LordCBH
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I will sell my PS5 in a fit of UNBIRDLED RAGE if Redfall comes to PS5.
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Phil Spencer: announcement this week
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I will sell my PS5 in a fit of UNBIRDLED RAGE if Redfall comes to PS5.
Heisenberg007
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Yes. Well said.
The "Xbox console will go away" is considered more of a long-term repercussions of their announcements next week, not the main announcement next week.
The rumors are about Xbox putting some of their games on PlayStation and Nintendo, paving the way for potential future releases as well. If the next business update has that (and even nothing else), it means the OG rumors were true.
James Sawyer Ford
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sachos
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Now i get the feeling that they saw everyone panicking and they are using this week to re plan everything. A final push/chance for "Team Exclusives" inside Xbox?
James Sawyer Ford
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Microsoft isnt going to care about .0000001% of their most toxic fans panicking and shape their business direction
Hero of Spielberg
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Gerstman is basically a recluse streaming from his bedroom at this point. Not sure how much insight/ credibility he has left
James Sawyer Ford
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Gerstman is one of the more reasonable/credible journalists in this space, far moreso than the toxic xbox twitter crowd that delusionally believe Xbox will never be held to any kind of ROI and that MS is willing to throw money out the window to appease the Xbox hardcore loyalists forever
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ViciousAgenda
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I don't believe this is gonna happen.
Hero of Spielberg
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Anyone looks credible compared to wackos on Twitter
Unknown Soldier
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Heisenberg007
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I think that's a fair assessment.
I am onboard with what Tom Warren said. Only a few very high-level Microsoft execs actually know what's happening. It's not an "Xbox only" thing anymore, so only a select few people would be aware of what's going on. Not even all of Xbox leadership would know.
Everything else that most folks are saying -- positive or negative -- is either speculation or false information.
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RoboEight
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I mean it depends what would be going to other platforms and in some instances it makes sense. A game like Sea of Thieves could use a player boost and as a service game it makes sense, hell even Halo Infinite f2p multiplayer would make sense and if anything would be a nice boost for the community in terms of numbers which haven't been that great. I dunno I don't see the issue with these types of things and if they wanna keep it exclusive for a year or a few months and then release it elsewhere who cares if anything it makes the dev studios more money to fund other projects the game pass cheque can only stretch so far. MS is not gonna be a major contender and hasn't been for awhile so if MS bring some games to other platforms it only makes sense and is a smart business move from them because they will only benefit from it. It is obvious imo that MS are definitely going all in with digital and their cloud services and judging by the potential leaked console it pretty much looks that way. They will most likely rely heavily on GP still and market it as a "play free on GP or spend $70 elsewhere" type deal. I'm really like my XSX so I hope it isn't much worse but if it is then so be it I mean people acting like them going third party will leave Sony to dominate when they already do I doubt much would change.
pasterpl
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Sot, Minecraft, CoD, Warzone, Elders scrolls online, state of decay (that wouldn’t surprise me), overwatch, Diablo, quake, if they do it - candy crush Console edition
etc. i wouldnt be surprised that this list is even longer. Don’t expect Halo(maybe on MP element), Forza, Gears, Fable and any other SP game (unless game was in development for PS and/or switch as well, before MS acquisition of a company (hifirush, starfield). If ms acquire palworld I expect this to be on all platforms.Not this same. Reminder MS already publish games on Xbox, pc (incl. steam), steam deck, mobile (xcloud) + remember ubisoft got cloud agreement with MS and Ubisoft is platform agnostic, Nintendo and Sony got their own agreements with MS re ABK that covers next 10 years.
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thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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Not really tho
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Bernardougf
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Ahhh so is just people friendly chating about bringing Gears of War or Starfield or whatever to Playstation.... nobody know whats happening... Im pretty sure in Sony's HQ is the same thing, people walking and friendly chating everyday about maybe bringing Last of Us or God of War to xbox. Just another day in the office. Nothing to see here.
buenoblue
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Lol true
it's still a fact though that microsofts two biggest earners are multiplatform. Just something I hadn't considered. If they are seeing how much money games make multi platform compared to exclusive I guarantee the math makes sense.
Oh and I bet bet Jeff is making more money than he has in his life
and that he knows more about gaming than 99% of people out there. Jeff Gerstman is still a threat!
DJ12
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Cope?
You think Nadella gives a shit about some twatter and YouTube idiots being up in arms?
This is purely about the numbers, and the lack of profit.
Pandering to those people won't change the situation.
These people won't ever pay full price fro games or even gamepass.
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Heisenberg007
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[BREAKING] - Satya cancels multiplatform plans and the Business Update event.
"Timdog has already left us. I don't care about money; I just can't see them like this anymore. My people are suffering. All games to remain exclusive, and Game Pass will be free!"
xHunter
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Battle of the insiders.
So we have Xboxera and S SneakersSO (slightly) doubling down on Starfield coming to PS5 and Nate backtracking. Will be a crazy week for sure. Hoping for more drama tbh.
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DJ12
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Not really, Nate just jumped in for 'I knew too' brags when in reality he didn't and still doesn't know anything.
Battle of the insiders.
