Couldn't they just reuse the assets and publish the game under a different name. Similar to demon souls > dark souls.
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Scalebound cancelled [Platinum Games and Kamiya have commented]
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Couldn't they just reuse the assets and publish the game under a different name. Similar to demon souls > dark souls.
wild wild rice
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Vanquish...clunky? Whoever he is, this more or less invalidates his opinions. You can hate the game all you want, but it is one of the smoothest controlling games ever created, regardless of genre.
Vanquish clunky! That's like saying "Mario Galaxy has a bland color scheme" or some shit.
His comment about them batting a 50/50 was kinda right though and the game looked bad last e3.
AstroNut325
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Pretty sure is been this way since 2010. MS coasted on third party games, Halo, Forza, and Gears for a long time.
No he just loves Ms more.
YuriLowell
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Of course its fucking Gies with the horrible takes.
Hello? This is Hailun!
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Pathfinder
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Does anyone actually check the validity of these lists anymore before posting them?
Mass Effect
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I also counted the console exclusives that were shown.
Or maybe the cancelled their Uncharted 4 and Bloodborne. We may never know.
VoodooProject
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Are there any users who voted Microsoft the winner of E3 2014? Where are you? What are your thoughts?
we're living in a post-truth society
That a full grown man acts like this is just pathetic.
Leyasu
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Obviously I have to be careful here. Any suspected support of Microsoft could see me hung, drawn and quatered.
But, why didn't the whistleblower who is on the ground with the devs not tweet this months ago??
Randomizer
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This has really pissed me off. What a waste of four years that the team could have spent elsewhere. Knowing I'll have to wait years to play the next Kamiya game is extremely disappointing. I hope this situation hasn't burned him or the rest of the team out. Kamiya leaving Platinum or the industry would be a terrible loss.
The Giant
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Got a link to that?
This is just downright bad for Xbox. Really no coming out of this without a black mark on their PR record.
They need to reinvent their strategy ASAP or they're going the way of the Dreamcast. You could tell by the reveal of the Xbox One that they were already trying to move away from gaming.
They need to reinvent their strategy ASAP or they're going the way of the Dreamcast. You could tell by the reveal of the Xbox One that they were already trying to move away from gaming.
Glass Rebel
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An opportunity to shit on Platinum and defend Microsoft, of course Gies would jump on that like a free for all buffet.
I mean, the MS list would be bigger if it didn't exclude PC. As a gamer I don't see why that is a good thing, their shift to focusing more attention on PC is one of the few things I like about MS recently if anything.
I have tried to avoid reading tweets by him for a while now but I'll bite what controversial thing is he spewing this time?
The Antitype
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Not an Arthur Gies fan, but in this case he's correct. Scalebound demoed like shit and Platinum had 4 years. At what point would it have been acceptable for MS to say 'nah, we're done here.'? How much good money after bad?
This will be the biggest gaming news until the Switch reveal.
Galactic Specter
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I hope Platinum isn't too damaged after this.
Microsoft is the biggest plague of videogames today. They make fucking graveyards everywhere.
they don't
But Scalebound and Fable Legends seemed like they were gonna be service games. Also I'm pretty sure Phantom Dust was also gonna have multiplayer so I don't think they cancelled them because they were against the idea of these particular games.
The articles cities troubled development as a reason for why it got cancelled. And games with a troubled development getting cancelled isn't out of the ordinary.
What sticks out more is the fact that it's happened multiple times for MS in the last couple of years (and with games that have been publicly demoed multiple times). A lot of these kinds of games tend to be quietly cancelled (like Sony Santa Monica's game or that game Oblivion was working on for MS). So if anything, MS should stop announcing games too early (though judging from their last couple of E3's, I think maybe they've already started).
Ms specialty these last years is owning ips for sure.
My bad, i used Gamestop's E3 2014 summary list, didn't see QB mentioned on it for some reason.
