DarkLordMalik
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You shouldn't play it if there is no sequel. The ending is such a cock tease
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Ready at Dawn (TO 1886) self-publishing its games, hires Paul Sams (Blizzard) as CEO
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IcyBlueStrawberry
Member
I wanted to play The Order: 1887, but alas that dream is gone.
FunkyDealer
Banned
One step closer to an NX exclusive God of War clone.
Darkstorne
Member
Unannounced platform - my gut is saying it has something to do with Amazon. Those guys have a lot going on behind closed doors, and investing insane amounts of cash into gaming right now.
m_shortpants
Member
I can imagine Sony not being very pleased at the reactions to 1886 :/
Hope the tech remains though.
Hope the tech remains though.
SprachBrooks
Member
Fuck! I was hoping for a The Order:1886 sequelmaybe Sony will hire another developer to work on it.
I'm deluded.
drotahorror
Member
Didn't know what transmedia was until I looked it up, but yeah I'd love to see them do something else. The Order was ok, would buy from them again.
-tetsuo-
Unlimited Capacity
What was ever shown about this that made you think that? Super heavy focus on story and cinematics while not having multiplayer.
Were you expecting them to patch the title and make it actually Sony's Gears of War or something? I'm not sure I follow why this news would suddenly take the game off your "games I might play sometime" list.
Insane Metal
Member
Dayum. Not that we didn't know, but saying that what they achieved with The Order could be done on XB1 surely hurts fanboys.
Also, kinda unexpected (the announcement)? Another secret platform... hm.
Also, kinda unexpected (the announcement)? Another secret platform... hm.
They're expanding, have multiple projects in the works, found an investor or two, lots of ideas and things going on at the studio. Self-publishing was always a goal, I'm happy for them. They'll have a small game here or there but that's not to say they're not working on larger scale projects as well
Yeah this is the best outcome out of that saga - in a way.
Probably because someone came out with "This is better than Gears" some days before the release. Can't remember if he was from here.
Dayum. Not that we didn't know, but saying that what they achieved with The Order could be done on XB1 surely hurts fanboys.
Also, kinda unexpected (the announcement)? Another secret platform... hm.
Wanted to say you're wrong, but then I saw your tag, yikes.
Someone already beat you to it, unfortunately.
crazysapertonight
Member
Great.. The Order 1886 looks pretty good, I really want to see full potential of their engine on PC
Dayum. Not that we didn't know, but saying that what they achieved with The Order could be done on XB1 surely hurts fanboys.
Also, kinda unexpected (the announcement)? Another secret platform... hm.
I guess I shouldn't feed the Troll - but it would be interesting to see the size of the black bars on XB1. Course on PC - no black bars!
BobTheFork
Member
Never followed The Order or saw much. I only caught the flack after release. Maybe it's a good time to try it cheap.
AmaterasuOni
Banned
Meh! No The Order sequel. Damn you Sony. It had huge potential.
Chobel
Member
They're expanding, have multiple projects in the works, found an investor or two, lots of ideas and things going on at the studio. Self-publishing was always a goal, I'm happy for them. They'll have a small game here or there but that's not to say they're not working on larger scale projects as well
Please tell me they aren't doing F2P stuff.
I hope it's something that woops the ps4 and xbox in performance and then I'm there day one if it's due out soon
Patapwn
Member
The first one had huge potential too...
Good to see both parties (or at least sony) realize that the order failed and move onto different things. Ryse should have clued them in but by then it was probably too late
The_Buttman
Banned
Do movie theatres count as platforms?
pixelation
Member
I wonder what compromises they'd have to make to get The Order engine running on the XBO, and if maybe they'll make a deal with MS for an exclusive game like Insomniac did (that allows them to keep IP).
Dictator93
Member
Really well.
Miles Quaritch
Member
And so we bid The Order farewall. It's a shame, but perhaps RaD will find more success this way.
I can't wait to see what they put out next.
I can't wait to see what they put out next.
I just don't see that line of thinking. I mean as a Sony fan i suppose you could see it as losing out on exclusive partnership with these studios. But the reality is that both these studios are 3rd party studios who have not been acquired by Sony and are at the point where they can branch out and strengthen their position as a studio independent from any one manufacturer. Neither studio appears to have cut ties, or are no longer willing to work with Sony.
