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[Hot Coldman]

Well there's definitely a chance this is real

LET'S GO

 

[Jagsrock]

This would be such a weird inclusion and I want to say its fake but all the subtle details in this leak make it almost seem plausible.

 

[Smiles and Cries]

pretty good fake if not real

did not want Ubisoft rewarded in anyway tho

 

[AniHawk]

Well we all know where this is heading.

JADE IN SMASH
BEYOND GOOD & EVIL 2 BY NINTENDO

i need bge2 in my life, but space lord michel ancel is working a ps4 game that looks like it's due for 2016.

so it'll be a while. i mean never.

 

[Sterok]

The shadow thing is certainly interesting. And it looks convincing at first glance. Still, some people are very dedicated, so it's far from impossible to fake. I suppose we'll see in the coming months.

 

[BassForever]

Someone want to explain all the HAPPENING reactions to Harker's comment?

 

[Graphics Horse]

Are you Dracula?

:lol

 

[Finale Fireworker]

LET'S GO

WHO IS THIS PERSON AND WHY DOES HIS POST MATTER?

 

[Sponge]

Who is John Harker? Why does his comment matter?

He posted in a Smash thread over a year ago about how Ubisoft was approaching Nintendo about getting Rayman in Smash. Nobody really payed much attention to it until the Rayman trophy was posted as the PoTD much, much later.

 

[ec0ec0]

I'm a reasonable person. With that said, kill him.

 

[Lijik]

I know, but it pretty forced for an official to use always render.

its pretty common on promo art/app icons for the recent games

edit- shit even the eyebrows make sense as a bizarre interpretation of his eye outline

 

[A Link to the Past]

If this is real, I wonder which entered development first - Mewtwo or Rayman?

 

[MrBadger]

Wait, why would a character unlock screen appear for a dlc character? Does that mean you have to fight them to unlock them like normal characters?

Yeah, that's what I think too. When making a fake smash screenshot, that's the easiest thing to make with only a render and nothing else, besides a character select screen. It's possible that this splash screen appears when you boot up the game, but the more likely scenario is that whoever made these wanted to post more than just a fake character select.

 

[Qurupeke]

Someone want to explain all the HAPPENING reactions to Harker's comment?

He knows stuff...

 

[Ryce]

Little Mac, the only representative of his series, isn't grouped with all the other non-clone/non-third party characters.

Everybody likes to pretend there is any rhyme or reason to the Smash roster layout but it only very loosely follows any sort of chronology. Characters are placed arbitrarily in several cases.

Case in point, Little Mac.

Besides the clones randomly thrown in at the end, there is a rhyme and reason to the character select screen. Multi-rep series are grouped chronologically, and the gaps are filled in with one-off series representatives (also chronologically).

Start with Mario at the top left and move through the select screen. Everything's in order.

Mario extended universe (1981)
The Legend of Zelda (1986)
Metroid (1986)
Kid Icarus (1986)
Fire Emblem (1990)
Kirby (1992)
Star Fox (1993)
Pokémon (1996)

Game & Watch (1980)
Punch-Out!! (1984)
Duck Hunt (1984)
R.O.B. (1985)
Mother (1989)
F-Zero (1990)
Animal Crossing (2001)
Pikmin (2001)
Wii Fit (2007)
Xenoblade Chronicles (2010)

Pac-Man (1980)
Mega Man (1987)
Sonic (1991)

 

[Richie]

If that's actually something that occurred then I really don't understand how Sakurai comes to some of these conclusions when it comes to who would fit and who wouldn't...
I mean, Smash a series that lets the player fight as a black stick figure from an ancient line of (relatively) obscure primitive handheld devices from the second generation...
It also "stars"a yoga mannequin from a blue ocean casual-centric non-combat oriented fitness series as a playable fighter...


How wouldn't a fantasy platform character who can shoot his fist, shrink himself, fly with his hair, and fire energy beams not fit in Smash?
I mean...as an artist I think it's bunk to assert that he wouldn't work aesthetically next to Super Mario, Pikachu, Toon Link or Sonic...and as a creative person who's a fan of the Rayman series I'd imagine it wouldn't be too hard to come up with a unique and engaging moveset for him.

