bigboss370
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totally agree. mcdonalds workers have to work crazy hard.
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Pizza Guy gets 10 dollar tip on $1400 order
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totally agree. mcdonalds workers have to work crazy hard.
Hard work is grafting on a building site not flipping burgers.
I'd rather tip the cooks since they did the actual work. Raise your issues with the pizza or restaurant who pays their employees like shit.
Then again I don't like ordering food to my house.
I used to do deliveries for a home improvement store and often unloaded shit loads of materials to people's homes. I was paid 5 an hour and maybe 10% of the calls gave tips. It was awesome but I totally didn't expect it.
Then again I don't like ordering food to my house.
I used to do deliveries for a home improvement store and often unloaded shit loads of materials to people's homes. I was paid 5 an hour and maybe 10% of the calls gave tips. It was awesome but I totally didn't expect it.
Besides... being a waiter is not hard at all.
You just deliver the food to the customers. Food that a cook did. Now, cook is a hard work. Going from the kitchen to a table with food is not hard work.
Sir_Crocodile
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It's like you didn't even bother reading what he said
Cook makes more than $2 an hour...
Tipping $10 on an order that large is asinine....period.
Where do you live?
There is no signature because the dude probably had to prepay for it over the phone at the time he ordered it.
MemoryHumanity
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I've always found the tipping culture in America to be quite surprising, almost as if drivers and waiters expect/demand tips.
In the UK it's more of a bonus/gesture of goodwill. There is no "15% rule" or whatever.
In the UK it's more of a bonus/gesture of goodwill. There is no "15% rule" or whatever.
That's 10$ more than pizza delivery guys should have anyway. It's their job to deliver the pizza, that's what they're paid for. If you're unhappy that you actually got something extra without doing anything extra, then find a better job.
(Yeah, we don't have tipping culture here and I'm glad we don't)
(Yeah, we don't have tipping culture here and I'm glad we don't)
Ingueferroque
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Because in the UK those people get a normal wage, in the US there are many businesses that do not give their waiters (for example) any wage. They purely make money from tips.
Non-Americans are trying to put some logic in your brain and to help you, citizen of america... We created civilization(s) and have a little more experience about what works in culture.
In another tipping thread, someone tried to explain that if the waiter's salary + his tips < minimal wages, his boss should put the difference. Is it true ? If yes, can the owners be fined ?
We should try to do a list... what countries are actually expecting you to tip a certain percentage for having food brought to your table (not using the quality of the service as a variable) and, by doing it, completing a minimal wage that is not respected by the owner ?
Is it US vs the world ?
"Our system is dumb and broken but you're an asshole if you don't follow it"
I'm curious as well, can we have the answer of a real american like The Adder ?
Same here.
I just usually tell the delivery guys to keep the change (sometimes less than a dollar).
Sounds good. I'll start:
I'm from Mexico. Waiters/waitresses are paid the minimum. Tipping is optional, but the average is 10% if you want to leave tip, not 15%. In most restaurants they charge you extra 10% if there are 8 people in the table.
Same with delivery guys.
In France, we have "service included" printed on the note. We don't deal with the waiter salary. A tip is not expected, but appreciated. It's seen as a reward for good service. You give what you want, some people never tip, some just let the change on the table, some are generous.
The staff usually has to merge the tips from everyone, then share the pot based on your position.
yep. If he seriously was expecting 140$ or more he's out of his mind.
Bumblebeetuna
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Wow I would have been pretty pissed after lugging that many pizzas around. I wonder if the driver was able to do it in one trip. What an asshole that customer was.
YuriLowell
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If you want to charge shitty wages and make it up in tips, you need to add in automatic gratuity.
Joe Shlabotnik
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You'd have poll Americans to see if they would support a mandatory 15% service tax added to all restaurant bills, and whether they would also support nationalized health care, to see if there is any "irony".
Host Samurai
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Id honestly give the guy $25. Delivering pizza is not the same as tipping a waiter/waitress to me at a restaurant
First this wasn't a single person buying these, this was mostly likely a corporation for some kind of party, which makes it worst. If you can afford 1400 dollars in pizza, you can at the very least afford a hundred dollar tip (that's not even 10 percent).
Second of all, the guy had to load all the pizzas into his own car, then take them all to this business, while getting less than minimum wage. That's 85 pizzas into his own personal car. He could have done several more deliveries and got more tips, in the time it would have taken him to do this.
Third of all, most likely you people (the one's against this) have never had to do this kind of work and can't relate. You all are "uni" students that have had life funded by mum/dad. When you actually have to work for a living you'll understand how the treatment of this is wrong.
Second of all, the guy had to load all the pizzas into his own car, then take them all to this business, while getting less than minimum wage. That's 85 pizzas into his own personal car. He could have done several more deliveries and got more tips, in the time it would have taken him to do this.
Third of all, most likely you people (the one's against this) have never had to do this kind of work and can't relate. You all are "uni" students that have had life funded by mum/dad. When you actually have to work for a living you'll understand how the treatment of this is wrong.