Insane Metal
Member
lol this is a great post.
thelastword
Banned
I think Sony can still buy them if they want to.
That wouldn't be a smart investment. Sony foster great content but they have every right to pull the plug if something doesn't work out. Potential is one thing but fact is another, and the fact is RAD failed to deliver.
thelastword
Banned
I know business is business but 1886 was not a catastrophical failure and RAD has always had solid efforts one way or another. At least people know now what the PS4 can do graphically, that has to count for something.
I don't have figures for 1886's sales but if anything is stopping Sony from investing in them further that must be it. I do think they deserve another chance though. It was their first stab at their own creative product, surely they've learnt from the complaints made. But yeah, money don't grow on trees.
The only thing RAD showed imo is how many sacrifices and how linear a game has to become in order to accommodate stellar graphics. The graphics were amazing but that lead to more issues like reflections in mirrors not being present and the sterile look of some of the environments like the many warehouses.
About the game not being a huge failure well it depends on how you look at it. Realistically I can't see it being anything else but a huge failure simply because of the time and effort put in including engine creation and such.
7DollarHagane
Banned
I don't see this ending well. Transmedia is a bad word in the history of games developers.
King Beyond the wall
Member
The Order remains the biggest waste of potential so far this gen.
It could have been something truly great - steam punk Victorian London with crazy guns designed by Nicola tesla hunting beasts and monsters throughout the city. Fighting werewolves at Westminster, chasing Mr Hyde around Whitehall and shooting down gargoyles off of Big Ben.
Instead we got an ultra-cinematic game which didn't even do this cinematic aspect particularly well, poorly written and paced with a story that fell to pieces as it went on.
RaD took the wrong route with the game, and I always think of Lafayette when he says near the start 'couldn't our time be better spent elsewhere?'. Yes it could.
Saying this there is potential for the franchise if they were to reboot it in the way I described above.
It could have been something truly great - steam punk Victorian London with crazy guns designed by Nicola tesla hunting beasts and monsters throughout the city. Fighting werewolves at Westminster, chasing Mr Hyde around Whitehall and shooting down gargoyles off of Big Ben.
Instead we got an ultra-cinematic game which didn't even do this cinematic aspect particularly well, poorly written and paced with a story that fell to pieces as it went on.
RaD took the wrong route with the game, and I always think of Lafayette when he says near the start 'couldn't our time be better spent elsewhere?'. Yes it could.
Saying this there is potential for the franchise if they were to reboot it in the way I described above.
Yeah The Order definitely is wasted potential. The bare minimum I wanted was a gameplay realisation of the original trailer reveal. Fighting werewolves in the open while they run, climb and jump. Using all manor of the wild firearms and chasing down wrewolves around London. Was I asking too much? They gave me a bit of that feel near the beginning but alas it was scripted and pointless.
King Beyond the wall
Member
The best and most exciting part of the game for me was chasing the Lycan through the streets with the lighting gun. This must have been no more than 20 minutes in.
I mentioned that and it was a completely scripted scene. Exciting first time I guess, still felt scripted off the bat because no matter where you aimed the lightening gun in the beginning of that chase it would still break open the gate, letting you know this the way you have to go, and this is when you can kill the beast at the end of the chase. Nothing dynamic.
The best parts of The Order for me, besides the visuals and art direction, are the gunplay and the attention to detail of the world. Linear or not, the city streets, buildings, rooms, halls, airship interiors, shop exteriors, caves, dockyards and so on, were insanely well realised. As in, completely believable, unlike most games where everything has a gamey repetitive falseness about it. And the gunplay or feel of (most of) the weapons, fantastic. Weighty, punchy, powerful, with lots of kickback and a good amount of feedback. If the arena designs and AI were more accomplished, it could have been special. Problem was there simply weren't enough gunfights, and many of the ones there were, were too simplistic in terms of enemy encounters.
texhnolyze
Banned
So what's their problem with Sony?
They didn't reach the target sale number?
They didn't reach the target sale number?