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Super Smash Bros. for Wii U POTD Thread 17: Smash 3DS Discussion @ OT PLS

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geeko

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Just got this in my email today after calling last Friday. For a second I thought they decided to hook me up with some smash codes.

Hello,

Regarding the special Club Nintendo demo of Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS, to have been eligible you had to have opted in to receive promotional emails from Nintendo before the announcement was made on Friday, September 12th. Opting in afterward will not make you eligible.

I know this isn’t what you were hoping for, but I’m happy to report that the demo will be made available to the general public on September 19th in the Nintendo eShop. The full game will be made available there on October 3rd.

Sincerely,

Nintendo of America Inc.

What a stupid reason to not be eligible. Not like it matters though, a gaffer hooked me up with a code.
 
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That explains the lack of villains... l:(

Edit:
I'm starting to believe this WiiU-3DS connectivity thing, a lot of stuff makes sense and just adds up.

Seems like Ridley, Dixie, Mew2, and Chorus Kids/ Marshall may have a chance after all.
 

emb

Member
Just got this in my email today after calling last Friday. For a second I thought they decided to hook me up with some smash codes.

Hello,

Regarding the special Club Nintendo demo of Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS, to have been eligible you had to have opted in to receive promotional emails from Nintendo before the announcement was made on Friday, September 12th. Opting in afterward will not make you eligible.

I know this isn’t what you were hoping for, but I’m happy to report that the demo will be made available to the general public on September 19th in the Nintendo eShop. The full game will be made available there on October 3rd.

Sincerely,

Nintendo of America Inc.

What a stupid reason to not be eligible. Not like it matters though, a gaffer hooked me up with a code.
I had the same struggle. But at least the guy on the phone was able to tell me that directly last weekend, instead of stringing me along. I wish I had complained at him all angrily, but I'm sure the support 'specialists' are getting plenty of that as is. I did at least take the opportunity to complain about that policy in the support satisfaction survey.
 

KHlover

Banned
I don't see how getting mad at Nintendo makes sense when people chose (in most cases) to opt out of their promo emails.

Well "Exclusive demo access to the biggest 3DS game of the year" isn't what promo Emails usually contain. Opting out of promo Emails is in my experience what everyone who doesn't want a shithole of an Email account does >.>
 

Gleethor

Member
Well "Exclusive demo access to the biggest 3DS game of the year" isn't what promo Emails usually contain. Opting out of promo Emails is in my experience what everyone who doesn't want a shithole of an Email account does >.>

And waiting one week to be able to play said demo isn't that horrible of a consequence for not opting in.
 

emb

Member
New Project M art thing for this week:
http://imgur.com/a/u7dXG#0

(Forgive me if it's off topic. I usually see these posted here)

RIP ICs.
And waiting one week to be able to play said demo isn't that horrible of a consequence for not opting in.
You say that like it's not a horrible, life altering consequence. :\

Nintendo still sends you emails for your orders and such from CN when you're opted out. Legitimate promotions shouldn't be blocked from the spam mail opt out.

But that's only if customer's best interest is in mind. Of course it isn't, Nintendo is a company trying to make money. And apparently sending ads in junk mail makes money. They now have me subscribed to junk mail for the rest of eternity. At least Gmail is pretty good about sorting it out these days.
 
Not trying to start a discussion here (I'm bad at those), so I'll just make a list:

- The 3DS' ability to connect to the WiiU in general
- That "997" MB of left-over space
- The character roster's odd shape

This video will probably explain it better than me.
I was afraid to watch that video, but I think that guy might have made the least annoying Smash Bros conspiracy theory video I've ever seen. He should give tips to the Ridley guy with the plateau hair.
 
I don't think you can choose your win pose anymore, or at least not in the demo. :(
Well "Exclusive demo access to the biggest 3DS game of the year" isn't what promo Emails usually contain. Opting out of promo Emails is in my experience what everyone who doesn't want a shithole of an Email account does >.>

I get more emails from Twitch in a day than what Nintendo has sent me this year. They're pretty good with not flooding my inbox.
 
Not trying to start a discussion here (I'm bad at those), so I'll just make a list:

- The 3DS' ability to connect to the WiiU in general
- That "997" MB of left-over space
- The character roster's odd shape

This video will probably explain it better than me.

It's feasible, but I certainly wouldn't count on it. If RagingSpaniard is telling the truth (the one who essentially started the rumor on GAF), then there are just highly detailed models of characters on the 3DS version that have yet to be seen. However, I think it would likely point to canceled characters/stage hazards rather than unlockables.
 