FinalStageBoss
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Joseph Merrick
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GOD DAMN IT
He's pretty rude judging from his twitter tirade to say the least. And I'm guessing his attitude doesn't gel well with how MS running the business, who can be pretty cutthroat and shady as well.
Yup.
SenjutsuSage
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That's actually paul ryan, republican speaker of the house, pushing an old woman out of a wheel chair. True story.
2 Slice Toaster
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Interesting that the CNET AU writer claims to have known about MS sabotaging Platinum for awhile but didn't think it was worthwhile to...write about it, or pass the information to someone who would.
Eolz
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Holy shit, seems pretty close to the truth. Also, goddamn Polygon, stop already.
michaelius
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The AAA industry would be in big trouble if such thing happens, Sony alone can't hold AAA gaming
And why is that ? People who buy only single console would simply but the last one remaining or go for pc. So total base of active users would be similar for AAA develop.
Also having all games targeting only one console would reduce development and logistic costs.
I'm sure back in mid 2015 they had intended to release the game. Sounds like thing went south in late 2015 or 2016?
Seems like he didn't know it was being cancelled just that the devs weren't very happy. But who knows it could be false but he is not just an anon source like 4chan so it has a bit more weight.
What credibility?
I mean they said Vanquish is clunky and then you see them play DOOM and realize why they think that, that website is a joke.
toddhunter
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Vanquish required the use of all four trigger buttons. Now I know some people do that strange claw thing and it is natural to press both buttons down. But I only use one finger on each side to press one trigger or the other. This is just what I'm used to and it works for 99.9% of games.
It does not work for vanquish, so for my hands it is clunky as fuck.
Which isn't to say it is the same for others, but he is not necessarily wrong to have that opinion.
IcyRhythms
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Microsoft DOES own the Scalebound IP?
Not talking about Sony being dominant, this is what happens now actually, I'm talking about a scenerio in which they are being alone altogether after MS quit and Nintendo keep doing their own things (their own not really powerful things), I find it hard to believe good things will come out of a monopoly, during the PS2 days Sony still had competition they needed to best and put effort in, this is not the same.
Newtype-001
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Im reading the writers tweets and he agrees that alot of platinums third party stuff isnt good but that Scalebound is all on Microsoft and that Platinum were denied resources soo
The Antitype
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demigod
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Ah, here's what I was looking for
July 2015: "Those shits at MS...are they fucking with me?"
So, let's set a timeline HEAVY with speculation. Game was announced at E3 2014 without much notice. It skipped E3 2015, but showed up at Gamescom that year in August with an announcement of four-player co-op, which was shown off with a much rougher game in E3 2016's conference. The game was then cancelled soon after.
My guess is that, in July, Kamiya was told he had to rejigger the game into a four-player co-op thing. There were never any hints he wanted to make the game a Monster Hunter-like, but I am guessing people in charge of money were expecting him to do so. It gets announced, shown off, and the response is tepid. Changing tides at Microsoft, a desire to free up the UE4 team they put together to work with Kamiya, and being unhappy with the state of the game lead to it being cancelled.
If my guess is correct, that's really sad.
I was going to speculate this as well but it looks like you got it covered. It made no sense that a game went from single player to multiplayer unless it was "forced" by MS execs. Kamiya just got played.
I've said it before during E3 2015, the game looked like dog shit. Anyone who thought the game looked and played good were delusional. Even Quantum Break looked better.
And people really need to stop with the nintendo/sony saving this game. NO nintendo/sony fan wants this trash looking game. My guess will be the next PG game that gets announced won't be on xbox at all.
What is the point of excluding the PC side of things when MS have clearly stated that all their first party games from now on will also be on PC.
ElBoxyBrown
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Your leaving free money on the table if you think companies would accept a one-console future. EA has probably thought long and hard about making consoles. They have the games to rival the competition and they can do it. Choices are always gonna exist.
Head.spawn
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Theslammer
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Until Dawn was also shown in 2014 and was released the following year.
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