SOCOM on PS2 had voice chat. A 17 year old console with 32MB of RAM. In a time when internet connection sucked.
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Reggie: Switch matchmaking and lobbies handled through phone app
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Mihael Mello Keehl
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How much ram is the switch using or allocated to OS? I think you tech guys shouldve figured this out by now or something
Baleoce
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Say you're out and about. You're at a wifi hotspot in a cafe or whatever. You have your switch, your Bluetooth headset and your phone. You want to play online. So you go onto the app and join a lobby or party chat.
What I don't get is this bit now. How can you listen to both the game audio feed from the switch, and party chat on your phone at the same time through one headset? Would your phone actually connect to your switch somehow and stream over the chat, or would it literally just send data from the phone to the switch telling it what lobby to join or which friend to party chat with, meaning you'd have one audio feed.
I'm getting confused just talking about it.
What I don't get is this bit now. How can you listen to both the game audio feed from the switch, and party chat on your phone at the same time through one headset? Would your phone actually connect to your switch somehow and stream over the chat, or would it literally just send data from the phone to the switch telling it what lobby to join or which friend to party chat with, meaning you'd have one audio feed.
I'm getting confused just talking about it.
..but is it just for voice chat?
I mean the way they are making it sound is you'll need a smartphone even if you want basic online like the Wii U/3DS.
Nintendo's old online is looking pretty damn good to me right now.
I want to agree with you, but this is Nintendo and it doesn't help with Reggie saying this shit.
Seriously they are going to be charging people for this. If you can't match make, chat or handle lobbies on the console itself. I'm sorry but that's complete shit.
Nintendo needs to get out of it's bubble.
Audioboxer
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"All our mainline games are pretty much turning into smartphone games, so let's get the kids to bug the parents for smartphones and get them hooked early".
Knowing Nintendo business decision making it probably was some dumb ass exec saying this can help the mobile division of gaming. As in the paid for Nintendo app is probably going to have advertisements for all the mobile games...
I can partly see their mentally with this but it's just too insane to believe
I simply can't believe this is true. The article and Nintendo says the app launches this summer but bomberman is launch with online play and Mario Kart is April with online play. So of course why Switch can do all online functions by itself because online games are already confirmed to be on Switch before the app is scheduled to launch.
Blackthorn
"hello?" "this is vagina"
Of all the stupid Switch decisions that have annoyed me, I'm ok with this one. It may even be a selling point for parents worried about the device itself being a gateway to assholes.
Zombie James
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The Xbox from 2001 was capable of this.
30yearsofhurt
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Nintendo gonna Nintendo
I may use my phone to add a supplementary experience but not to add as a primary function.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
The worst part is he describe it as a handheld yet market as a home console.
I hope this thread get 100 pages for visibility
I hope this thread get 100 pages for visibility
As dumb as this sounds it might be interesting in that say you setup a lobby for a game of Splatoon, but there aren't enough people to play immediately. With this app you then might be able to keep playing your single player game or whatever and just let your phone turn off and then when you have a full 8 people joined up you'll get a notification and you can launch the game from there.
So instead of sitting in a lobby waiting for people to come in and join your game you can just setup something on your phone and go about your business until others are actually ready.
Best case scenario. Which kind of still sounds like convoluted shit for that ability.
So instead of sitting in a lobby waiting for people to come in and join your game you can just setup something on your phone and go about your business until others are actually ready.
Best case scenario. Which kind of still sounds like convoluted shit for that ability.
backflip10019
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What reality is Nintendo living in that this is their solution to online chat? Has anyone at that company used the internet in the past 15 years?
Mentosrock
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Matchmaking and Lobbies through a phone? I thought the voice chat thing was bad. How are they really going to try and convince people that the matchmaking and lobby thing is more convenient than pressing a button in the game you're already playing?
It sounds like they couldn't include the headset, so they had to find other things to tack into an app to spin this into a feature.
It sounds like they couldn't include the headset, so they had to find other things to tack into an app to spin this into a feature.
I get what they are thinking of but I wonder if this really is the case for younger GAF members.
Personally I don't have unlimited data so the idea of using voice chat through my phone is a deal breaker. I can't imagine Nintendo requiring the phone to chat but I do imagine they are requiring it for authentication. If that's the case that specifically isn't a problem. At this point you rarely see anyone away from their phone anywhere. Our phones are an extension of ourselves so it's a great way with their logic in making sure our IDs are verified and it takes more effort to set up friends lists because we would be sharing our Real IDs.
When Blizzard tried to make Real IDs mandatory I was against this as well. I prefer some anonymity because of random pick up games and the backlash which forced them to change their implementation makes it clear a lot of people feel the same way.
