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Republican Debate 12 [CNN] Ru-Bi-Oh! It's time to d-d-d-d-dddddd-drop out

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Makai

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Drumpf has been a registered Republican many more years than Democrat. He has given I think twice as much to Republicans over the years as well.
Are you coming around to Trump? Rubio's about to drop out. Kasich's gonna have trouble yucking his way to the top. And then there's Ted.
 

OuterLimits

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Hmm just looked at Drudge and Blaze, and he is up but considerably less than he was after the last debate.

He needs to sow up the nomination before he tries to look sane to the rest of America, apparently.

The Blaze is Glenn Beck site. He has endorsed Cruz and hates Trump. Typically that site is mainly Cruz supporters.
 

rjinaz

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Hmm just looked at Drudge and Blaze, and he is up but considerably less than he was after the last debate.

He needs to sow up the nomination before he tries to look sane to the rest of America, apparently.

Playing his Trump card too early. Needs to spend more time in casinos apparently.
 

Toxi

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I never said that?

I said she's the one candidate to me (with Rubio) whose clearly bought out by big business and lobbyist's, and their interests comes first.

I don't think Hillary is sincere at all BTW, a true politician.
Sincerity? Did you even watch this fucking clown show?

Cruz lies as easily as he breathes, Trump evades actual policy by just saying "we'll make a deal", and Kasich acts like a nice old dude who wants to expand America's military and go to war with everyone.
 
Trump is a democrat that wants power so he says crazy shit to get the nomination and get free media coverage

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Record numbers are switching from democrat to republican. Over 100k just in Michigan alone on Tuesday.

That had to come from exit polls (since we didn't have to declare a party before voting here Tuesday), where people could be just saying that, or maybe they're Democrats who voted Trump because they see him as easily beatable.

Any other possibility is just too frightening.
 

danm999

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Where did he say he was pretending?

"I'm pro-Israel and I've told that to everybody and anybody that would listen that but I would like to at least have the other side think I'm somewhat neutral to them so that we can maybe get a deal done".

He said on an internationally broadcast debate.
 
Trump has been a registered Republican many more years than Democrat. He has given I think twice as much to Republicans over the years as well.

"In many cases, I probably identify more as Democrat," Trump told CNN's Wolf Blitzer in a 2004 interview. "It just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats than the Republicans. Now, it shouldn't be that way. But if you go back, I mean it just seems that the economy does better under the Democrats. ...But certainly we had some very good economies under Democrats, as well as Republicans. But we've had some pretty bad disaster under the Republicans."
 

params7

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Okay, so let's say that Trump is the most reasonable candidate on Palestine even though he said he's more pro-Israel than anyone else.

Which - lets say - is absolutely unprecedented and unheard of in U.S. politics. Funny to see the left piling on Trump for this.

This is still the same candidate who wants to deport 11 million people, legalize torture, get rid of the EPA, murder the families of terrorists, and increase surveillance on American muslims.

Trump has talked back the killing of terrorist families.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-terrorists_us_56e0d7cde4b065e2e3d4d82d

Torture is bad and I'm not for it, but seriously - you're trying to compare someone finally trying to put Israel/Bibi in its place - massively improving living conditions for millions of people to terrorist suspects getting tortured?

Deportation 11 million - how is thing even going to happen? In the extreme scenario it does - it will be slow and Trump says the non-criminals will be be legalized for return in an expedited process.
 
"I'm pro-Israel and I've told that to everybody and anybody that would listen but I would like to at least have the other side think I'm somewhat neutral to them so that we can maybe get a deal done".

He said on an internationally broadcast debate.

Oh yeah, I loved that part. No better way to ensure a secret doesn't leak than to spill it on national TV. Let's give this man the nuclear launch codes.
 
"I'm pro-Israel and I've told that to everybody and anybody that would listen but I would like to at least have the other side think I'm somewhat neutral to them so that we can maybe get a deal done".

He said on an internationally broadcast debate.

I don't see a problem with this . If you are going to be a mediator between two parties you need to be neutral. regardless of your personal feelings. A good negotiator can put their personal bias aside.
 

OuterLimits

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Much calmer debate overall. I thought Trump actually did well for the most part. His joke on Cruz not getting crowds was pretty funny. Otherwise he avoided taking the bait to attack.

