Strickland
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So I gotta have my phone charged and next to me and dedicate it to the freaking online system???
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Reggie: Switch matchmaking and lobbies handled through phone app
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Comfort Jones
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Nintendo genuinely baffles me. Sterling is absolutely on the money when he talks about "Nintendo moves", moves so fucking daft it's like you can't tell if it's coming from a place of stupidity or arrogance. This is indefensibly dull.
Wait.. how is this UI going to work?
In games, the flow is understood. You select multiplayer or whatever, then it puts you in games, select modes.
on Switch, do they expect people to just select multiplayer and then "Please launch the Switch app" pops up? or you hit a button on the phone and it suddenly rips you out of where you are to a multiplayer lobby?.. which you could trigger with an in-game button press anyway?
In games, the flow is understood. You select multiplayer or whatever, then it puts you in games, select modes.
on Switch, do they expect people to just select multiplayer and then "Please launch the Switch app" pops up? or you hit a button on the phone and it suddenly rips you out of where you are to a multiplayer lobby?.. which you could trigger with an in-game button press anyway?
Chie Satonaka
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I just can't cosign this.
It sounds like a bad idea. I don't understand why you'd need two devices. That's not convenient.
It sounds like a bad idea. I don't understand why you'd need two devices. That's not convenient.
CoconutTank
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Uh.... surely it should still be possible to set up squads and private lobbies in Splatoon 2 like how it's done in Splatoon 1 right? The communication at present seems terrible, but I'm hoping that the Switch phone app is meant to be a companion app, not the primary/only means of matchmaking and creating lobbies.
Seriously. The last thing they need is confusion about their product. That's what happen with the Wii U and look how that ended up...
Which would make sense, if this was a handheld. It's not and 99% of the people will play online from home.
Dash_Riprock
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The Switch launches in only 6 weeks right?
How in the FUCK are they just dropping this on us now? What a clusterfuck...
Razgriz-Specter
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The Nintendo extreme hardcore fans defend anything ,eat it up and are the extremely vocal minority.
They have a set audience that will pat them on the back for every mistake.
And as bad as the Wii U is or Switch could every potentially be, you have people like me who would literally buy either system because it has the next Zelda.
Relaxed Muscle
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This is just silly, and the reasoning given is even more silly.
Yeah I have a flip phone and an iPad.
metalslimer
Member
They are so fucking dumb.
SpideySenses
Member
If matchmaking is phone app only, I'm out. What the fuck Nintendo.
Exactly. The app is fine for tethering when out, but at home it should be the same as every other system including wii u
julesodies
Member
So other peoples voice chat will come out of the Switch or your app? And what if you do have headphones for your switch, do you need one too for your smartphone?
Such a weird idea, dont trust Nintendo to flesh this out wisely
Such a weird idea, dont trust Nintendo to flesh this out wisely
isaacnukem
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That makes sense. Thanks!
Yeah, none of this cryptic shit, it's making gaf more insufferable than usual.
Just shut your goddamn mouth, Reggie
All Possible Ways
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An elegant solution....
Audioboxer
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*conspiracy hat*
Nintendo's new policy seems to be remove everything from the 3DS in the Switch that has ever been used to hack in homebrew.... Fear of browserhax!!111
Basically with this barricade everything behind a smartphone app as well so nothing is ran on the console lol. Dat locked down console.
Or Nintendo are just batshit insane and so out of touch.
You use the phone for online features. Nothing more needs to be said. No amount of details or dropping the price to $0 is going to make that acceptable in any way.
SuperSonic1305
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This can't be real. I need a subscription and a phone to play online?
facetheslayer92
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We had matchmaking and lobbies on the original Xbox......
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
I'm not sure what's funnier, the thought of Reggie's own internal dialogue about all the shit he is having to spin, or the poor fools trying *somehow* to see a positive in this.
It's okay guys, sometimes a company makes mistakes, it's OK to admit that, it's not innovation, it's not an interesting alternative to the competition, it's a shitshow sold as something good, accept it and hope that sometime in the future they hire someone with an ounce of sense.
