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The PlayStation 5 vs. the Xbox Series X: Which is more powerful?
Darlingcognito
Member
Fuckin what? The only way you could say Ps5 is if you were reading it upside down, back to front and in ancient egyptian.
tflopsmatter
Banned
Yes I did. I told people that they were crazy for believing in GitHub. I'm literally in horror over how stupid I was to have faith that Sony would provide a true generational leap.
wordslaughter
Banned
No it's not. We will definitely not be seeing the same performance for third party games.
The XSX version of multiplats will easily win nearly every Digital Foundry head to head.
DunDunDunpachi
Banned
Doubtful.
Instead, you can expect to see a lot more PR related to "lead console" and "unprecedented partnership" and "timed exclusive" and so forth.
All joking aside, the PS5 specs are respectable. If Sony can price the console competitively they will be fine.
I do not plan on buying the console right away but I always end up owning all consoles from the big 3. I am excited to see Sonys first party show games on the new hardware.
I do not plan on buying the console right away but I always end up owning all consoles from the big 3. I am excited to see Sonys first party show games on the new hardware.
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
PC CPU - RAM and GPU - VRAM
SmoothRunningGun
Member
Their lineup is all on pc day and date. We're not sure about Sony's.
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Hawking Radiation
Member
For more than 6 months I was deciding between PS4 Pro and Xbox One X for my current console.
Day came for me to splash $1000 on a game console with games and extra accessories and i ended up walking out of the store with a black PS4 Pro under my arm.
It was the games in the end that swayed me. Xbox has fantastic games but Playstation had the bigger variety of exclusives.
That may change come next gen.
Day came for me to splash $1000 on a game console with games and extra accessories and i ended up walking out of the store with a black PS4 Pro under my arm.
It was the games in the end that swayed me. Xbox has fantastic games but Playstation had the bigger variety of exclusives.
That may change come next gen.
Fbh
Member
Seems more like a continuation of Ps4 Pro vs Xb1X
Xb1X actually delivers native 4K in some games or comes closer than the Pro in others, it's smaller and much quieter, has a UHD bluray player, actually has backward compatibility and it significantly enhances a lot of older games with much better resolutions, smoother performance, better texture filtering, etc while the Pro offer.
Main difference now being that both systems are said to release around the same time while at least with the Pro Sony could justify the crappier hardware and design by releasing a year sooner.
Hawking Radiation
Member
Sony is not stupid.
They know the PS4 has suffered heat and noise and its one of things most PS4 owners complained about so they addressed that with the new cooling solution that is said to be expensive in PS5.
Also you don't clock a GPU that high if you know you're going to have excessive heat and noise issues which leads me to believe that the final form factor of PS5 will not be anything like PS4 or PS4 Pro. This will be a big chunky box and i don't mind it at all. If bigger and chunkier means quieter and cooler then count me in.
Mista
Banned
No its not. Pro and X proves his point
Hawking Radiation
Member
These are all numbers that probably half of us don't understand. There is no need for these 'let downplay this and that' comments. No one here has seen any practical examples of what these numbers mean so its very hard to downplay anything.
On paper there is a gap between these two. In reality we don't know what that gap looks like. Wait until we see practical examples (preferably multiplatform games) then we can claim X,Y and Z is 'downplaying' this and that.
Some of you folks need to chill. Seriously.
DunDunDunpachi
Banned
How do two systems with a 40% gap prove his point about systems with an arguable 20% gap?
Also, that is my point. If there is a gap in hardware power, Sony is incentivized to compensate using marketing/PR. Hence my comments about "expect to see timed exclusives, lead console, etc" in the upcoming generation.
wordslaughter
Banned
It's really not 20%.
That figure assumes a PS5 GPU running at 2.23Ghz and that's not happening except for brief pulses. It's more like 30%.
Unless there is some problem/bug with the XSX version of a multiplat you can expect to see the XSX version winning nearly every Digital Foundry head to head. Just like the base PS4 beats the base Xbox and how the Xbox X beats the PS4 Pro.
