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[DeltaPolarBear]

Current Gen will stay for another 5-7 years. Makes no sense to pay for next gen when it isn't here yet.

 

[TikiLagoonSam]

The responses to this thread have become 1000x entertaining with todays news and I am loving reading every page

I just want to take a step back and ask:
Is videogaming even worth $1000?

Think about this through the eyes of the general consumer a company needs to make their business profitable. ONE. THOUSAND. DOLLARS. And thats before you buy any games to play on it.

 

[mckmas8808]

The responses to this thread have become 1000x entertaining with todays news and I am loving reading every page

I just want to take a step back and ask:
Is videogaming even worth $1000?

Think about this through the eyes of the general consumer a company needs to make their business profitable. ONE. THOUSAND. DOLLARS. And thats before you buy any games to play on it.

For 90% of the planet, the answer would be no.

 

[DeltaPolarBear]

The responses to this thread have become 1000x entertaining with todays news and I am loving reading every page

I just want to take a step back and ask:
Is videogaming even worth $1000?

Think about this through the eyes of the general consumer a company needs to make their business profitable. ONE. THOUSAND. DOLLARS. And thats before you buy any games to play on it.

It is also a pc. All my laptops cost more. Just the way the cookie crumbles.

 

[IDKFA]

This aged well.

To be fair, this was in November and before the AI crisis really got into full swing.

Also, I was technically correct about it not being a four figure sum as the cost of the base model is £879 in the UK.

It might be below a grand, but that's still an insane price that makes it DOA.

 

[pepeno]

It might be below a grand, but that's still an insane price that makes it DOA.

I wonder why people act as if rest of the pc market prices were significantly below that. Like people have this weird idea that they want to buy their pcs now with pre-crisis prices and judge everything based on that.

430$ is a cost of 32gb of ddr5 sticks where i live. Nearly HALF the price of valve cube. 16gb is half of that at around 215$. VRAM on gpus is even more expensive. So before you go to the drawing board you end up with 500-600$ in just memory prices of ram and VRAM. Then there is SSD.
Actual cost of this thing before crisis would be like 500 top, maybe 600 and that would include controller too.

 

[CraZed]

Most of us here are enthusiasts. According to this Valve engineer, the Steam Machine is equal or greater to 70% of the stuff Steam users are playing currently. They would know. It appears they're attempting to target the market they think wants a device like the Steam Machine the most. Mostly casuals.

The Gabecube might not be "next gen", but if it's good enough with features and quality of life people want, then it'll sell.

And many of them spent less that $1000 and especially $1400 on their setups. Doesn't take away the fact its over priced. You can actually build an AM5 SFF PC with a better CPU, 2tb storage AND a 9700 XT for less than the 2tb Steam machine with or without a controller. It's just not good enough.

 

[xenosys]

Poor timing to develop and launch this product, but some of that isn't on them. It's just unfortunate.

These specs at $750-$800 would have been more competitive.

As it is now, it's DOA. Only the Steam/Newell deep-throaters will be gobbling this up.

 

[Aurelius]

I think the Steam Machine is a good buy for casual PC owners who want the convenience of a console experience without being tied to one store and don't want to pay for MP. For me, the combination of PS5 Pro and Steamdeck still works the best.

 

[pepeno]

I think the Steam Machine is a good buy for casual PC owners who want the convenience of a console experience without being tied to one store and don't want to pay for MP.

And the prices. On Steam you could buy almost all capcom games for like $80 sans latest re. Try that with PS or MS.

 

[DeltaPolarBear]

And many of them spent less that $1000 and especially $1400 on their setups. Doesn't take away the fact its over priced. You can actually build an AM5 SFF PC with a better CPU, 2tb storage AND a 9700 XT for less than the 2tb Steam machine with or without a controller. It's just not good enough.

You can build for cheaper. Always been this way. But WILL you build?

Clearly Steam Machine is not for builders.

 

[YeulEmeralda]

The responses to this thread have become 1000x entertaining with todays news and I am loving reading every page

I just want to take a step back and ask:
Is videogaming even worth $1000?

Think about this through the eyes of the general consumer a company needs to make their business profitable. ONE. THOUSAND. DOLLARS. And thats before you buy any games to play on it.

Why do you think mobile phone gaming got big? Because everyone already has a smartphone and the games are free.

 

[Topher]

Now it makes more sense on why some users were defending Valve today The first page of this thread is pure gold…

You had nothing to say in this thread before the price reveal, but so how are you now here gloating?

 

[duck_sauce]

If you have an Xbox Series X or PS5, you can already play everything the Steam Machine will play in HIGHER FIDELITY (except really old pc games that any old pc can already play). The Steam Machine is CURRENT GEN but still not as powerful. Why would anyone who owns an XBOX Series X, a gaming PC, or a PS5 buy this? This would have been a contender 5 years ago if priced competitively and people didn't own current gen yet. It is 5 years too late AND will be more expensive than the current gen consoles.