The problem I see with percentage tipping is that it doesn't fairly compensate the actual time & work involved. If I order one $15 pizza and tip the driver $3 (20%), I think most reasonable people who live in the US would consider it an average tip and not have much of a problem with it. OTOH, I doubt that even a small minority of the same people would feel that if I order 85 pizzas, a $255 tip is reasonable to expect.
I also think it is a bit unfair how percentage tipping is dependent on the cost of the product. One local pizza place has a $8 large plain pie special M-W, but also has gourmet pies that are $20+. How much less effort is it to deliver the $8 pie? Should the driver be penalized because I ordered the less expensive option?
I also think it is a bit unfair how percentage tipping is dependent on the cost of the product. One local pizza place has a $8 large plain pie special M-W, but also has gourmet pies that are $20+. How much less effort is it to deliver the $8 pie? Should the driver be penalized because I ordered the less expensive option?
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Transhuman
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So he/she loads the Pizzas into the car. 85 pizzas, lets say they could carry 7 or 8 pizzas comfortably. So that's 12-11 trips to the car while loading it up. This is assuming no-one else helped, which given the size of the order, improbable. So he drives to the house/ residence/ building, and carries some of the pizzas to the door, possibly getting a hand with the rest from someone when they answer the door. Yeah, that's a $140-200 job right there. Herculean effort, I don't know how they did it. I mean they practically ran a marathon.
Demographic GAF strikes again.
Omegasquash
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...That's a pretty lame tip. Not saying that there should be a mountain of cash showered here, but $10?
What a dick.
What a dick.
Mr. Blonde
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having worked at papa johns(its almost pizza), i guarantee that at least 80 of them were made sloppily and most likely sucked unless this was some gourmet place charging $20+ per pie
and you probably made $10+/hr in tips am i right?
the only way not to at a place like outback would be if your outback still had weekday lunches and made you work only those mon-thur in which case youd prolly quit pretty soon.
and you probably made $10+/hr in tips am i right?
the only way not to at a place like outback would be if your outback still had weekday lunches and made you work only those mon-thur in which case youd prolly quit pretty soon.
PS3GamerKyle
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That's the most interesting part of this story. I work at a pizza store, and our driver, even with his SUV, I've only seen fit, maximum, about 40 pizzas. 85?? What is this guy driving, a limo?
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Transhuman
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Lets take your estimate and say he made 4 trips. The average tip is like $2, no? They paid $10. So he made 125% what he normally makes.
yeah thats not how it works.
swirlyglasses
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Expecting to be tipped imo is self-entitlement.
Moral Panic
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I highly doubt the guy just called up and said "I want 85 pizzas". Futhermore when he did order the pizzas the store KNEW that it would be effort to create and deliver them, and should've charged him according to that extra cost. Relying on him to decide how much the delivery was worth is silly.
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Transhuman
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So you're saying that even though he did the same amount of work he normally would, they should pay more because tipping is less to do with effort and more to do with "You-spend-money-give-me-money"? Noted.
Why should a delivery boy's tip be related to the total price anyway? He made one trip anyway. At least a waiter in a restaurant would have his work cut out for him waiting on a table which orders 85 pizzas.
Edit: To the people calculating the trips. I used to work at a company with 100 people and the company used to pay for lunch on friday. All the food (not just pizzas) would always be delivered in one car in one trip.
Edit: To the people calculating the trips. I used to work at a company with 100 people and the company used to pay for lunch on friday. All the food (not just pizzas) would always be delivered in one car in one trip.
What? No. Everyone gets his own pizza. Other meals take approximately the same space anyway.
Wait what size pizza are we talking about here? I am honestly not having any trouble imagining transporting 80 pizzas in my car.
FindMyFarms
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Yes, going to a restaurant and providing a revenue stream while shafting the servers is a great way to prove that. *smh* If you disagree with the concept then DON'T GIVE THE ESTABLISHMENT YOUR MONEY.
So everyone gets one slice? I have never seen that, it's usually ~3-4 people per pizza every sponsored event I have been to.
It's not a party, it's just lunch. Here everyone gets their own individual (15-16") pizza. Did you guys calculate that the ones in the OP are large pizzas from the price or something?
I'm an expert
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Pretty sure I'd have given them what I always tip pizza guys, $2. If I could tip the people who actually made the pizza, now that I might do. Might.
OrangeYouGlad
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The argument that servers get paid less is bullshit. Minimum wage across Canada for servers is about $9/hr, only a dollar less than minimum wage for all other work. I'm still expected to tip 15-20%.
I tip when I get good service, but the idea that someone has a pre-defined notion that they're entitled to my money for doing their job is ridiculous.
I tip when I get good service, but the idea that someone has a pre-defined notion that they're entitled to my money for doing their job is ridiculous.
Seriously. All he did was transport the pizzas. Even if he transported 1 or 2 pizzas like I'm guessing he usually does, why does he deserve more just because the bill was more?
Joe Shlabotnik
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Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
Yes, that's exactly what I think. Why would I think any different? I have definitely never seen a pizza driver making a pizza. The idea of that actually makes me reconsider delivery pizza.
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