I like Rubio and thought he had a good debate, but he is basically mathematically eliminated at this point and needs a brokered convention. Kasich was worse than last debate. Cruz was his usual self. Kind of a boring debate with no chairs being smacked across heads.
 

danm999

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I don't see a problem with this . If you are going to be a mediator between two parties you need to be neutral. regardless of your personal feelings. A good negotiator can put their personal bias aside.

A good negotiator doesn't announce they're pro one side before they've even attained the authority to conduct negotiations.
 

params7

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"I'm pro-Israel and I've told that to everybody and anybody that would listen that but I would like to at least have the other side think I'm somewhat neutral to them so that we can maybe get a deal done".

He said on an internationally broadcast debate.

You're not thinking. To win the voter base Trump should have slammed Palestine like 99.99% of democrats and republicans do. To even say "somewhat neutral" on an "internationally broadcasted debate" is a big deal.
 

Toxi

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Which - lets say - is absolutely unprecedented and unheard of in U.S. politics. Funny to see the left piling on Trump for this.

Trump has talked back the killing of terrorist families.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-terrorists_us_56e0d7cde4b065e2e3d4d82d
He was literally advocating it in the last debate. Why do you trust this snake?

Torture is bad and I'm not for it, but seriously - you're trying to compare someone finally trying to put Israel/Bibi in its place - massively improving living conditions for millions of people to terrorist suspects getting tortured?

Deportation 11 million - how is thing even going to happen? In the extreme scenario it does - it will be slow and Trump says the non-criminals will be be legalized for return in an expedited process.
Presumably it will happen the same way any actual putting Israel in its place will happen despite the majority of congress being pro-Israel and Trump saying he's pro-Israel.

It's amazing how Trump supporters seem to think he will only implement the policies they actually support.
 
That statement doesn't seem to actually exist though. That footage of him is from his interview with oprah and he never said that. I dont think I've ever seen any actual footage or evidence that he did say it so im not sure why that quote keeps circling around.

Lord knows he already says enough actual stupid shit, no need to muddy the waters with fake shit that he can use to further his vindictive media narrative
 

danm999

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You're not thinking. To win the voter base Trump should have slammed Palestine like 99.99% of democrats and republicans do. To even say "somewhat neutral" on an "internationally broadcasted debate" is a big deal.

I don't care about what he says, I care about what he'd do, and his actions tonight show me he is incapable or unwilling to actually negotiate an end to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. It's just an ego boast.

He's just talking a big game to win over gullible voters. Just like when he decries the influence of money in politics from special interest groups and then says he hasn't decided whether or not he'll take external money in the general.


Yeah cause he's lying his ass off trying to be all things to all people, and just because sometimes the needle ends up on "not totally horrifying" after a few revisions doesn't mean I trust or admire him.

He's a snake oil salesman.

Also that we will threaten China with a 45% tarrif so they behave but not actually raise it that much if they don't.

Genius.

Another example basically. For someone who decries the dumb leaders in America he sure is showing an awful lot of his hand. Either he has absolutely no intention to do this, or he's a terrible deal maker.
 
"I'm pro-Israel and I've told that to everybody and anybody that would listen that but I would like to at least have the other side think I'm somewhat neutral to them so that we can maybe get a deal done".

He said on an internationally broadcast debate.

Also that we will threaten China with a 45% tarrif so they behave but not actually raise it that much if they don't.

Genius.
 

params7

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He was literally advocating it in the last debate. Why do you trust this snake?

Read the link. Trump skirted around the issue in the debate.

Presumably it will happen the same way any actual putting Israel in its place will happen.

It's amazing how Trump supporters seem to think he will only implement the policies they actually support.

Clearly your priorities lie elsewhere and don't think U.S. at least pursuing a rhetoric that opens up opportunity for peace talks is very important.

Here's Rubio right now questing Trump's allegiance to Israel. What do you think?
 
He was literally advocating it in the last debate. Why do you trust this snake?


Presumably it will happen the same way any actual putting Israel in its place will happen.

It's amazing how Trump supporters seem to think he will only implement the policies they actually support.

Yeah, Trump said what he said, and meant exactly that. He just backtracked because it was getting a little too hot but he would absolutely continue down that route. He almost sounded sad that he couldn't be a fucking barbarian.
 
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