Yep made the jump today aswell.. I'm done with this I'd rather wait till january to get my ps4 than to get this..
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RUMOUR: Xbox One version of Call of Duty: Ghosts is 720p, PS4 version is 1080p?
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All of this has me thinking how exhausting it's going to be this up-coming gen to discern the "native or upscaled" question (important to me, though not all granted) every time devs/pubs say "1080p". That the X1 scales automatically up to 1080p (as I understand it) is not going exactly going to help in this regard.
MysticGoujon
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Because Microsoft are the big bad monster and Sony are the saviours of gaming?
They should, but they won't.
RealityPales
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Oh hell yes. I remember those days all too well. When FEAR finally dropped on PS3 in 2007 - that ran like garbage. I'm sure others can cite a multitude of other examples.
hooijdonk17
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They were, but usually not due to a rendering resolution difference; they tended to have worse framerate, texturing and/or tearing. I couldn't possibly downplay how inferior PS3 ports were at the beginning of the generation, I got a good laugh out of them.
That said, Xbone looks much worse off if it can't even reach the same target resolution. That's weak.
Chobel
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How do you know that? Are you a time traveler?
Well this is NeoGaf if we did not make a deal of everything it would not be such a nice place to be.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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The way it look in the ign video idk if im even gonna fuck with it. Ill just buy killzone if im getting ps4.
Miles Quaritch
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I wouldn't say they lost market share because of games performing worse, that was more down to other factors. Poor online infrastructure, delayed launch, higher price, etc.
EmptySpace
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no wonder titanfall has a release date but no resolution confirmations. in every interview, respawn does not say anything about resolution and instead always says, "framerate is king." how is that an answer to "what resolution does the game run at?"
EmptySpace's energy density just shot up.
EmptySpace's energy density just shot up.
Yes (buy Nokia stock asap!).
opticalmace
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Holy crap, over 500000 thread views already.
SpartanN92
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IT'S A TRAP!
I remember a thread on here where they basically said "we'll see" on the resolution, so I was personally always prepped for 720p there.
This, though...jeez. Especially after watching the ps4 footage and comparing it to what bf4 is doing.
fabricated backlash
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Nah, even this is merely a storm in a teacup.
Derpcrawler
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The Darkness was running something like 540p on PS3 and true 720p on 360.
GribbleGrunger
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What's the chances of 1080p still appearing on X1 game cases?
Sony need to add 'Native' just to make sure MS can't dupe anyone.
Sony need to add 'Native' just to make sure MS can't dupe anyone.
Yeah absolutely, but this kind of stuff trickles down to consumers through blogs, YouTube, and twitter, etc... eventually.
I'm sure further optimization of some magnitude will materialize. But I don't think anyone knows whether you can overcome the memory bandwidth problem entirely through software optimization. Their assumption was that the ESRAM setup, once properly exploited, will overcome the fact that no one has ever tried to pair a modern GPU with a low bandwidth memory pool.
Goodacre0081
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I don't see a reason to continue the partnership after it has already ran it's course. the series gained a following and could easily branch out to a multiplat title. I'm actually hoping it does because Gears was/is my go-to MP game this gen.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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That game was so terrible on PS3.
scoobs
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Skyrim?
Skyrim was a mess from what I've heard (i wouldnt know i play my elder scrolls games on PC where they belong
)But wouldn't you say that was more of an outlier than the industry norm? Or cases where developers just didn't put much effort into their porst. I remember games like batman:AA and burnout being great on PS3 for instance. Call of Duty games were nearly identical across both too...
Ah ok. Well I wouldn't be so sure about that. People still have fun with games like GTAV obviously. Of course it's largely disappointing that a next gen console can't render games like COD at 1080p but in the end, does it really matter for the majority of gamers out there? Do they go to sites like DF to compare the performance of mulitplats? I think not. So while it's really a bummer to see Titanfall and COD running at 720p, I don't think this particular news will change the game that much.
Well if its true that the developer environment is just making things difficult at the moment, there is definitely hope that things could improve in the future, just like with the PS3.
Not saying it'll ever become close to 'equalling out', but I think the system has proven that it can do better than this already, at least.
indeed, difference here should be big... i guess we will see in a month or so.
That's nonsense, all you have to do is look at cross platform sales to see that this stuff hurt the PS3 as well and that people weren't quite as forgiving as you'd like to remember. No one gave the PS3 a pass when these same issues arose.
RealityPales
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While we're on the subject of FPS - does anyone know if Knack is 1080p / 60fps? For some reason, I'm really in the mood to play that at launch. Perhaps even more so than KZ: Shadow Fall.
Risk Breaker
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Now now, calm your tits and reduce your expectations. PC gaming with noticeably better graphics than PS4 at 4k in 3 years, for less than what the Xbone will cost (or even 500$| in EU)? You're quite the optimistic.
And no, wow or minecraft at 4k is not "PC Gaming".
