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Shooting inside Iran parliament and mausoleum of Ayatollah Khomeini
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I guess I can see that. Perhaps that's the problem with focusing on the military aspect of counter-insurgency and neglecting the ideological conflicts.
Where did you got this from?
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-iran-security-idUSKBN18Y0HV
I see how this might be misinterpreted, but it talks about Saudi backward leaders who support terrorism.
Gentleman Jack
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The news also developed between midnight and 6am in the United States. While I don't expect our leadership to say a whole lot given the GOP hardline stance on Iran and their general sentiment on the deaths of Muslims abroad, I strongly object to the idea that "GAF" is some kind of hivemind incapable of empathizing with the families of the deceased or the heightened tensions the survivors now face.
Darth Pinche
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RIP to the victims. Feels like this world is going to shit. ISIS needs to be erased.
bonesmccoy
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May the victims rest in peace.
Damerman
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Thats how bbc is reporting it.
Miles Quaritch
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Let's be real, when people hear about terrorist attacks in the middle east, they just don't care and some even think they deserve it and are getting what's coming to them for 'supporting and exporting' terror to Western shores.
When the Pakistan attacks were going on, I heard they deserve it a fair few times. Even the school shooting didn't elicit much sympathy from those who I now see angry and demanding action be taken for London.
I get it though, who cares about what's happening half way across the world or who might be suffering, people only care about what's in front of them or can directly affect them.
Wait....is he trying to intimate that Iran sponsors ISIS?
That's just dickish anyways.
I thunk hes talking about the usa...I'm confused.
What the? How does that even make sense? Victim of propaganda?
Dubbedinenglish
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"Oh well, y'all deserved it" is quite the statement.
fastford58
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Wenger'sBakedBaguettes
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While not surprising since it's from the pro-Sunni West that's still some really vile shit.
Also this attack only comes weeks after Saudi Arabia threatened Iran with taking the fight to their lands.
Golden_Pigeon
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Lol, i called for it. Working like clockwork. Even bad weather is Saudi inside job in Iran.
Somebody should make a "iranian revolutionnary guards" bot, it would work like a charm.
https://twitter.com/AlArabiya_Eng/status/872271291293855746
uncanny
trump, royal family of ksa and putin are the cancer of this world
TheRealTalker
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Deash just wants to fire up the high tensions between SA and Iran
and the IRGC is eating it up like a delicious soup
you gave a tweet about the Qatar scenario and the funding of Al - Qeada and not the Tehran attacks
and the IRGC is eating it up like a delicious soup
you gave a tweet about the Qatar scenario and the funding of Al - Qeada and not the Tehran attacks
hydragonwarrior
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And it'll probably remain that way - rightwing media will likely play it down as a terrorist attack but not bring up how Muslims were the targets or it'll hurt their BS narrative.
Dubbedinenglish
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You have to really appreciate the level of cluelessness coming from the WH in thier statement. ISIS is to blame but Iran is at fault for supporting terror (implying ISIS). Now in Syria Iran is providing material support to Assad and has committed troops to fight on the ground which Russia also supports. The WH says Russia is fighting terror so somehow Iran now lives in a quantum state of both supporting and fighting ISIS.
Golden_Pigeon
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Syria (the assad part) is basically under iranian military command.
Chuckie
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I think they meant it more 'general' as in: Iran supports 'terrorist' groups like Hamas. They can't be so clueless as to think they support ISIS.
No matter what they meant, it was a fucking vile statement. Just offer your condolences and stfu.
I merely gave a comment from the saudi fm hours before the attack.
Now campare it to what the white house said. Reads like the same.
Oh and the sudi heir said they bring want to bring the fight to iranian soil. Whatever the fight is
And you gonna have to back the claim of financing al qaede up. That's the first time I've heard this
That message from Trump is cold, thoughtless, and all around reprehensible, but I don't see the connection between a terrible mistake and the recent terrorist attacks.
Heavy's Sandvich
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Hezbollah?
Edit: that statement demonstrates double standard to be frank but to be expected.
Western get attacked because they hate our way of life.
Everyone else gets attacked because you helped to contribute towards it.
Aceofspades
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Saudi FM tweet is not about Tahran attacks.
Mohonky
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Disgusting.
