Assassin's Creed Unity (Digital Foundry)
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Beautiful post, well said, I don't like how Ubisoft has been recently.
ProfessorMoran
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The first and third are mine and no it was taken using the share button and uploaded to Facebook as a jpeg.
I thought there was no day / night cycle, just set lighting. no?
edit: nevermind, I guess it does.
pixellated_man
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I have to say Microsoft sending engineers to help out with Destiny and probably other games, is something to applaud. Their actions helped up the resolution of that game from 900p to 1080p without any impact to performance on Xone. Great for Xone owners.
Having said that Microsoft are a software company with more expertise, manpower, money and motive to take such actions compared to Sony. I just wish ICE team up their game and improve their ps4 SDK's at a faster rate, assuming they are not already doing so, of course.
Seriously, those idiots buying it for the system they own.
BouncyFrag
Member
Are all the npcs necessary in the game? Could a patch scale them down and help smooth things out?
Chill. We don't know what the hell even happened to this game to make it perform so poorly. Don't throw everyone under a bridge just because of some dishonest marketing and PR.
To be fair, I haven't ever bought a Ubisoft game, so maybe that's why I'm not as upset as you.
Firmus_Anguis
Banned
Oh, Ubisoft... I'm happy I skipped this game. I hope this shitty trend stops NOW.
Projectjustice
Banned
His post just tells me he needs a break from gaming. lol
pixellated_man
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Hmm, very interesting. If that really is the case, then no doubt the ps4 version suffered because of the priority given to weaker hardware.
who is everyone? We're throwing Ubisoft under the bridge. For, as you can read, a persistent history of fucking with consumers because they know they can get away with it.
This is the last straw. It honestly doesn't matter why it's performing this badly. They saw the game was in this state, and released it. Either their ambitions were too high or they designed a game as an unoptimized mess for the systems or they failed to do their jobs in some way. There is no actual excuse that makes them look OK.
And then you pile on all the rest of the shit they've been doing?
Yeah, no. Fuck Ubi bro
The PS4 SDK has been good from the get go and it has been reported that they are trying to it improve it even further.
AgentOtaku
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I said COT DAYUM!!!!!
pixellated_man
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Wow! The clarity of the pc version compared to ps4! And some people claim resolution isn't that important. Tsk.
This can't be quoted enough. Ubi is probably the shittiest big publisher on the market right now. They put out some gems once in a while, like AC4(and FC4 is looking pretty decent too), but even on those games they tack on bullshit like Uplay. On top of that, they now have the nerve to introduce F2P-like microtransactions in their not so free half finished games.
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They aren't sending engineers out of the kindness of their hearts. They are desperate to get rid of resolution debates and Destiny still looked worse on XB1.
LurkingFear
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Well... Crossing Eden, what do you have to say for yourself?!
Couldnt find a pitchfork-wielding mob
I would say it's texture resolution as well. Maybe PC down sampling too?, I dont know. Though higher res defintely helps
Fair enough I guess. I play mostly Nintendo games so the whole world of DLC micro transactions and bad optimization is mostly alien to me. I guess it's probably really frustrating if you're a fan of UbiSoft's games but not their business practices.
Sue me, but I prefer the softness of the PS4 image quality.
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There's thousands more NPCs on screen over last gen AC titles. They could easily drop the size by 20% and still have it look huge. It would absolutely still be among the biggest interactive crowds at that size. Heck, there's some streets that look as busy as modern Manhattan despite no riots going on, which to me just seemed oddly overpopulated.
veloxStrix
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Did you even read the post? It's not just about why the game performs so poorly. Ubisoft has very quickly became the greediest company in the industry. Completely anti-consumer.
It's to the point where I won't be purchasing Far Cry 4. I know it will be good, but I can't justify supporting a company that doesn't care for the people buying its products. I'll just send that money Rockstars direction.
Edit: This coming from the guy who generally mocks people for saying they won't be getting a game has a certain irony to it, I understand. If I ever called you out, now is your chance to devastate me.
Sword Of Doom
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Well yeah especially when you force an annual release. It's just so stupid
Memorabilia
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This.
Its absolutely impossible from a mathematical perspective for the tiny differential in CPU clock to result in such a large frame per second differential.
There is ZERO chance that is the reason this is happening.
Mr. PlayStation
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Calling them out for making promises that they can't/don't keep is ok. But what exactly is it that's making you to call them greedy or anti-consumer?
not so random, everyone has a point. I mean if you went into a Watch Dogs topic after you played it and said "I won't buy Ubifactory games after playing this" nobody would say it was random. For you it was Watch Dogs, for others it's today and this latest travesty. It's just sad the way Ubi is these days
TalkingToast
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"Outside of more open areas, Assassin's Creed Unity manages to deliver a consistent 30fps on both consoles for prolonged periods of time, adding a welcome degree of smoothness that complements the generally excellent next-generation graphical upgrade."
Wow. I'm a huge fan of this series, and all the talk about unplayable framerates today got me all freaked out, and thinking I was going to have to hold off on playing this until I could afford to upgrade me PC. Seems like all the framerate fuss was over nothing, especially considering I'll be getting this on the One.