I dont have to support a company that tried to ram bullshit down consumers throats because they figured they knew better, as it was designed by gamers. I dont have to pretend that I dont know.that cloud gaming is bullshit. I dont have to pretend I need to spend 500 dollars on weaker hardware. it is hilarious to watch Microsoft, as a company, try to hide and spin this from the public. their 180s are a direct response to the outrage at their bullshit antics.and that is also hysterical. they are flopping on the wharf and its epic.
people can buy garbage all they want, thats their right. but dont expect anyone else to treat their garbage as if its not, you know? its data, its numbers at this point. numbers and visuals that ms is trying to spim/avoid with words.
best days ive seen on gaf. consumers calling shit out, and not.just being a brand loyal doer.
Miles Quaritch
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A large number of them ran considerably worse on PS3. That's where the lazy devs meme comes from.
Not sure I agree on your second. Hardly any of the 360 launch titles were native 720p and most games didn't really run 720p native until much later. Hell, most, if not all CoD titles have been 600p this gen.
Opus Angelorum
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Anyway, I doubt if this ends up being the case it relates so much to the power of the system (although that presumably contributes) as it does to the architecture of the system. All because they needed a safe route to 8GB or RAM.
Shocked? I am too. I've been called an xbot more times than I care to remember!
How so? Why does one company have a get out of jail free card and the other is damned for all eternity in a gamefaqs esque tirade?
The good/bad of it is beyond the bubble of some gaming forums the average game buying public have no idea there are varying degrees of HD image let alone can probably tell a difference when sitting 5-6 feet from a TV.
I'm just amazed if it does turn out to be true that its even possible when there are 7+ years of hardware development between last and current gen. Are we looking at bad framerates again? If that happens I'm out with both systems.
Knack is apparently variable 30 to 60.
MysticGoujon
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It's pretty shambolic if IW can't make an average looking game like Ghosts run at 1080p on the Xbox when Crytek is getting arguably the best looking game of the next gen running at 900p. Thats the only reason I struggle to believe these rumours at the moment, unless IW are a bunch of imbeciles it just doesn't make sense. Only other possibility is that first party teams have some more advanced/beta drivers available to them which the third parties don't.
In the short term, I'm not bothered by this news, I have no interest in Ghosts, or the third party at launch (although I am getting FIFA 14 and probably BF4). If this is an issue which won't improve over the next few months, then it's a huge issue for me, but lets wait for some confirmation before doom and gloom.
On a little side note, for all those saying that the ESRAM is hard to program for and is causing the Xbox One issues, don't you realise that developers have been developing for this architecture on the Xbox 360 for the last decade? That's not going to be the issue here, immature drivers/unoptimised OS maybe, and if that's it, then it's reasonable to assume that things will get better over the next few months as Microsoft sorts their act out.
In the short term, I'm not bothered by this news, I have no interest in Ghosts, or the third party at launch (although I am getting FIFA 14 and probably BF4). If this is an issue which won't improve over the next few months, then it's a huge issue for me, but lets wait for some confirmation before doom and gloom.
On a little side note, for all those saying that the ESRAM is hard to program for and is causing the Xbox One issues, don't you realise that developers have been developing for this architecture on the Xbox 360 for the last decade? That's not going to be the issue here, immature drivers/unoptimised OS maybe, and if that's it, then it's reasonable to assume that things will get better over the next few months as Microsoft sorts their act out.
M_A_C
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Same. The game looks horrid.
Holy cow!! xD incredible gif!
Wait, didn't someone posted a video of an unboxing from the Xbone version of CoD: Ghost? I didn't watched, but if there's already some copies of the game in the wild like that, shouldn't the case had printed the resolution of the game on the backside?
What bothers me is that in current gen, people are oblivious to the differences in performance between 360 games and PS3 games. This time around, people make it seem as if it's their mission to let the whole world know how weak the Xbox One is.
scoobs
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well the fact that 360 games ran at 720p native at all should make the fact that big-time XB1 games are launching at the same resolution a little disconcerting, no? You'd hope to get some kind of upgrade in the resolution department alongside your $500 new shiny box, wouldn't you?
problem is that PS3 was not weaker than 360, just more complicated, and you had games like Uncharted, Killzone and other first party games show superb graphics... while XB1 is significantly weaker console, there wont be "Killzone" that looks better than anything else on PS4.
I've just caught up with this madness this morning in work.. wow.
MS should've just taken it on the chin and called it the Xbox 720.
Frankly, I'd prefer higher frame rate at 720, rather than chasing 1080p.at 30fps.
Xbone 720p looks like PS4 1080p confirmed!
Unless I'm missing something a bunch of 360 and ps3 games already show 1080p on the back of the case even when they don't actually support that resolution.
Daffy Duck
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It was the prestige edition posted, so it wasn't shown as he got a steel book inside and didn't show the back cover of the outer sleeve.
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