First, regarding the roster, Sakurai mentioned that even though many characters are included, there are some who worry about those who didn’t make the cut. He specifically addresses the absence of the Ice Climbers as well. It seems they were running in the Wii U version, but due to the required hardware power, the team couldn’t make them work in the 3DS game. There wasn’t as high a priority given to series that are unlikely to have another installment at this time.
Interesting that how Sakurai quoted, means that IC is likely to get a new game?
http://nintendoeverything.com/sakur...bros-wii-u3ds-and-more-in-new-famitsu-column/
 

Ryce

Member
I don’t truly believe in any of the DLC leaks because I don’t want to end up disappointed, but there’s something worth noting about the Spainkiller/4chan characters.

My biggest complaint about the current character select screen is that it lacks any kind of harmony. There’s a degree of chronology, but the thematic links present in Brawl’s select screen are gone. It just doesn’t “feel” right. However, by putting the clones where they belong and adding the rumored characters, the select screen really comes together and makes a ton of sense.

Here’s what I mean:

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  • The top half of the select screen started in the ‘80s, and the bottom half started in the ‘90s/‘00s. The only exception is the Yoshi and Wario series, but they sort of need to be with the Mario characters.
  • The DK characters fall under their Mario counterparts — the protagonists are together, and so are the male/female sidekicks.
  • There’s a sort of R&D1 “bracket” consisting of Dr. Mario, Wario, G&W, R.O.B., and Duck Hunt.
  • The Metroid and Kid Icarus sister series are together.
  • Pit is under Link (bow-wielding heroes), and Palutena is under Zelda (titular mages).
  • Palutena and Kirby are the centermost characters. Kirby has a history of being in the middle of Smash Bros. select screens.
  • Fox is under Duck Hunt. This isn’t very significant, but they’re both canines. You could even extend this link since Falco is a bird.
  • All of the RPG series (Fire Emblem, Pokémon, Mother, Xenoblade) are touching.
  • The psychic characters are together — Mewtwo and Ness.
  • Captain Falcon is below Fox — they share a universe.
 
Man, I really wish Famitsu published an English version over here. I'd love to read Sakurai's column every time.

I think you're reading that last line a little wrong; he's not prioritizing them, because they're unlikely to get a new game at this time.

Well, from what I understand, making IC working is lower priority than those who'll never get a new game like DHD/Rob. So....
 
Interesting that how Sakurai quoted, means that IC is likely to get a new game?
http://nintendoeverything.com/sakur...bros-wii-u3ds-and-more-in-new-famitsu-column/

Yep, this is why I said the 3DS version was a bad idea. Cramped hands/broken sticks, IC dropped, Wii U version delayed, models likely downgraded to have some semblance of platform parity, less reason to purchase a Wii U... all for the ability to play Smash Brothers on a handheld. Sure they will probably sell more copies of Smash Brothers this way, but it could have pushed more Wii U hardware, allowing for more overall Nintendo software sales. I just don't think it was a good idea at all.
 
Yep, this is why I said the 3DS version was a bad idea. Cramped hands/broken sticks, IC dropped, Wii U version delayed, models likely downgraded to have some semblance of platform parity, less reason to purchase a Wii U... all for the ability to play Smash Brothers on a handheld. Sure they will probably sell more copies of Smash Brothers this way, but it could have pushed more Wii U hardware, allowing for more overall Nintendo software sales. I just don't think it was a good idea at all.

*snickers*

don't think so, Nintendo makes more money this way
 
Yep, this is why I said the 3DS version was a bad idea. Cramped hands/broken sticks, IC dropped, Wii U version delayed, models likely downgraded to have some semblance of platform parity, less reason to purchase a Wii U... all for the ability to play Smash Brothers on a handheld. Sure they will probably sell more copies of Smash Brothers this way, but it could have pushed more Wii U hardware, allowing for more overall Nintendo software sales. I just don't think it was a good idea at all.

Err what?
 
*snickers*

don't think so, Nintendo makes more money this way

The primary reason for a killer app like this is to sell systems. The primary reason to sell systems is to sell software. If it's not a Wii U exclusive, fewer Wii U systems will be moved. Now it's possible that it's not enough of a system seller to make up for the 3DS software sales. If that's the case, then they made the right decision financially. Either way, though, I would have preferred to just have the Wii U version.
 

KHlover

Banned
I don't think you can choose your win pose anymore, or at least not in the demo. :(


I get more emails from Twitch in a day than what Nintendo has sent me this year. They're pretty good with not flooding my inbox.

But you don't know that until you actually let them send you promo emails in the first place. Which kinda was my point - many people made bad experiences with newsletters in the past and as a result opt out. I don't know how it is in the US but when growing up we were also taught in school to not just opt in to newsletters in order to keep our Email accounts clean and (although not relevant in Nintendo's case) decrease the risk of catching infections by klicking on links of newsletters from some shady sites (which aren't as obvious as one might think in case of the well-made ones).

