I'm still not sure what kind of deal would Activision be accepting here.
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Rumor: "Untitled Spiderman PS4 Project" incoming
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I'm still not sure what kind of deal would Activision be accepting here.
TimFL
Member
Not that big. If I had to guess from memory... you could use the complete ISS map (with the water parts inbetween filled with concrete) as roughly 1/4th (at best 1/3rd) of NYC.
NYC is a massive place with bootloads of variety (Chinatown etc).
Activision only has the movie tie-in rights left (they expire in 2017). Marvel owns the general Spidey gaming license. We've seen stuff like the MCU Spidey deal happening, Activision throwing in the towel a year early (freeing up the movie tie-in license) or Marvel allowing SIE to do a Spidey game as part of the MCU deal is not THAT far fetched.
SomedayTheFire
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could this be tied to the sony developed animated Spider-Man film?
Given the timing, it's most likely the Marvel Studios-produced Spider-Man film (Spider-Man: Homecoming).
TimFL
Member
It sure as hell should be. I saw the new Cap movie and the new Spidey is awesome.
Maybe they'll even manage to get Holland to voice him, who knows? I was incredibly disappointed by the fact that they couldn't manage to get Garfield to reprise his role in the movie tie-ins.
So basically Marvel would be free to elect a developer (and publisher) of its own choice as long as the game didn't have any ties with the movies? I wasn't aware of that.
In this case, I guess it could happen. But I don't see Activision not renewing its own rights when the new Spider-man movies could be huge (early reception of Spider-man's appearance in Captain America 3: Civil War is very positive).
The Artisan
Member
word. well like I said it'd be ambitious, but doable. i wouldn't even care if they just modeled the whole goddamn thing after algonquin (if they just asked rockstar) and made it more vitalized.
so what exactly is going on here? it's up to disney, not sony, correct? so why would this even be a Ps4 exclusive (other than the hypothetical possibility of SP deving it)?
like, what's sony got to do with it at all?
The Artisan
Member
i can't get this fuckin thing off my mind now.
it needs to be revealed at e3.
it needs to be revealed at e3.
CreeperBlocks
Banned
For the love of all things SpiderMan.
PLEASE SWING LIKE SPIDERMAN 2. That's all I ask.
PLEASE SWING LIKE SPIDERMAN 2. That's all I ask.
TimFL
Member
No one knows for sure. What we know is that the movie tie-in rights are with Activision through 2017 but that could've changed in the last few months/years (Activision kind of killed all hopes for a good TASM2 tie-in by cutting the budget by 3/4th... could be they have no interest in tie-ins anymore).
The general Spidey gaming license (the keys to the kingdom that allow you to do pretty much everything you want) are back at Marvel/Disney.
Could be one of the following situations:
- It's no SP Spidey but a VR experience for PS4
- It's a movie tie-in (Activision called it a day early and Sony Pictures gave the tie-in license to SIE)
- It's part of the MCU Spidey deal (although I don't see why Sony Pictures would bargain for a SIE game, 2 different companies)
- SIE asked for the Spidey license and Marvel/Disney said yes (unlikely cause it seems that Marvel/Disney is trying to get back all kinds of licenses for both movies and gaming to do their own thing, Marvel Video Games Universe or whatever that is)
- It's the end of the world?
My bet is on Activision not wanting to do movie tie-ins anymore, giving the license back early (with Sony Pictures then allowing SIE/SP/whatever to do tie-ins).... or the PS4 exclusive being part of the MCU Spidey deal because let's face it: the MCU Spidey deal was a wet dream 2 years ago.
For anyone wondering why Activision would give up on the license, it's been clear for a while now that they've been dialing down any of their licensed output, especially now that Activision Value is no more. The Deadpool remaster was a total surprise, but the X-Men rights are a whole different can of worms in which nothing makes any sense.
The Artisan
Member
and this is all because sony sold the merchandising rights of spidey way back when to disney, right? they shoulda never done that, i bet they're regretting it now
meh. i guess that would be cool but i'm not really super interested in vr right now. but i can see others being excited for that.
welp, you know what they say about games based on movies...and movies based on games...if that's all it is i don't see why there'd be all this hidden hype behind it, movie-games usually don't have that.
you're saying this possibility means the deal they made last year could be not just about the MCU but about game licensing as well?
what indication is there that there's a marvel video games universe going on? i thought the only marvel games we had right now was that infinity shit
lol why are we even going there bro?
if activision lost the licenses why would they give it back to sony? wouldn't they be giving back to disney and then sony would have to try and get it after that?
Pai Pai Master
Banned
But Korra, Transformers and TMNT?
schaft0620
Member
I bought it brand new the day it came out for $42 and it came with 2 movie passes to see the movie ($30 value where I am from) loved the game.
Alpha Phoenix
Member
PS1 had an amazing Spiderman game. One of the few superhero titles I've actually enjoyed.
Not remembering the title, but I'm sure people know what I'm talking about.
Not remembering the title, but I'm sure people know what I'm talking about.
potatohead
Member
It actually is.
Their Infamous games are incredible, especially 2 and SS.
Feels very strange to have Sony holding a movie/third-party IP and giving it to a first-party studio, if this is real of course.
Last time I can remember those is those deals with Universal for Spyro and Crash....