Can't blame Sakurai for being especially picky when it comes to 3rd party characters, though. Nintendo owned ones are already "part of the family" so to speak, with guests I can see how he'd have to devote much more serious thought.

 

[DecoReturns]

Sakurai can't even keep DLC secret, damn he must be pissed, assuming its real

 

[Roo]

If this is real, I wonder which entered development first - Mewtwo or Rayman?

There were plans to include Rayman before the game launched so I'd say Rayman was first.

 

[D-Man]

I kinda think this is fake, but the more I look at it, the more I'm starting to think that it's legit. I loved Rayman Origins and Legends, so I wouldn't be against the idea of having the dude in Smash Bros.

Okay, let's say, for the sake of of this fantasy, that the leak is real.

This would have to be the reveal music.

Asides from having war flashbacks from those levels, I would love it if they chose that song for the reveal. It would fit very well.

 

[dancrane212]

Fix the eyebrows and I'll buy the amiibo.

 

[Sponge]

Btw, Here is the page where Harker told us Ubisoft approached Sakurai.

 

[Hot Coldman]

If this is real, I wonder which entered development first - Mewtwo or Rayman?

Mewtwo probably. I think he's not coming as soon as he was originally intended to, and I think Rayman becoming a thing might be why.

Like, at this point I wouldn't be surprised if their DLC plan has become more akin to Mario Kart 8 than what appeared to be just "yeah sure, fuck it, you can have Mewtwo too"

 

[AcademicSaucer]

Please Bamco, your guys are developing the game , Im sure you can make it happen

 

[NotLiquid]

He posted in a Smash thread over a year ago about how Ubisoft was approaching Nintendo about getting Rayman in Smash. Nobody really payed much attention to it until the Rayman trophy was posted as the PoTD much, much later.

He also explicitly teased that Rayman Legends would lose it's exclusivity a day or so before the news dropped and when IGN were talking about an "interesting" Wii U-related announcement.

He definitely doesn't make things up as they go along.

 

[silenttwn]

taken from the 4chan thread...

??

Rayman is a vampire in Smash confirmed?

 

[Finale Fireworker]

Besides the clones randomly thrown in at the end, there is a rhyme and reason to the character select screen. Multi-rep series are grouped chronologically, and the gaps are filled in with one-off series representatives (also chronologically).

Start with Mario at the top left and move through the select screen. Everything's in order.

Mario extended universe (1981)
The Legend of Zelda (1986)
Metroid (1986)
Kid Icarus (1986)
Fire Emblem (1990)
Kirby (1992)
Star Fox (1993)
Pokémon (1996)

Game & Watch (1980)
Punch-Out!! (1984)
Duck Hunt (1984)
R.O.B. (1985)
Mother (1989)
F-Zero (1990)
Animal Crossing (2001)
Pikmin (2001)
Wii Fit (2007)
Xenoblade Chronicles (2010)

Pac-Man (1980)
Mega Man (1987)
Sonic (1991)

You are correct and I withdraw my comment.

 

[A Link to the Past]

Mewtwo probably. I think he's not coming as soon as he was originally intended to, and I think Rayman becoming a thing might be why.

Like, at this point I wouldn't be surprised if their DLC plan has become more akin to Mario Kart 8 than what appeared to be just "yeah sure, fuck it, you can have Mewtwo too"

I could see that.

Gosh I hope they add Tingle.

 

[Diprosalic]

i would hate this so much.

 

[Armigr]

Please Bamco, your guys are developing the game , Im sure you can make it happen

You have no idea how happy that would make me!

 

[Greenzxy]

Alright, I think it's about time we start the avatar bets.

 

[Chezzymann]

I'm with #Teamreal

 

[Rean]

How would Rayman even work in Smash? His limbs aren't even attached to his body. They could make him like Rosalina but instead of Luma its his hand and feet I guess.

 

[Gonzo The Great]

The render looks ridiculously good. I'm betting this is legit.

 

[nckillthegrimace]

Well there's definitely a chance this is real

I hope this is just the first step and not the entirety of Nintendo's support for the game. Because Rayman isn't exactly the most exciting character.

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

i would hate this so much.

Why?

 

[balladofwindfishes]

Besides the clones randomly thrown in at the end, there is a rhyme and reason to the character select screen. Multi-rep series are grouped chronologically, and the gaps are filled in with one-off series representatives (also chronologically).