Lobbies working through the phone isn't a problem but it's lame if they only exist on our phones. I like the personal touch of in game lobbies on a big screen. It won't be the same if it is all done through a phone. So we have to know if this is only for authentication purposes only.
There are too many unknown factors about matchmaking through our phone. I wish this wasn't mentioned until they were ready to provide broad details on their intentions. This was a dumb announcement.
Personally I don't have unlimited data so the idea of using voice chat through my phone is a deal breaker. I can't imagine Nintendo requiring the phone to chat but I do imagine they are requiring it for authentication. If that's the case that specifically isn't a problem. At this point you rarely see anyone away from their phone anywhere. Our phones are an extension of ourselves so it's a great way with their logic in making sure our IDs are verified and it takes more effort to set up friends lists because we would be sharing our Real IDs.
When Blizzard tried to make Real IDs mandatory I was against this as well. I prefer some anonymity because of random pick up games and the backlash which forced them to change their implementation makes it clear a lot of people feel the same way.
Lobbies working through the phone isn't a problem but it's lame if they only exist on our phones. I like the personal touch of in game lobbies on a big screen. It won't be the same if it is all done through a phone. So we have to know if this is only for authentication purposes only.
There are too many unknown factors about matchmaking through our phone. I wish this wasn't mentioned until they were ready to provide broad details on their intentions. This was a dumb announcement.
Vital Tundra
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Wait you have to use the app to matchmake into a game? So I can't just go into Splatoon solo and play with randoms? Or is this the only thing when with a party. I cant believe the former to be true.
PSFan
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You won't need to use a phone on the couch. I'm sure the app will run on tablets as well, so you can use that when at home.
*snicker*
hydrophilic attack
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surely matchmaking on a phone app is too dumb even for nintendo
Please stop talking about RAM and the system resources. It's been said that the fucking Xbox and PS2 had voice chat, more than a decade ago.
Stallion Dan
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Ha...Ha......Ha?
Matchmaking through phone. I got no words...
Matchmaking through phone. I got no words...
Everyone voice chats on the One/PS4. They just do it in party chat.
Smiles and Cries
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I think I'll wait and see what the full features are before I complain
I feel this is Nintendo's whole new account system, that will not be tied to the hardware. I can't really answer why they went this way but I still think it will help more than harm.
I understand why people are rejecting it, but at least wait for the details.
A better argument against this app service is what if you don't have a smart device?
What then? At least this way you can say details of what it features does not matter if you cannot access the service.
Why can't they let you create a private voice lobby on the console? Why can't you voice chat on the console? That literally makes no sense. Like i said. They want people to pay for this and so far. From everything we've heard. What they are offering is much less than what they'r competitors offer.
TLZ
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In my case and IMO, I think it's a very good idea. As an adult I use my PS messaging app on my phone to chat with my friends. I find it much easier and quicker.
For the kids though I'm not sure it's the case? I don't know how many kids have smart phones so it may not be as easy for them as it is for adults.
For the kids though I'm not sure it's the case? I don't know how many kids have smart phones so it may not be as easy for them as it is for adults.
LordRaptor
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You move your 'always online' requirements to the device you have with you that is always on and built specifically for messaging and communications, you decouple your social functions to a platform agnostic device that already has access to a list of your real world contacts and friends and can populate your friends list accordingly, you have a somewhat persistent ID for users so that problematic users can be identified and persistently banned at a more inconvenient level than buying a new console or creating a new username, and you are future proofed against having to recreate all of those social links in future, as you already have a device independent list that would let users of future hardware communicate with users of future IOS or android software.
The practicalities of seamlessly integrating your phone with a seperate device I have no idea how they would handle. Ideally, it would be something as simple as pairing your Switch with your phone by tapping your phones NFC with the Switches, and letting all those features be slaved into the game accordingly. Or even automatically letting you use your phone as a limited wifi hotspot when enabled.
The devils in the details though.
Conceptually its not stupid, especially if it is intended as their basis for all future social features.
Joe Shlabotnik
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This seems like the explanation that makes the most "sense", in that it doesn't really make sense but it is self-consistent, at least. Completely silo-ing off personal communication from kids.
I think the reasoning is that it can accommodate all use cases. You can chat on the couch, tablet, or handheld mode, you can chat with a pro controller, left joycon, right joycon, or touchscreen only. You could theoretically add this to 3ds games using the same app. You support current bluetooth standards, future bluetooth standards, 3.5mm, or even lightning earbuds.
There's no worry that
Internet is almost essential at this point in time. Smartphones aren't. And a lot of people just have cheap or old smartphones. There'll probably be people locked out because their phone is too old to support the app. Besides, internet isn't as big of an investment as buying a smartphone.
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