The Artisan
Member
the one where venom would go invisible and he'd become a good guy after you beat him?
Alpha Phoenix
Member
I don't really remember anything story-wise, sorry >_>
But I enjoyed the game quite a bit.
There is pointedly nothing related to Activision Value past TMNT at this point.
TimFL
Member
Not about game licensing in general but what if they said "hey look... maybe you also allow us to do a PS4 Spidey game... you know... please?" and Marvel said "okay sure". You never know, the MCU Spidey deal itself came out of nowhere (well there was the Sony hack but you get what I mean).
There is this famous article from that one Marvel Games top dog who mentioned them trying to do what Feige did with the movies. Building a Marvel Video Games Universe that connects all of their games. I believe the guy also mentioned AAA console games coming with announcements in 2016. It's a polygon article and I'm sure it was linked already in this topic.
Not sure how that one works but could very well be the case. The Activision deal was done before Sony Pictures goofed away the movie merchandising rights.
We do know that there is a Spidey game in development (the CV going private and instagram pic being deleted is evidence enough I guess?) so we'll have to wait and see.
Infamous never really appealed to me but some of that gameplay in a spider man game is hype as fuck
Damn me too.
Sucker Punch is one of my top 3 favorite developers and Infamous is my favorite Sony IP, so if there's even a slight chance that they're making a Spider-man game, I can't help but get hyped at the possibility. Combine this with Civil War coming out soon, and the desire to know is just killing me.
TimFL
Member
You'll feel even worse once you saw the Cap movie... believe me. My hype is off the scale after seeing the MCU Spidey. All I could think of during his scenes was "god I need a new Spidey game".
JuanLatino
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so did i get this right.
Sony owns the License for the Spiderman Movies while Disney/Marvel has the License for everything else? (Comics, Merchandise, Videogames)
So the Fact that Spiderman will appear on the new Marvel Movie is only happening because of the Deal they made with Sony?
Which means the same could happen with the Games?
Sony owns the License for the Spiderman Movies while Disney/Marvel has the License for everything else? (Comics, Merchandise, Videogames)
So the Fact that Spiderman will appear on the new Marvel Movie is only happening because of the Deal they made with Sony?
Which means the same could happen with the Games?
As far as anyone knows Activision still have the movie license and Disney/Marvel have the license for everything else.
JuanLatino
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The Batman Games weren't based on the movies
So if Sony does the same with Spiderman, there wouldn't be a Problem right?
Sony don't have the license to make games based on Spider-Man.
Do we know this for sure? Couldn't it have been part of the deal to get Spiderman in the MCU?
We know that Activision have the movie license until 2017, unless anything is said otherwise that is all we still know.
TimFL
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The MCU Spidey deal is a miracle in itself so could very well be that one of the bullet points in there says "Allow SIE to do a PS4 Spidey game". We'll find out soon... hopefully.
DriftingSpirit
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Yep, a Spiderman game that is as critically successful as Infamous and Infamous 2 would perform really well. Hitting that upper 80 range or above would guarantee loads of success.
It could, but that would mean the deal between Marvel and Sony was negociated at much higher level than anticipated
I've been of the opinion that Disney and Sony have been very cozy for a while now (even though some think the Infinity deal was only due to a buddy call)... I do think that they made a $billlion type deal that encompasses a ton of stuff, from Star Wars to Spiderman licences/ temp exclusives, and from Movies to Videogames.
Could be wrong and it may just be that Acti threw in the towel 1yr ahead of time, or settled for a little % of sales in exchange. We might never know.
Heck, maybe it's all part of a multi partnered deal Sony-Disney-Activision which may also involve
Crash
snoopeasystreet
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What if its actually "Untitled Spiderman PS4 font" and it's going to be on the neo?
TimFL
Member
It'd suck. VR is nowhere near the level we need it to be for a proper Spidey experience. You can't do Spidey justice with room-scale tracking only. I require full immersive VR booths that hook your brain directly into the game!
One day...
SomedayTheFire
Member
puke city.
please no
HawksWinStanley
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Seeing as how everybody has failed miserably to create a Spiderman game on the level of Spiderman 2 I won't get my hopes up.
The Artisan
Member
yeah i don't remember much about the story either, i just remember some kid telling me that when we were kids - could've been a different spidey game. but i do recall watching gameplay and venom going invisible. i also remember alternate costumes.
this would be dope if it's true.
this thread is 10 pages deep but i guess i'll have to look through it
even if it was done before sony gave up the merc rights that means they reverted to disney right? so we're back to square 1
the nerdleaks tweets indicates it's best case scenario and sucker punch is developing it.
infamous 1 is still the best inf game.
I'm not sure why they would base the game on the movies.
That seems like the opposite of a good idea for creating a good game and it's not like Arkham City had any issues selling while being separate.
generic_username
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If the game is not based on the movies Activision will not have any say.
DriftingSpirit
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I enjoyed 2 more. The gameplay and location variety was above Infamous 1 for me.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
no way. I hope this is true. A sucker punch developed spidey is a day zero for me.
NightShift
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Sucker Punch has always been good at traversal in their games. They give the player a sense of freedom not commonly seen in open world games.
If there is one developer who can make the proper swinging mechanics found in Spiderman 2, it has to be them.
If there is one developer who can make the proper swinging mechanics found in Spiderman 2, it has to be them.