Poor Reggie, I can only imagine the screams going on in his head.
It's okay guys, sometimes a company makes mistakes, it's OK to admit that, it's not innovation, it's not an interesting alternative to the competition, it's a shitshow sold as something good, accept it and hope that sometime in the future they hire someone with an ounce of sense.
Poor Reggie, I can only imagine the screams going on in his head.
Movalpolos
Banned
What a twist!
No you have to pay for online service and then the app is free to use.
This is kinda weird to me but if they're allowing lobbies and shit it could be kinda cool? It better be good but I'm willing to give it a shot I guess. I don't even play Nintendo games online since they suck.
Is it gonna be just iOS? Will it be on android?
Can you use your phone as a hotspot for the switch with it? If so that would be badass
Lol
sir_bumble_bee
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I get the feeling the Switch's UI is extremely barebones in order to maximize resources for games, thus... here we are
TheSpoiler
Member
Well, that's you, personally, but I doubt Splatoon was sold on its single player.
And people keep downplaying Nintendo's online efforts when they themselves are making a massive charge to that area by including a fee for it.
Their online base is no longer old dudes who wanna just play single player all day. It's a collection of people, they've realized it and the community is pretty invested in online gaming. I don't know how anyone can pretend like it's not part of any console's ecosystem anymore.
Lightning_Roller
Banned
This. The hell are you smoking, Nintendo?!
Dark Cloud
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100% this
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
It just keeps getting worse. Somehow? Like... you have to really go out of your way to make a fucked up 'solution' like this.
The really big questions are still:
- Is there a way to mux game audio and voice chat through the phone?
- How does the Switch connect to the phone? And most importantly does it directly connect to the phone or does it have to connect via the Internet. Because that would be least elegant solution to online ever.
- Is there a way to mux game audio and voice chat through the phone?
- How does the Switch connect to the phone? And most importantly does it directly connect to the phone or does it have to connect via the Internet. Because that would be least elegant solution to online ever.
The answer he gave is completely nonsensical because anything you can do in this regard on a smartphone you could do natively if they wanted.
Smiles and Cries
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People wanted Nintendo to go Mobile this is a smart way to get mobile users to interact with Nintendo Hardware IMO
everyone thinking this is bad idea are not thinking of the possible ways this can tie in to Nintendo's mobile titles in the future. Hopefully Nintendo is thinking things through
everyone thinking this is bad idea are not thinking of the possible ways this can tie in to Nintendo's mobile titles in the future. Hopefully Nintendo is thinking things through
Ah cool, so in addition to buying the console and paying for their online service, I also have to pay more to ATT to be able to set up my hotspot and tether to another device. How convenient!
isaacnukem
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Your first paragraph though is a thing of the past, the way the 360 and PS3 did. If it will do your second paragraph, then that's awesome.
CrazyHorse
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It's probably because the Switch wont have Internet connectivity? So they needed a solution?
Xdrive05
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Truth.
They need to explain this online app like right fucking now. Who knows. Maybe it works well and provides something you can't get otherwise.
How the fuck do devs make their games work online then? Do they have to interface with this app thing too? How does that work with multiplats?
but if you are in a hotspot, why can't the system do those things? its connected to the net to play games online. why not the other stuff? It makes no sense. sure there are bulky gaming headsets, but there are also small headsets(you know similar to the ones people use on their phones). I just don't understand this decision.
Have you guys considered that they don't want to have these features become standard, and they are actively trying to tank the notion right out of the gate? Maybe they don't want the responsibility of having to learn, pay the fees for, and maintain any of this? Not only that, if these features become standard, then they have to implement them in all things. And take the creativity outside of the sandbox. They'll also having to officially compete with every other service out there that does it better, across all formats, and include all of the features and programs that we use elsewhere that they can't oversee. They can't control that message. Doesn't make their walled garden look so pristine.
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