Wow. I'm a huge fan of this series, and all the talk about unplayable framerates today got me all freaked out, and thinking I was going to have to hold off on playing this until I could afford to upgrade me PC. Seems like all the framerate fuss was over nothing, especially considering I'll be getting this on the One.
veloxStrix
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The review embargo on a game that is OBVIOUSLY broken. They didn't ship the game and then realized, "Oh, wait. This doesn't seem to be working at all!" The DRM that Ubisoft uses. Microtransactions in a $60 game (and don't say it's been there since AC3, because I've been complaining about it since AC3. I know how long they've been adding this crap.). Telling us that "30FPS" gives the game a "cinematic feel" especially now that we realize the game doesn't even hit 30 half the time.
I could probably write an essay on things that Ubisoft has done wrong. It's not excusable at this point. If you need more, read the post by Amirox. Follow the links.
More on topic, they are greedy because they knew this game was trash. Unless they just never played their own product. Ubisoft has just went downhill in a major way within the last few years. Not trying to persuade you to hate Ubi or anything, just saying that I, personally, won't be buying another game by them until they begin respecting consumers. Plenty of other games coming out.
After they see this chart Ubi decides to make a CPU bound game.
that is about right. it will be really interesting to see what happens when they defer more tasks to the GPU.
i've never seen a generation so lop sided in power and yet publishers, like Ubisoft in particular, seem to be holding back more than ever. it's like we keep having "resolutongate" type moments, where everyone paying attention comes out scratching their heads. in this case, it's utilizing the CPU and ignoring whats under the PS4's hood.
really hope Ubisoft steps it up soon
Memorabilia
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Exactly. YAWN.
This + "press x to win" is the biggest reason Ubifactory (I LOLed) have pretty much been on my "Buy Only When $15 or less and/or used" list going back to Ass Creed 1.
ninjablade
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Poor optimization on the ps4 port. 40% more powerful yet, no improvements in graphics, lower the stupid NPC count and get this running 1080p/30fps. I find mind boggling the XB1 version runs better, must be extra cash involved.
There's difference between softness and a vaseline smear, they used the worst kind of FXAA setting in the game which is enhanced by the low resolution. You can get the same effect on PC by setting FXAA to maximum, but nobody does it because it looks like ass. I really hate how developers treat that effect these days.
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Probably the fact they push hard for pre-orders with discounts and exclusive items, many of which can't be cancelled upon the game's reviews if they are digital or shipped via online retailer.
And they hype up a desirable release opportunity to play but again they have embargoed away any chance you will have of knowing the game's general quality before mid day on release, for many that is 12 hours after they have the game in hand. If you open it, physical or digital, you are generally screwed come the reviews 12 hours later.
If you decide to wait on reviews, you will pay more and get less in game options because you didn't pre-order when they had discount and item incentives.
3rdamention
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Hell, just 500-1000 NPCs would blow my face off. It would have been completely and totally unique for console game. Its almost like that 10000 number was some type of bullet point for them, to say they have done something no other game has done.
Despite the fact that they did it at a very large cost to performance on both consoles.
jellies_two
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Wait, the PC JPG is 1.6mb and the PS4 JPG is 189kb
I'm not stating anything about clarity of PS4 vs PC I've no idea on that HOWEVER you can't take compressed JPGs and compare them when the compression level is 8x higher in one than the other...
-Pyromaniac-
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I'm with y2kev except I didn't even get watch dogs. Ubisoft is just generic and boring and predictable as fuck. Ubisoft games just aren't worth the money.
Memorabilia
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Uh...$99 macrotranactions inside a $60 game? Using F2P sales techniques inside a game with a retail price is absolute bullshit and the height of anti-consumer.
Superfluous and completely annoying, non-functional DRM platform that has the bonus of not working at ALL to deter pirates while inconveniencing the average person. Pirated copies of their games actually do work better simply because the DRM has been removed.
Giving public lip service to the issue by having company reps admit they know DRM doesn't work but then continuing to use it anyway.
I'm sure there's more that bother others but those are the main ones that bother me.
If they could hit 1080 and a smooth 30 with 1000 NPCs and without huge amounts of pop in, it would have been impressive as hell. 10k NPCs was just overkill and whoever was too stubborn to allow them to turn it down sank the ability of the game to achieve it's numerous other goals.
People are buying way too much into GPGPU. Games are harder to run things in parallel. AI and Physics for example is something that I have a hard time seeing running in parallel. AI tasks running in parallel would be hard to do too due to AI being a lot of branching code. Threading on the CPU can be difficult, on GPU its even harder because you have to break things down into smaller chunks and find ways to run as much as you can in parallel.
AI would be tough to run on GPGPU but it excells at physics. For this game it would make more sense to offset cloth physics on GPGPU to clear up CPU resources, if they haven't already.
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So PS4 should be running better than XB1 right? There's like no reason it shouldn't be the better version in this gen of consoles when developed for correctly?
Sounds like the CPU is a single digit difference in percentage favoring XB1, but PS4's GPU is in the dozens of percentage ahead of XB1.
Sounds like the CPU is a single digit difference in percentage favoring XB1, but PS4's GPU is in the dozens of percentage ahead of XB1.
But, Cerny said.