One can only wonder. I think it will hurt PC2 a lot, though.
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Project CARS | OT | Made by 80.000 slightly mad developers
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Yeah, I can't see PC2 selling anywhere near as well as PC1 did.
That said, my version is (currently) far from broken, and I still play it, alot.
It's 'broken' for me (on PS4) in that the chances are it will crash to dash at least once per two-hour private lobby session, my FFB will often disappear completely when I leave the pits during qualifying (requiring as power cycle of the wheel to get FFB back), I (and others) will hit random land mines, and one or two people will get disconnected from the session. I don't play any single player at all.
So the game is 'playable' if you are willing to put up with the constant issues, but performance is pretty unacceptable in my book.
It's also incredibly frustrating that QA seems nonexistent, with every new patch bringing a whole host of new problems that are instantly obvious the moment you start playing. Patches must be getting released with insufficient testing beforehand.
The 'improvements' to voice chat on PS4 were hilariously awful, for example: chat was significantly and indisputably worse after the patch.
There're lots of problems that are not evident and a lot others that are very random. The worst part is that some problems come and go with every new patch. Even though the situation is better than before, there's no sense of Improving. Every time I read the patch notes, my first thought is: let's see how many of these actually work. It's a really bad situation. A shame, because when it works, it's awesome.
Agreed. When it's working as intended there's no other racing game I'd rather play. My patience is wearing very, very thin at the moment though.
wowbaggerBR
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I have experienced every single bug that you've got, plus some more, by playing single player mostly.
Since I like to run long sessions only, the game is unplayable for me because the longer you play, the most likely it is to got some crash, or gameplay annoyances.
The state of the game in the release, the patches that fails to adress things said to be fixed on the patch notes, the new bugs introduced by every patch, the 'full retard' attitude of some WMD members on the official forums after the waves of angry players complaining, all these things makes me wonder what exactly is the problem: lack of QA? Subpar developers? Code held together by gaffer tape? Or SMS really doesn't care?
And I say that because this isn't the first time they push a broken game that is never fixed. The same thing happened to Shift 2.
I've got a theory that there's some exceedingly talented people at SMS that are being let down by less talented colleagues.
After two Need for Speeds and one Test Drive, they should have got their shit together already.
TJP
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This. Shame too because as people have already noted, when pCARS works, it's a really enjoyable experience.
I wonder how much of this people agree or disagree with: http://pretendracecars.net/2015/11/28/reader-submission-64-project-cars-six-months-later/
wowbaggerBR
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xrnzaaas
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I only play singleplayer and after spending about 80 hours I had four crashes in total. Three of them happened on the same day and rebuilding the database seemed to have solved the problem. Recently I had another crash and it was similiar to one of the ones before, because it occured in the career menu (I was probably changing tabs too fast 
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Oh, and I forgot to mention that I don't participate in that many long events. I've had about a dozen endurance races (LeMans, WEC), but that's it.
).Oh, and I forgot to mention that I don't participate in that many long events. I've had about a dozen endurance races (LeMans, WEC), but that's it.
I don't think that's the case. In my opinion SMS are super talented, but lack both more working class and better directors.
On top of that, their legacy code hasn't been cleaned since forever (they're cleaning a lot for pc2). Add in cross gen development, multiplatform releases and a tight budget while going for a brand new development method and you start to understand how surprising is pc is good as it is.
Holy shit. Don't jinx yourself.
I set up a lobby last night which takes about 20-25 mins of faffing about, sending invites, replying to messages, waiting for people to join, getting everyone into private chat, setting the track/cars/rules etc, setting the FFB, adjusting pit strategy, changing tyre pressures to account for the new aggressively overheating tyre model etc etc etc (TLDR - lots of pre-race faffing, all completely necessary).
The qualifying session starts, I leave the pits, aaaaaand... no FFB. OK. This is fairly normal. A power cycle of the wheel normally fixes it. So I power down the wheel aaaaaand... the game crashes. I shut down, restart, send a message to somebody to invite me back into my own lobby, and finally get back in with most of the qualifying session over.
Then two other people had random disconnects during the race.
This is pretty typical of my experience at the moment, and it is fucking annoying with a capital 'F'.
Really? The official forums seem to disagree.
Managed a relatively stable session last night. FFB got lost at one point but the game didn't crash while power-cycling the wheel to get it back. Problem was we could only get four people interested from a dedicated pCARS friend's list of around forty previously-fanatic players. Seems an awful lot of people have just lost patience with the problems, and it's a crying shame because the on-track action is utterly thrilling - when it works.
We used stock-settings GT4 Ginettas at Silverstone Classic (with the lobby opened up to Joe Public because of our meagre numbers) and had to forego qualifying and pitstops because of the impound bug on this track, but it was still great fun. Shame there's no way to randomise the grid in situations like this though.
After updating to 5.0 and 6.0 I have had no problems anymore.
To be honest, the biggest problem I had had nothing to do with PCars, it was my Fanatec and PC having grounding problems.
After solving that, it all works great.