It also didn't stop Nintendo to send out the Super Mario Bros. Deluxe download codes to everyone iirc (I didn't opt in to any newsletters and still got that code) regardless.
 

Subaru

Member
I think the most mysterious thing is that Ness doesn't have a "Lucas color".
I bet that Lucas is in the game in some form, I don't know, maybe DLC (free or not).
It would be logical if they release more content with the Wii U launch.
 

IntelliHeath

As in "Heathcliff"
Here’s what I mean:

1VjJK4c.png


  • The top half of the select screen started in the ‘80s, and the bottom half started in the ‘90s/‘00s. The only exception is the Yoshi and Wario series, but they sort of need to be with the Mario characters.
  • The DK characters fall under their Mario counterparts — the protagonists are together, and so are the male/female sidekicks.
  • There’s a sort of R&D1 “bracket” consisting of Dr. Mario, Wario, G&W, R.O.B., and Duck Hunt.
  • The Metroid and Kid Icarus sister series are together.
  • Pit is under Link (bow-wielding heroes), and Palutena is under Zelda (titular mages).
  • Palutena and Kirby are the centermost characters. Kirby has a history of being in the middle of Smash Bros. select screens.
  • Fox is under Duck Hunt. This isn’t very significant, but they’re both canines. You could even extend this link since Falco is a bird.
  • All of the RPG series (Fire Emblem, Pokémon, Mother, Xenoblade) are touching.
  • The psychic characters are together — Mewtwo and Ness.
  • Captain Falcon is below Fox — they share a universe.

Well, I don't believe in any rumors at the moment. The roster look pretty nice, and now it made sense considering the fact that Ice Climbers is more likely to be cut for good. The roster look pretty good overall if it's real.

New Project M art thing for this week:
http://imgur.com/a/u7dXG#0

(Forgive me if it's off topic. I usually see these posted here)

RIP ICs.

You say that like it's not a horrible, life altering consequence. :\

Nintendo still sends you emails for your orders and such from CN when you're opted out. Legitimate promotions shouldn't be blocked from the spam mail opt out.

But that's only if customer's best interest is in mind. Of course it isn't, Nintendo is a company trying to make money. And apparently sending ads in junk mail makes money. They now have me subscribed to junk mail for the rest of eternity. At least Gmail is pretty good about sorting it out these days.

RIP IC. They really have adorable alt costume in PM so I might give them a second chance.
 

Zubz

Banned
Interesting that how Sakurai quoted, means that IC is likely to get a new game?
http://nintendoeverything.com/sakur...bros-wii-u3ds-and-more-in-new-famitsu-column/

Seems more like the opposite. Either way, we knew this when we saw Charizard was a standalone fighter, since the 3DS might not've handled Squirtle and Ivysaur, but seriously, this roster disparity it bullshit; would anyone really be upset if we can get a classic character running in the version of the game that's going to be used competitively anyway, if all it means is Super Smash Bros. Lite is missing a character? I mean seriously, I didn't use them in Brawl, but they were my one of my 4 mains in Melee, and they really brought a unique concept to the table.

Is there any way we can convince Sakurai to put them in? I doubt petitions work, although he did acknowledge the Reggie one awhile back... (They're probably using the excuse "You can use his Mii!" to cover that one).
 
God damn it! They worked on the Wii U version, so why cut them? Just to keep the rosters equal?
I won't lie... Trying to keep the rosters the same between both version was, and has proven to be, a terrible idea. Intentionally cutting one character that worked on one game because they didn't work on another just to adhere to some arbitrary principle is so... Ugh.
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
I won't lie... Trying to keep the rosters the same between both version was, and has proven to be, a terrible idea. Intentionally cutting one character that worked on one game because they didn't work on another just to adhere to some arbitrary principle is so... Ugh.
Funny, considering that many agreed with the idea of keeping the roster the same not too long ago.
 

Zubz

Banned
Funny, considering that many agreed with the idea of keeping the roster the same not too long ago.

Wait, since when? I thought most people opposed roster disparity. It'd be hard to ask now thanks to hindsight, but I thought people were immediately aware by the way Sakurai worded it that it meant cut characters that were 100% functional on the superior system just to match the weaker, portable one.
 
I didn't mind it because I thought the idea that the 3DS version would be responsible for characters being removed was silly. That's not true now.

It bothers me that they didn't get any kind of priority, despite being unique characters representing their own series and having two Smash games behind them. And it's just arbitrary and stupid to remove fully functional characters on one version of the game just because it doesn't work as well on the other.

Wait, since when? I thought most people opposed roster disparity. It'd be hard to ask now thanks to hindsight, but I thought people were immediately aware by the way Sakurai worded it that it meant cut characters that were 100% functional on the superior system just to match the weaker, portable one.

Exactly.

Now Ice Climbers are completely gone - even the Polar Bear lacks the series logo.
 
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