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Terrorist attack in London [up: 6 people killed, ~50 injured, 3 attackers dead]
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Kadayi
Banned
Apparently enough times that we're to believe that it's everyone else's fault
Arrest 400 people because one of them *may* do something.
Yes, that sounds like a completely rational and sensible policy that won't in any way backfire and will definitely make us safer. /s
cromofo
Member
Extremists. People who fought in the ME and returned.
So irrational. I hope you're joking.
Sinfamy
Member
If those 400 are *known* to have fought in Syria for ISIS, that should be cause for deportation or arrest.
I don't care if you help children with Leukemia in the UK, you don't escape that crime.
Miles Quaritch
Member
We have numerous examples of people being influenced by the media they consume.
Bit silly to suggest it doesn't play a significant role.
What is it with people constantly shouting deport? When almost all British terrorist attacks in recent years have been carried out by British citizens? Deported to where and how?
And re 400 people fighting for ISIS in Syria, I'd just point out that we've been down this road before with Afghanistan, and it was a complete disaster. Turns out a lot of people who we thought fought in Afghanistan didn't, and we arrested and imprisoned people falsely for long periods of time that led to significant compensation claims and obviously huge amounts of bad press that extremists made work of.
And re 400 people fighting for ISIS in Syria, I'd just point out that we've been down this road before with Afghanistan, and it was a complete disaster. Turns out a lot of people who we thought fought in Afghanistan didn't, and we arrested and imprisoned people falsely for long periods of time that led to significant compensation claims and obviously huge amounts of bad press that extremists made work of.
What percentage of the blame of vehicular homicide and murders via stabbing do you attribute to media consumption.
Is anjem and his ilk shown too much on TV? yes. Is he frequently shown with someone countering / ridiculing his ideas? yes. Do I think him speaking on TV is a significant portion of the blame of anyone doing stuff like this even? no.
Theonik
Member
Lack of evidence of criminal wrongdoing.
We send people to fight wars you know. If people weren't stupid that simply would not be possible.
A TV "celebrity" is much easily believable even when he spouts extreme opinions. See Trump.
Soldiussnaku
Member
If the dumb fuckers start targeting masjid s or imams then it will galvanise the Muslim uk population like never before to really really weed out all the extremists and only help the fight against terrorism. It's clear too see with all of the reporting of uk muslims outing the would be terrorists, the imams and masjids outing them and exiling them and uk muslims coming out against them, that uk peeps who are Muslim love this country and the freedom it affords them. Many peeps from alll types of Islamic denominations and schools of thought would rally together, despite the deep differences that exist. From the conversations I have had with a fair few colleagues at work and relatives, the older generation might grumble at the some of the more open, liberal leaning aspects of life here, but they love the freedom this country affords to live as a U.K. Muslim, especially the younger peeps.
The article that was linked hints towards that and its reassuring to see so many leaders latch on that they need to at least work together to combat this internal threat.
jufonuk
not tag worthy
Went down to where it happened. Really surreal. People paying respects. People visibly upset. Bu not shaken . Everyone is coming together to comfort each other and just in the general spirit. London isn't reeling.
In fact there is a film festival with outside screening going on.
So don't think it is all doom and gloom.
The usually very stoic people of london are actually more open and friendly and outgoing without the aid of alcohol to loosen them up.
This changes nothing. We won't live in fear and we will continue to be us.
In fact there is a film festival with outside screening going on.
So don't think it is all doom and gloom.
The usually very stoic people of london are actually more open and friendly and outgoing without the aid of alcohol to loosen them up.
This changes nothing. We won't live in fear and we will continue to be us.
So the third attacker was also known. And even more than that, he could have been stopped from entering UK, as he was on a EU-wide suspects list:
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-40183147
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-40183147
Miles Quaritch
Member
Don't worry, we are going to get rid of the human rights act. We don't need more police officers and resources when we can get rid of rights for all people.
Don't forget about the intelligence exchange with EU that will be used as a bargain chip.
Miles Quaritch
Member
I agree that everyone shares some level of personal responsibility for their actions, but it's never wise to dismiss the effect someone's media consumption can have on their mental health and way of thinking.
That doesn't mean we absolve anyone of their crimes or actions, it just means we're looking at what might have been a contributing factor. Their faith was one, the media they consumed was another, their weak mindedness another and so on.
Indeed. How the fuck does attacking women resolve any situation?
Bunch of racist cowards.
milanbaros
Member?
Awful news. Please can someone update the thread title as it is out of date.
Just saw this. It is crazy.
| Praxis |
Banned
Hope the guy that was stabbed survived, he looked hurt but was able to stagger off.
The policemen are heros. Almost got hit by their own car aswell
the cop ghost riding while he takes down the terrorists. He couldn't look more badass if he tried.
but seriously these people are heroes. Absolutely no fear, just charged at them.
BrassDragon
Member
Let's not forget the British Transport Police officer who was the first to engage these idiots with only his baton and suffered multiple knife injuries.