Spaceman Spiff
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Just saw a WIP shot on the official forums of the C7.R
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xrnzaaas
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Project CARS continues its programme of continual updates and delivery of fresh new content with the release of the Renault Sport Car Pack with Renault Sport R.S.01, Formula Renault 3.5, Mégane R.S. 275 Trophy-R and Mégane Trophy V6.
Renault Sport Car Pack will be available on 22th December.
No Laguna BTCC?
Renault Sport Car Pack will be available on 22th December.
No Laguna BTCC?
Payments for the second part of sales has went through for me.
Nifty little sum
Yup, same for me.
60% of the investment.
Project CARS continues its programme of continual updates and delivery of fresh new content with the release of the Renault Sport Car Pack with Renault Sport R.S.01, Formula Renault 3.5, Mégane R.S. 275 Trophy-R and Mégane Trophy V6.
Renault Sport Car Pack will be available on 22th December.
No Laguna BTCC?
Only 4 cars?
When it all clicks together, there is nothing like PCars.
I totally agree, and that's why the little niggles are so bloody annoying..! Silverstone Classic is a superb racing circuit but we can't use pit stops or qualifying sessions on it in MP because of its current pit bug. So we have to go straight into the race where grid positions are always in the same order (ie how people joined the lobby). There's no grid randomiser that I can find. How daft.
Jamesways
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Just wait until you try the Scottish track!
Still absolutely love it. Wish the road cars were a little less twitchy, but nothing beats the on track GT car experience. On console...
Jamesways
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Ha ha..! What Scottish track? Doesn't exist, never has.
Touche!
I really hope they don't hold it back for pCARS2.
Really? Do you use a controller?
The with this car is, you need two laps warming up the tires before you can really give it a go.
Just got it as well. Especially nice since I have a manager account, but now I have to figure out how to do the tax management.Payments for the second part of sales has went through for me.
Nifty little sum
Yeah, really......
Yeah, controller, it's one of the only cars that I can't seem to lap consistently, the rear end just seems to bust lose randomly.
Nah, it's still coming as evidence by appearing on their Instagram again: https://www.instagram.com/p/-ykGd8TBrW/?taken-by=projectcarsgame
Seems like the initial delay resulted in them having shift it to another DLC set as otherwise it would compromised the schedule of already planned "themed" DLC (and visually it seems to have changed quite a bit).
Yeah, looks nice. I hope the rumours about it now being a P2P track are nothing but bullshit.
P2P tracks suck greasy donkey balls.
PC patch 7.0 release notes are up. Going live 'at any moment'. Edit: live now.
http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?42885-Project-CARS-PC-Patch-7-0-Release-Notes
http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/showthread.php?42885-Project-CARS-PC-Patch-7-0-Release-Notes
I hope not. There is still quite a lot to sort out, on PS4 anyway. Random CtDs, land mines scattered about, disconnects from MP sessions, Godawful chat quality, Silverstone Classic pit nonsense...
Yeah, there is still issues, but I can't imagine them wanting to plough too many more man hours into fixing it this late in the day, I would imagine that PCars 2 in their primary focus.
TJP
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That sucks if the speculation is true!
Issues like Mascot has plus howlers such as getting a new engine when pitting during a race where you've knackered the motor and tyre wear markers that are way out (watched a video where the guy drove 20+ laps with the tyres at 0% life and set fastest lap times) means pCARS needs a few more fixes before SMS move on. PRC had a list of outstanding issues recently too.
Great sim when it all works though 8)
Issues like Mascot has plus howlers such as getting a new engine when pitting during a race where you've knackered the motor and tyre wear markers that are way out (watched a video where the guy drove 20+ laps with the tyres at 0% life and set fastest lap times) means pCARS needs a few more fixes before SMS move on. PRC had a list of outstanding issues recently too.
Great sim when it all works though 8)
AbandonedTrolley
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Partner has bought the G29 wheel for Christmas, looking forward to trying this game with it.
In my opinion PC still needs a lot of patching. I'm alarmed to not see any fix for wheels getting disconnected from session session. Or people in MP dropping from session to session or replays being totally wonky in MP. Basically MP is as basic as it gets.
And for god's sake, give me favorites tab for MP search!
And for god's sake, give me favorites tab for MP search!
Ooh, I forgot about that one. I had it myself a couple of nights ago.
So many bugs to remember it's hard to keep up sometimes.
Somebody said recently in this thread that the PC version has very few issues now, so I'm hoping that's reflected in the relatively sparse patch notes. I'd hazard a guess that the PS4/Bone release notes have richer content.
wowbaggerBR
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Well, I'm happy because I found a fix to every Project CARS issue: I just sold it. As for now, my friends and me are well educated in SMS' ways. We won't fall for Shift 4.
But doesn't surprise me at all seeing that they probably won't fix things. In my opinion, the code is a mess and completely hopeless. They simply can't sort stuff without making matters worse.
But doesn't surprise me at all seeing that they probably won't fix things. In my opinion, the code is a mess and completely hopeless. They simply can't sort stuff without making matters worse.