So we have Xboxera and S SneakersSO (slightly) doubling down on Starfield coming to PS5 and Nate backtracking. Will be a crazy week for sure. Hoping for more drama tbh.
Heisenberg007
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That is true. Also, it's so messy because almost each game's rumor has come from a different source lol.
- Hi-Fi Rush = NatetheHate
- Sea of Thieves = Jeff Grubb
- Starfield = Xbox Era
- Indiana Jones = Tom Warren
- Gears of War = Jeff Grubb
ChuckeRearmed
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The fundamental issue is that Xbox console just does not sell. And with increasing game development prices Game Pass is becoming a money pit where they burn money without receiving much in return. I think it is profitable, but margins are probably low.
You have games that need 6m in sales to break even and then you release them Day 1 in Game Pass. And for what? Considering that users don't buy consoles.
You have games that need 6m in sales to break even and then you release them Day 1 in Game Pass. And for what? Considering that users don't buy consoles.
I am pretty sure there are discussions internally about Day 1 releases on PC at least. It is just that nothing leaks from Sony due to lack of connections.
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Heisenberg007
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Most likely a shadow drop. I believe this event is primarily for shareholders, not the Xbox community / gamers, so no point in letting them know in advance.So are they going to announce when this business update event exactly is?
Or are they going to drop it as a PR in a random moment next week, or is it a video with Phil trying to explain why going multiplatform is a victory for Xbox?
We may get leaks from folks like Tom Warren about the date and timing of the event though.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
"Shadow drop", it's not a games show
It's probably either gonna be a detailed blog post or maybe a 10 minute pre-recorded video message / youtube clip.
RoadHazard
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Why you hate birds?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Which would be exactly what they said back in 2020 (21?) 'case by case basis'.
Heisenberg007
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That's going to be the most likely response anyway. "We will decide case by case." Except then, we will see 9/10 games going multiplatform.
They would want to diffuse the tension now. The best way is to give something semi-positive and then postpone the reality to the future. They aren't going to port everything together anyway. Ports/releases are always spread out, to spread out the revenue and avoid cannibalization. So no point in saying it now that everything will be multiplatform.
They will start with a couple of titles at first (As Dusk Falls, Hi-Fi Rush, Sea of Thieves, etc.). And they'd hope that people would be used to the idea by the time they get to titles like Gears of War, Starfield, Indiana Jones, Halo, etc.
Heisenberg007
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Come on.
He said that about Zenimax Bethesda games. Sea of Thieves is not a Zenimax Bethesda title.
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Gudji
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Especially Jez.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Come on.
Well, you also think it'll be the most likely line so context is kinda irrelevant here
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MisterXDTV
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That's like saying that sooner or later all will be multi...
That's not a real answer, it's avoiding to answer the question
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Panajev2001a
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Which Phil is a master at…
That's their current position already though, at least relatively to Bethesda and Activision stuff. So while it is an appealing option to hide behind PR-fluff it's a card they already played and hence does not warrant a "business update about their future vision".
DJ12
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And we now know that was complete and utter bollocks so why give it an airing.
Is it possible to have a conversation with you that isn't full of disingenuous BS?
MasterCornholio
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"Shadow drop", it's not a games show
Maybe it is. We have to wait and see what happens.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Ironic
I don't think this is going to be a Developer Direct style thing if that's what you're saying.
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HeWhoWalks
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Do like a good chunk of us. I usually avoid ignoring people, but in his case, you will save yourself the needless headache.
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Sushi_Combo
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Phillip K Spencer " We are excited to have PlayStation join the Xbox Family"
DenchDeckard
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I bet this thing will end up being a pretty boring standard message and they get panned for it not being a big showcase next.
MasterCornholio
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No but a discussion about games will be in it. I wouldn't be surprised if they announced which ones are going to other platforms. Assuming the rumors are true of course. Plus a shadow drop of titles on those platforms could be possible.
Humdinger
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"Shadow drop", it's not a games show
Well, it's kind of like E3. I get to hear what is being announced for the PS5 in the future.
Moridianae
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Well, you also think it'll be the most likely line so context is kinda irrelevant here
This dude is such a salty bitch. He made a tweet the other day about FF7R-2 and the "Power of EXCLUSIVITY".
And? It's not on Sony that they've made smart decisions and capitalized on Microsoft's missteps when it comes to JRPGs, etc.
It's not on Sony that the exclusives they've chosen have been much more quality titles than what Microsoft bought out and then shat out(Redfall). It's not on Sony that Halo is a former shadow, or Fable is still lost in the wilderness.
He's been sour grapes from the moment people fought the ABK deal, then when it passed it was all great, until they kicked almost 2000 people to the curb.
He's ridiculous.
thatJohann
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I am expecting the Xbox press release on Tuesday morning.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Well, it's kind of like E3. I get to hear what is being announced for the PS5 in the future.
Phil Spencer might put more first party developed games on PlayStation this year than Sony.
LordCBH
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I get the feeling it’ll be a blog post or press release that leaves people with even more questions.
Heisenberg007
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Nope! It's disingenuous to justify Sea of Thieves' possible port by pointing to that Zenimax "case by case" statement.Well, you also think it'll be the most likely line so context is kinda irrelevant here
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