Start with Mario at the top left and move through the select screen. Everything's in order.

Mario extended universe (1981)
The Legend of Zelda (1986)
Metroid (1986)
Kid Icarus (1986)
Fire Emblem (1990)
Kirby (1992)
Star Fox (1993)
Pokémon (1996)

Game & Watch (1980)
Punch-Out!! (1984)
Duck Hunt (1984)
R.O.B. (1985)
Mother (1989)
F-Zero (1990)
Animal Crossing (2001)
Pikmin (2001)
Wii Fit (2007)
Xenoblade Chronicles (2010)

Pac-Man (1980)
Mega Man (1987)
Sonic (1991)

This is why either they move Doc, or they break this order. There isn't really another solution, given the image showed where ROB and Duck Hunt were.

How would Rayman even work in Smash? His limbs aren't even attached to his body. They could make him like Rosalina but instead of Luma its his hand and feet I guess.

Sukapon, a Nintendo character with a similar gimmick, was considered for Brawl, so maybe they're using the ideas from that old character design for Rayman.

 

[JB-the-Hunter]

Besides the clones randomly thrown in at the end, there is a rhyme and reason to the character select screen. Multi-rep series are grouped chronologically, and the gaps are filled in with one-off series representatives (also chronologically).

Start with Mario at the top left and move through the select screen. Everything's in order.

Mario extended universe (1981)
The Legend of Zelda (1986)
Metroid (1986)
Kid Icarus (1986)
Fire Emblem (1990)
Kirby (1992)
Star Fox (1993)
Pokémon (1996)

Game & Watch (1980)
Punch-Out!! (1984)
Duck Hunt (1984)
R.O.B. (1985)
Mother (1989)
F-Zero (1990)
Animal Crossing (2001)
Pikmin (2001)
Wii Fit (2007)
Xenoblade Chronicles (2010)

Pac-Man (1980)
Mega Man (1987)
Sonic (1991)
*Rayman (1995)

Rayman's position on the character select screen checks out.

 

[WiiRevolution1]

I dunno seems like it could be real, having Rayman in the game just as a trophy for no reason always seemed extremely bizarre.

Captain Video confirmed as DLC!

Spoiler

I'm ok with it.

I always thought Rayman would be a great third party addition but with Nintedo's and Ubisoft's falling out didn't think it would happen. Will be interesting to see if its real or not. It certainly looks real to me (along with the Mewtwo.)

 

[Diprosalic]

Why?

because he's an incredibly ugly character and i never liked his games that much.

 

[The Bankslammer]

can't believe the guy forgot to take a picture of chorus kids on the character select screen

they should really be more careful

 

[Hot Coldman]

How would Rayman even work in Smash? His limbs aren't even attached to his body. They could make him like Rosalina but instead of Luma its his hand and feet I guess.

 

[sappyday]

I believe it. People thought the original leak was fake and look how that turned out. This is real no doubt about it.

 

[ec0ec0]

#TeamFake

 

[JazzmanZ]

Sakurai can't even keep DLC secret, damn he must be pissed, assuming its real

I imagine if this is real, the leak is coming from someone on ubisofts side.

 

[A Link to the Past]

How would Rayman even work in Smash? His limbs aren't even attached to his body. They could make him like Rosalina but instead of Luma its his hand and feet I guess.

With respect, I don't see the issue here. :v I could see it being an issue if, say, there were technical issues with respect to how his hands and feet work, but in terms of playing as him or fighting him, I don't understand.

 

[CreeperBlocks]

What would Rayman's Attacks be? something with the Rabbits?

 

[mktrOOp]

I think it's fake, because it would be a big joke to make Rayman a playable character after the Rayman Legends betrayal.

 

[PeakPointMatrix]

guys is this real

 

[GamerJM]

Btw, Here is the page where Harker told us Ubisoft approached Sakurai.

From that topic,
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=107323529&postcount=1580

Maybe Sakurai told Ubisoft Rayman was going to be in but at the last minute delayed him to 2015.

 

[Yaphett Kotto]

the plot thickens
we better get some sweet music and a good stage or two.

I'm not holding my breath for that when they did a terrible job with the stage selection for Sonic and his music. I kinda have the same feelings about Pokemon too. Could've been much better.