So what Trump says here is that terrorist attacks are OK sometimes if you don't like the attacked country's policies? Congrats US, you're on the same page with ISIS, you only disagree on who is worthy of terror.
Aceofspades
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Iran is publicly interfering in six Arab countries destabilizing the region. Its run by a religious regime with a Constitution to "export the islamic revolution"
Let's just not pretend they are innocent because you hate SA for some reason.
lol "for some reason". Lots of reasons to hate SA. They're pretty much exclusively responsible for the majority of the Sunni terrorism that's been plaguing the world for the last few decades. I'd say Saudi is responsible for destabilizing more countries (Afghanistan and Pakistan, for example) than Iran is, which makes the US's love boner for SA and hate for Iran hypocritical.
Saudi Arabia conversely is not meddling in the Middle East at all. Saintly behavior as they bomb Yemen, fund terrorists and put the squeeze on the gulf states. And they're a heck of a lot better in exporting their Wahhabi revolution across the globe to detrimental effect than any Ayatollah managed.
Can't blame the Iranians for finding these ISIS attacks entirely too convenient either.
Aceofspades
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Pakistan + Afghanistan are both affected by Al-Qaeda or Taliban. Only time SA supported those terrorist groups was during chechen war, after that they stopped supporting them, hell they were affected by numerous attacks inside KSA to remove the "infedel government"
Iran in the other hand is aiding Assad, supplying Hezbollah, and Houthis and causing chaos in Iraq. They are doing it to this day.
SA and Iran are really similar in a lot of things the only difference is the religious regime "malaly" is ruling Iran.
While KSA is still ruled by "Royal family", the situation will be a lot worse if "Royal family" was removed and the crazy religious sect "Sunni"of SA took control.
Golden_Pigeon
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I think that KSA system consist in foreign policy is under the authority of the Royal Family and internal policy is for the clergy. It's the original deal made between Al-Saoud and the wahhabi reformists.
I am pretty sure that the driving ban for women or the cinema ban came from the clergy and not the royal family.
Iran is more extreme though since the clergy rule internal and external affair alike, of course the elected government have some kind of impact but it's seems to be similar as some kind of parliament under a absolute monarchy. The Guide take the government in consideration as a general indicator of the will of the people but still have the final word on everything.
Aceofspades
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About Yemen, in 2009, Houthi launched an all out attack to invade SA, Saudi Arabia defended their border then closed it.
Fast forward to 2015, Houthi regime with Revelotionary army of Iran planned a coup to remove Hadi ( current Yemen elected president) , Hadi flew to SA and asked for their help against the regime. Thats why operation SA interfered in Yemen.
But lots here love to ignore a lot of facts that's happening in ME.
ME conflicts are historical and very complex.
Man it has been a while since I engaged in politics, back to playing Tekken 7...
Aceofspades
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I guarantee those bans will lifted sooner than everyone thinks, a lot is changing internally in KSA.
They just established "moderation center" to help fight extreme idiologies, they removed all authorities of "religious police"
Golden_Pigeon
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People just watch who are the protagonist of any conflict and define the nature of the conflict accordingly.
Saudi Arabia ? Bad. So the other side is right.
It's very hard to say that Saudi Arabia are on the wrong side of the conflict in Yemen.
Golden_Pigeon
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How the clergy would reacts though ? I know the clergy is royally appointed but i doubt they will change all fatwas overnight. Well they kinda did that during the iraqi invasion of Kuwait...
More worrying would be the reaction of the hardliners, but i really don't know their weight in the general population. In Iran, it's certainly a political force.
Aceofspades
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Believe me, once the order come from the king himself, no clerk will bat an eye (in public of course)
It just hapoened with lifting the ban on women travel...no one dared to oppose the King order.
Also culturally, SA is changing, government has been sending thousands of people to study abroad and come back with knowledge and moderate views of the world. Culture is changing slowly for the better.
blu
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Let's not forget Erdogan.
This is very rich these days when Saudi Arabia just started another Gulf region crisis by ganging up GCC on Qatar. This even ignoring the fact that Saudi Arabia is as involved as Iran in the Syria situation, just on another side.
Golden_Pigeon
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Let's hope so ! Last step needed is to remove this crazy sect from the religious authority and it will be fine again. I hope i will be able to make my hajj in a non-wahhabi arabia...
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