Goddamn, why did we never get Willem Dafoe Joker
He was so good in Death Note that I almost forgot I'm watching a mediocre movie.Goddamn, why did we never get Willem Dafoe Joker
Goddamn, why did we never get Willem Dafoe Joker
You're going to wish Snyder was back.
Yeah.
Scorsese will put his name on this.
Sure.
Box office flop.
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I really, really dislike the Joker with a permanent smile interpretation. I don't really like a Joker Origin movie in general, but if you have to do something give him the illness/disorder that makes him laugh at inappropriate times and make him laugh at a time of great heartache like his father being murdered (you COULD have both parents die and a family member or orphanage takes him in, but that's a little too on the nose for Batman's greatest villain) and laughing at the funeral could spark his new guardian to beat him. He can even have some psychotic break where he goes from laughing inappropriately but still feels emotions and some level of empathy to having psychotic breaks as a teenager. Then when he becomes the Joker something snaps and he no longer feels apathy.
This is if you have to do something. I'd prefer they didn't to be honest.
"Permanently smiling" is what Joker does to his victims. It's not the case with the man himself.. Or at least that's the way I like to look at it.
Besides, from a visual perspective you gotta give the actor more flexibility. Unless he's wearing a mask, in which case the smile doesn't matter too much. His voice and body language do.
Goddamn, why did we never get Willem Dafoe Joker
Most of the comics have it where his face is frozen in a smile.Endgame, for example, goes out of its way to mention that he can only hold other expressions by taking muscle relaxants.
Screen versions drop this because they want him to be more expressive.
I'd kickstart the shit out of this ventureIt must be a madhouse over there at WB, they should film a week there and release it as an Arkham film
Yo, but will it be dark?
My boy Todd Feldman put this together with Todd Phillips, Schaub said. Its dark. Its like a dark Joker. As a kid, he had a permanent smile and everyone made fun of him. Its like on the streets of Brooklyn. Its super dark and real.
What a fundamental misunderstanding of the source material.
Giving the Joker a definitive origin story ruins the character.
The only way I'd accept a "definitive" Joker origin story is if the movie unapologetically and constantly contradicts itself, like some kind of extended fever dream sequence.
Like, have the character's wardrobes change randomly between shots with no attempt at an explanation.
Have the same character played by a different actor/actress every time they appear on screen with nobody reacting oddly to it.
A character that blatantly dies on-screen shows up casually later and everyone just accepts it.
Identical twins of characters can be seen casually hanging out in crowd shots.
Two actors entirely switch roles halfway through a scene and finish the movie that way without attention ever being called to it.
That sort of thing.
Make the "joke" of the movie on the audience for expecting to understand the origin of a character like The Joker.
This reads like Shutter Island, a movie that infuriated me on first watch because it seemed so sloppily made. Spoiler:What a fundamental misunderstanding of the source material.
Giving the Joker a definitive origin story ruins the character.
The only way I'd accept a "definitive" Joker origin story is if the movie unapologetically and constantly contradicts itself, like some kind of extended fever dream sequence.
Like, have the character's wardrobes change randomly between shots with no attempt at an explanation.
Have the same character played by a different actor/actress every time they appear on screen with nobody reacting oddly to it.
A character that blatantly dies on-screen shows up casually later and everyone just accepts it.
Identical twins of characters can be seen casually hanging out in crowd shots.
Two actors entirely switch roles halfway through a scene and finish the movie that way without attention ever being called to it.
Doorways and staircases lead to impossible places but nobody bats at eye at it.
That sort of thing.
Make the "joke" of the movie on the audience for expecting to understand the origin of a character like The Joker.