I have no idea either, other than what few descriptions Blow has given that gave me that impression. I could be totally wrong, but I can't really imagine another way of doing it that would be anything other than a chore to play
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The Witness - Release Date Trailer, coming 26th January 2016
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I have no idea either, other than what few descriptions Blow has given that gave me that impression. I could be totally wrong, but I can't really imagine another way of doing it that would be anything other than a chore to play
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
Blow has alluded to using the biomes and object design to help mitigate this kind of ambiguity. He tries to communicate through the environment where you should be looking for relevant information. I think it was in an interview posted in this thread in the last few days.
The puzzles consists of a very streamlined interface. They are not completely self-contained as such, meaning sometimes you have to get the clues on what you need to do in the game from the environment, but the actual puzzle presentation and how you interact with it is completely identical for all of them. At least from what little Blow has shown so far. (I am expecting there to be super secret stuff, where it is not obvious, though. Braid had such elements also)
Actually totally forgot Witness was coming to PC too...now I'm not sure what console to get it for.
On one hand I literally just bought £70 worth of PSN cards for £50ish (Thanks amazon) for Witness and Digimon the week after, but if Witness will get more frequent updates and better performance on PC, may be better there...
On one hand I literally just bought £70 worth of PSN cards for £50ish (Thanks amazon) for Witness and Digimon the week after, but if Witness will get more frequent updates and better performance on PC, may be better there...
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but will it be stable or jump around like crazy, creating stutter?
Reviews will be out on Monday 10am PST, I'm sure they'll address those concerns.
toythatkills
Member
Well there's no music, so it could be about right.
probably, the steam page wasn't up till a few days ago if im correct
Didn't know it didn't have any music. Will use every Tortoise record as custom ost.
TheKastorian
Member
That would be totally awesome. Damn...Fez was so good...
paperspace
Member
It's worth noting download (compressed) size ≠ installed (decompressed) size ≠ storage requirement.
Skyrim (installed) is 10GB with high-res textures.
We only know The Witness requires 4GB.
Guy LeDouche
Banned
I wonder if it's a case where everything you need to solve the puzzle is in the game itself versus crowdsourcing on the Internet
WHAT? There will be no music at all ???
Deputy Dangle
Member
Well, Blow did say at PSX 2014 that there might be one song somewhere. He also pointed out it wouldn't be the song from the 2013 trailer too.
I knew that but it's still a shame. That song and the one from the release date trailer are both fantastic.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
It may be some comfort that the game's sound designer has a pretty strong resume.
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LordKinbote
Neo Member
If other people want this, that's fine. But I really hope that everything in The Witness is something that I have the chance of solving entirely by myself. Crowdsourced puzzle solves are rarely satisfying to me. I spend hours trying to crack something only to find, oops, someone in Singapore figured it out last night.
I was very much turned off by that aspect of Fez. What I'm hoping for is something more akin to Braid, where the puzzles can all be solved, despite some being quite difficult. But there are additional layers to the narrative and deep secrets (the stars) that take the game further. I never did the stars in that game, but they were non-essential and fascinating to read about. While the stuff in Fez just stopped my progress cold.
I suspect that kind of stuff will be more hidden in plain sight in The Witness, a mix of more challenging and accessible puzzles along side one another. And that's the reason you can skip puzzles, and "beat" the game with 7 of 11 areas completed.
I've been playing a lot of games via remote play on the Vita - this seems like something that would be perfect for it, I'm presuming the control scheme will be relatively simple and it won't require lightning reflexes (although obviously I don't know for certain.)
Looking forward to this one.
Looking forward to this one.
For me, Fez wasn't satisfying because of crowdsourced puzzles. I deliberately avoided any online guides for Fez because I wanted to figure it out myself.
What I loved about Fez was that it convinced me that it was OK to break out a pen and paper to do some true puzzle solving on my own. I thought I'd never do that, but then the game was so well designed that I ended up wanting to.
The lateral thinking required by Fez is what I'm hoping to get out of The Witness.
That's a total re-invention of the game. I cannot see no matter how small your team is how you can so woefully predict your launch date.
Wok
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The Illiterati
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I know nothing about coding so someone other than me could say if this has something to do with A) Blow's new programming language B) making the game harder to datamine.
Wok
Member
It is actually just that Blow wants the simplest experience for non-Steam users.
"How do I deliver the game to a casual person?"
Interesting question. It's easy to forget sometimes how tough it is to manage "camera control" in first person games. Myst etc. solved it by having fixed perspectives. But I think there are going to be precious few moms who are totally new to games and who can enjoy this game.
Interesting question. It's easy to forget sometimes how tough it is to manage "camera control" in first person games. Myst etc. solved it by having fixed perspectives. But I think there are going to be precious few moms who are totally new to games and who can enjoy this game.
More_Badass
Member
My dad used to play Resident Evil 2 and Gran Turismo, but nowadays he can't handle modern controls. Move with left, while simultaneously look with right, while holding this button to aim and that one to shoot, etc. Too complex for him
That's nuts.
I guarantee you the amount of relevant exposure a game gets today in the windows 10 store is a small, tiny fraction of on Steam -- even accounting for orders of magnitude more competition.
I know a lot of people who use Windows 10, but I don't think I've met anyone who's bought something through the Windows Store for their PC...
bodyofanamerican
Member
Hm. If he's doing an iOS version, how difficult would it be to do a tvOS version for the Apple TV?
I hope the PS4 version is around that size since there's no pre-loading. I want to be able to play it day 1 and not just watch a download progress bar.
That's because the content isn't there right now.
But if the content was there, then all Blow would need to do is link someone to the store.
A few clicks later, the customer has the game, and it's ready to play.
Look, I work for Microsoft so obviously my viewpoint here is biased. I'm just stating the fact that if Blow's problem is trying to figure out how to package a game in such a way that a non-gamer can easily purchase it and play it without installing Steam, that's exactly the reason why the Store exists.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
There's no time pressure or danger in the game, though. You couldn't ask for a better scenario in which to learn an unfamiliar control scheme.
OrbitalBeard
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Not if it's $40. Heck, even if it's $10, he's going to have a hard time selling it. I'm really curious about how he plans on pricing the mobile version.
Icyflamez96
Member
26th so soon yet so far
There's nothing like Fez's awful QR code puzzle, but remember that Fez was heavily inspired by Braid, and The Witness is basically Super Braid, sooo...
And again, I know I have mentioned this several times, but I strongly encourage everyone to take their time, and take frequent breaks. Bashed my head against a puzzle for a long time last night. Beat it first try today, after looking at it with fresh eyes. Of course, there's another progress-stopping puzzle that I bashed my head against for even longer, and I'm still just as stumped on that one... but I won't give in. Maybe just one more night's sleep...