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Bogroll
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I sure hope so because if its signifcantly cheaper than Xsx and reasonably quiet I'll get it before the Xsx. Either way I'll get both in the end I'm just not buying both at launch like in 2013.
tflopsmatter
Banned
MS set the standard for next gen at 12TF of RDNA2.
They achieved eight times the TFLOPS of the XBox One S.
Sony failed with a system that only has 9.2TF.
Then they made it worse by only having eight CPU threads.
Then they made it worse by having even less bandwidth.
Then they made it worse by not even having one TB of SSD.
They achieved eight times the TFLOPS of the XBox One S.
Sony failed with a system that only has 9.2TF.
Then they made it worse by only having eight CPU threads.
Then they made it worse by having even less bandwidth.
Then they made it worse by not even having one TB of SSD.
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Terra, Mr., terra.
The bandwidth advantage of the PS5 is probably really expensive and can lead to issues for late XSX ports from PS5, so there may actually be situations where a PS5 version is the better choice. But yeah, overall, XSX is clearly the better system tech-wise. If you primarily care about AAA multiplatform games, the choice is clear, but exclusives exist and do make a difference for many.
For me, the choice now is pretty clear, with the better hardware, the MUCH better controller and at least the off-chance of first party games that appeal to me (if Microsoft decides to use old Rare IP or to continue Ori), the ability to reuse my existing Xbox One controllers on XSX, XSX is my first choice. But I do not have a PS4, so I might buy a PS5 when the first revision comes to be able to play God of War 3, God of War and a handful of other exclusives I might find interesting.
JareBear: Remastered
Banned
Wait, is this true? I missed this, then. I thought they were both 8 core/16 thread
You do need it if you cannot make them cooperative enough.
As in: typical multiplatform developer making game for PC, Sony, MSFT, Nintendo.
Stiflers Mom
Banned
Naah, all is fine, mate..
PS5 will get loads of great games.
And some ridicule as well..
//DEVIL//
Member
who gives a fuck about extra few seconds loading screen ? wtf these people are smoking ?
give me that extra power.
the hell even developers wont use that special ssd feature on PS5 because they have to make the game on both PC and Xbox. so at the end of the day most of devs wont utilize it in a more affective way aside from maybe loading the game faster . ..
give me that extra power.
the hell even developers wont use that special ssd feature on PS5 because they have to make the game on both PC and Xbox. so at the end of the day most of devs wont utilize it in a more affective way aside from maybe loading the game faster . ..
sonomamashine
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Iced Arcade
Member
Xbox got a good chunk on it bit the PS5 is still a beastly unit.
I'm just glad next gen is a good advancement step
I'm just glad next gen is a good advancement step
Bryank75
Banned
I dunno, we will have to wait till launch till we can see the performance difference between the two.... should be about November in the US. Then Xbox should make its first sale in europe maybe 6 months later and we can shuttle people through the guys house to see how it performs before he trades it in...
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Deleted member 775630
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The Xbox Series X is by far the most powerful out of the two. CPU, GPU, RAM, all of it is better in their system. The only thing is the SSD, and sure it's very fast. The question is, is the rest of the system powerful enough to do something with that amount of data so fast? We'll have to see, but at the moment it looks like that the SSD of Xbox Series X is fast enough.
Kokoloko85
Member
For all those on TFlops Numbers
Playstation 5: 36 CUs @ 2.23ghz
Xbox one X: 40 CUs @ 1.1ghz
XBox series X: 52 Cus @ 1.85ghz
Playstatuions 5’s 36 CUs @ 2.2ghz is better than Xbox Sx 52 CUs @1.85ghz... lol
Playstation 5: 36 CUs @ 2.23ghz
Xbox one X: 40 CUs @ 1.1ghz
XBox series X: 52 Cus @ 1.85ghz
Playstatuions 5’s 36 CUs @ 2.2ghz is better than Xbox Sx 52 CUs @1.85ghz... lol
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Windows-PC
Banned
XBox Series X eats PS5's for Breakfast
Varnish La PS
Member
Hight quality exclusives.
