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PT no longer downloadable in US (and EU/UK) even with license

terrible

Banned
I thought I was going to be safe with it on my download list. Damn. I'm always running out of space so I deleted it ages ago.
 

_woLf

Member
Pretty sure they are leaving the gaming industry so they don't really give a fuck how many bridges they burn

I mean, sure, that's been made pretty clear. But you'd think they'd want to go out quietly, not guns blazing and setting every village and bridge on fire along the way. It's completely unprecedented in the industry.
 
I can see P.T on my download list on the web store (put my PS4 isn't plugged, and I'm at work so I can't remote-download it).

Did they remove it from everyone's download list? I'm in Australia.

It's still downloadable on SCEE (UK/EU/ME/SA/AU/NZ) accounts, so get it ASAP. They'll probably take it down when they update the store in ~10 hours.
 
I mean, sure, that's been made pretty clear. But you'd think they'd want to go out quietly, not guns blazing and setting every village and bridge on fire along the way. It's completely unprecedented in the industry.

Yeah cant say I disagree. They are going full on villian mode. Whatever went down with them and Kojima must have been crazy toxic
 

Nick_C

Member
Konami is so lucky they have mgsV coming out , any other game I wouldn't care

That's the worst part. For the past couple of months they've been spitting in the faces of the people that have put them in the position that they're in today.

Sure, you can argue that they've been doing stuff like this for years, but it has never been on this scale before. They have, in one fell swoop, alienated an entire customer base, and for what?

They make shitty business decisions and people call them out on it. The Konami response? "You guys are mean. I'm taking my toys and bringing them home."

And MGSV will still sell millions of copies at launch.
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
The response is a bit reactionary, but I can kinda see where they're coming from? The project no longer exists and as goofy as PT was it still aimed to be a teaser for Silent Hills. From Konami's perspective stripping it from the store is a means of removing what is essentially incorrect advertising.

Removing future downloads by people who already own it is the reactionary part and doesn't serve much of a point in my opinion. People who have it, have it, and will not do their best not to delete it. People who didn't have it couldn't once it was removed from the store. So...*shrug*.

Gouge it out.

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Thank goodness I decided to finally try it out for myself about a week before all the bad news happened. This is so shitty :/
 
I hope Sony will eventually add the ability to back up downloads to external hard drives because if you decide to upgrade your hard drive as of now, you will lose PT when you put in the new drive.
 
....oh. Well there goes me finally playing it when I get the silver Batman PS4 next month. At least I have a friend who has it.
 

Alo0oy

Banned
People are blaming the "digital future"?

Without the "digital future", there would be no P.T in the first place.
 
The response is a bit reactionary, but I can kinda see where they're coming from? The project no longer exists and as goofy as PT was it still aimed to be a teaser for Silent Hills. From Konami's perspective stripping it from the store is a means of removing what is essentially incorrect advertising.

Removing future downloads by people who already own it is the reactionary part and doesn't serve much of a point in my opinion. People who have it, have it, and will not do their best not to delete it. People who didn't have it couldn't once it was removed from the store. So...*shrug*.

Gouge it out.

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i get it, but i just comes across really, really badly. i sort of understand the mentality of companies that perpetuate the existence of games they aren't even working on. if they really aren't working on silent hills, the confirmation of the game being cancelled and subsequent removal of PT from the store is the "like-a-band-aid" approach of just ripping it off and taking the heat now as opposed to later. still it just comes across as a really, really poor business decision. console games still make them money, but apparently it's not "enough" money. burning bridges with very loyal gamers in is a very poor decision to make in the industry in which your brand is most visible.
 

drotahorror

Member
Yeah I won't be buying anymore full priced games from Konami anymore.

*I buy all games full priced for the most part


Some of the stuff they've pulled lately....straight up scummy.
 
i get it, but i just comes across really, really badly. i sort of understand the mentality of companies that perpetuate the existence of games they aren't even working on. if they really aren't working on silent hills, the confirmation of the game being cancelled and subsequent removal of PT from the store is "like-a-band-aid" approach of just ripping it off and taking the heat now as opposed to later. still it just comes across as a really, really poor business decision. console games still make them money, but apparently it's not "enough" money. burning bridges with very loyal gamers in is a very poor decision to make in the industry in which your brand is most visible.

I honestly don't think Konami cares. I think they're tossing away the core gaming market and going full force on the casino gaming market.
 
its a shame no new people will ever get a chance to play what is sadly the final version of SIlent Hills. thats your digital future btw, even tho you already own it you can't even download it... -_- thts why physical will always be where its at. Good thing I redownloaded PT incase this happened.

Yup, they just keep doing their best to remind people why digital can suck ass.

Edit: Especially potentially purchases of streaming copies of movies. Though I suppose if it were charged for they probably would have to atleast allow previous buyers to be able to re-download, as has generally been the case so far.
 
The response is a bit reactionary, but I can kinda see where they're coming from? The project no longer exists and as goofy as PT was it still aimed to be a teaser for Silent Hills. From Konami's perspective stripping it from the store is a means of removing what is essentially incorrect advertising.

Konami may be run by a bunch of assholes but your point is still spot on in that leaving PT available only creates confusion in the long run.

I hope down the line the source files for PT get smuggled out of Konami HQ-- or someone ends up sorting out how to decrypt it out of the PS4's HDD-- and it ends up floating around torrent sites, eventually allowing the Internet to sort out how to get it up an running on PCs. With Oculus support.
 

MrBS

Member
Oh man my PS4 died on the weekend and I was redownloading stuff to my new PS4 alphabetically. Thanks Konami :p
 

JimPanzer

Member
This should definitely serve as a cautionary tale for anyone looking to go all in on digital purchases.

this get's tossed around way too much. it's not like some major fuckup like this happens every day. plus, konami couldn't do things they are doing now (at least not without consequences) if they would have charged money for P.T.
 
Woah this sucks. I glad I have a copy on my PS4 but it's crazy to think you can't download this anymore. Really hope people can find some way to backup the game.
 
People are blaming the "digital future"?

Without the "digital future", there would be no P.T in the first place.

This would have been a perfectly fine disc-based demo in a magazine.

Could you imagine OPM bundling this, without telling people what it was?
 

Loakum

Banned
Fuck! I have it on my 1TB harddrive, but this Friday my new 2TB hardrive arrives. I don't want to part with this game....fuck!
 

KJRS_1993

Member
This would have been a perfectly fine disc-based demo in a magazine.

Could you imagine OPM bundling this, without telling people what it was?

Nobody reads those things anymore! Not even a third of people would have had the opportunity to try it.
Also, packing in a Blu-Ray? That's gonna be hella expensive.
 

RoadHazard

Gold Member
Konami are welcome to go right out of business now, no need for you anymore. Idiots.

Still have P.T. on my PS4, will try to keep it that way. They can't somehow kill the license for a demo so you can't even start it (like with a PS+ title), right?
 

FyreWulff

Member
Have delisted games ever been removed from "redownload lists" on any of the post-digital-distribution consoles, or is this the first instance?

Yes. The 360 had a few that were pulled even from redownloading.


Offhand, the Doritos game with the Trex and the cars and Yaris were both pulled. Eventually they came back for redownloading, for no apparent reason.
 

KJRS_1993

Member
Non-digital future = print magazines would be thriving still.

Nor would we have any of the nice things that we do now, such as being able to live stream E3 conferences, a huge range of different news sources to read from, news updates as and when they happen rather than weekly / fortnightly...

Let's not be silly mate.
 
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