Sure it'll have free multiplayer and the Steam Sales, but will you pay $800-$1000 to buy this thing if you already have a XBX or PS5?

Next gen begins the very next year after this is released. So this won't be able to play next gen unless compromises are made, which means you can play those on PS5 and XBX too. It just doesn't make sense to me for this purchase. Am I missing something here??


When I first heard the announcement for this my first thoughts were "XBOX is cooked" and I was hyped for a new hardware in the console space that can play everything! I have't played pc games since Sim City 2000 30 years ago. I'm strictly a console gamer. Never had a powerful PC. Then I realized, this isn't an option for next gen. This will just play what I already can in lower fidelity. So my hype has pretty much died for this thing.

Is this just for collectors and the few people that don't own any current gen systems? Maybe pc gamers that don't own a console?

I plan to buy a steam machine. My reasons are:

- small form factor
- steam Os
- I plan to play smaller indie games that only release on steam and not on PS5

 

[Cr1ptkeeper]

The responses to this thread have become 1000x entertaining with todays news and I am loving reading every page

I just want to take a step back and ask:
Is videogaming even worth $1000?

Think about this through the eyes of the general consumer a company needs to make their business profitable. ONE. THOUSAND. DOLLARS. And thats before you buy any games to play on it.

Yes.
So many hobbies that cost around or more than a 1000$.

 

[Sophist]

The responses to this thread have become 1000x entertaining with todays news and I am loving reading every page

I just want to take a step back and ask:
Is videogaming even worth $1000?

Think about this through the eyes of the general consumer a company needs to make their business profitable. ONE. THOUSAND. DOLLARS. And thats before you buy any games to play on it.

PC has always been more expansive than console. in the beginning of the 90's, a decent config to play doom was easily $3000 with inflation adjusted . The truth is that pc gaming was always a luxury except for a little period around the 2010's.

 

[Guilty_AI]

The responses to this thread have become 1000x entertaining with todays news and I am loving reading every page

I just want to take a step back and ask:
Is videogaming even worth $1000?

Think about this through the eyes of the general consumer a company needs to make their business profitable. ONE. THOUSAND. DOLLARS. And thats before you buy any games to play on it.

Whats the point of making fun of predictions done before the AI bubble? The price was originally set to be 750 (which was much closer to the 699 people were throwing) then everything went to shit and everyone is losing, including console users.

 

[MisterXDTV]

Not sure a RTX 3050 equivalent GPU is considered "Current Gen" in the PC space

It's better than Series S, that's it

 

[PeteBull]

I guess that's the same problem Switch 2 has as well, except it's not even current gen.

Switch2 is current gen handheld, has weak gpu and pretty weak cpu too but it has 12gigs of vram, ssd, ai upscaling and rt capabilities(not saying they are great, but they exist), which is staple of current gen.

 

[rodrigolfp]

Great if you're into indies (and are willing to ignore the ridiculous price) but it's not even close to being a AAA machine.

Valve going with their 4K/60fps****** marketing is fucking retarded. The only thing more retarded are the people who will buy it expecting its capable of that kind of performance.

99% of games will be able to run at 4k/60fps. Unlike the PS5 were only a few reach that. Is Valve retarded or people like you that don't know how a gaming PC works??

 

[PeteBull]

Current Gen will stay for another 5-7 years. Makes no sense to pay for next gen when it isn't here yet.

Or we can just get similary priced much stronger midrange pc and if some1 is exclusively console gamer he waits 1,5year to buy much better value ps6

 

[KU_]

I guess that's the same problem Switch 2 has as well, except it's not even current gen.

Except the Switch 2 is less than half the price of the GabeCube, and still features modern architecture and features.

 

[rodrigolfp]

Except the Switch 2 is less than half the price of the GabeCube, and still features modern architecture and features.

The only thing modern is DLSS, and still is a potato version of it.

 

[KU_]

The only thing modern is DLSS, and still is a potato version of it.

Which is better than anything current gen consoles can say.

 

[rodrigolfp]

Which is better than anything current gen consoles can say.

Not better than PS5 Pro PSSR2 and FSR4 this thing will have.

 

[RCX]

99% of games will be able to run at 4k/60fps. Unlike the PS5 were only a few reach that. Is Valve retarded or people like you that don't know how a gaming PC works??

You mean the 99% of indies that I already included that anyone could run on a $400 laptop, which can be plugged into a tv with an hdmi cord? Its the AAA space where its going to be judged and its already obvious that its struggling mightily in that area.

People are being asked to pay an insane premium for a SFF box. End of story. Feel free to burn that money if you want to but dont kid yourself that its something that its not.

 

[rodrigolfp]

You mean the 99% of indies that I already included that anyone could run on a $400 laptop, which can be plugged into a tv with an hdmi cord? Its the AAA space where its going to be judged and its already obvious that its struggling mightily in that area.

People are being asked to pay an insane premium for a SFF box. End of story. Feel free to burn that money if you want to but dont kid yourself that its something that its not.

Indies like WoW Midnight, Skyrim, Doom's, yeah... /s