*Nightwing
Member
As a sony fanboy they technically are not wrong at all. In increase in I/O speed for accessing data is a game changer that will free up RAM during usage which in theory can make up a little ground so that the spec difference is negligible in visuals and performance... The fucking important part they forgot about again and are making the same mistake as the ps3 is essentially asking developers to change how they design code and how they make games fundamentally function utilizing hardware. And when developers are faced with the options for multiplats: 1- make 2 separate versions of the game, one traditional structure for sexbox/PC and a different but similar one built from ground up for ps5. 2- maximize game to function on what they already know best for sexbox and pc, and port to ps5 using thier best effort as a measuring bar...which do u think they will chose? Just like the fucking ps3. At least exclusives will look on par with sexbox in 5 years /s
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I think at the core ps5 is a 4k 60 fps box, where as MS's beauty-beast has all the bells and whistles.
I will get the PS5 first because I am not paying for proprietary storage nonsense. In a year or so MS will offer the Xbox-Series-X with double the storage for same price. In the mean time I will try to get most out of my Xbox-One-X
I will get the PS5 first because I am not paying for proprietary storage nonsense. In a year or so MS will offer the Xbox-Series-X with double the storage for same price. In the mean time I will try to get most out of my Xbox-One-X
LittleBusters
Banned
I/O is just one part of the pipeline. Sure assets will load into memory 2x faster than XSX, but after that it's slower processing of those assets in the engine for final rendering. The real test will be side-by-side gameplay.
LittleBusters
Banned
Sony Ponies will seize on any individual stat to declare superiority of PS5 > XSX, just like XBots will do the same. The real test will be Digital Foundry performing side-by-side gameplay of Cyberpunk 2077 later this year.
Kokoloko85
Member
Exactly. Doubt it will be a huge difference to what we are getting now with PS4 Pro and Xbox 1 X. Will probably be same price difference too,
Games are what matter. Edit I am a Sony Pony aswell as a Nitendo lover... my heart will always belong to Sega
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Flintty
Member
My favourite post today. I just laughed hard in bed, I think I disturbed the wife.The one you believe in with all your heart is the most powerful.
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME? HAVE YOU EVEN SEEN THE FLOPS AND THE DATA TRANSFER RATES AND BUS SPEED ON THESE SYSTEMS?
WITHER IN AGONY AS YOUR FAVORITE BRAND LOSES THE CONSOLE WAR BEFORE IT EVEN BEGINS
LittleBusters
Banned
Sega Genesis owner here(from 1989), my heart will always be Sega first.
Lionel Richie
Member
We have hardware truthers now? Xbox is obviously more powerful, if that means anything at the end of the day is another thing entirely, but raw power is pretty clearly set. "We have to wait and see" people are kidding themselves.
RayHell
Member
I get your point but dont make up stuff. Cpu is 8 core 16 threads.
Kokoloko85
Member
How will this ask developers to change the way they design code and make games etc? PS3 had a whole different engine and architecture
Kokoloko85
Member
Digital foundry says its not so obvious. Theres alot of difference between what counts as TFlops for a PS4 Pro and Xbox 1 X and PS5.
And also the number of CUs dont mean as much but speed. Its not so clear cut. And we’ll have to wait till side by sides
wordslaughter
Banned
Sure maybe comparing CU's of the PS5 to the PS4 isn't so clear cut but comparing the CU's in the PS5 to the XSX is.
The XSX is clearly and obviously more powerful. It will have framerate advantages, resolution advantages, raytracing advantages or all of the above compared to every PS5 multiplat.
The XSX is clearly and obviously more powerful. It will have framerate advantages, resolution advantages, raytracing advantages or all of the above compared to every PS5 multiplat.
