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Trump pressures Democrats on Obamacare to get border wall deal
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RPGCrazied
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McCain and Graham will! j/k, they just talk tough with no action unfortunately.
The country can go to shit if that's the game Trump wants to play. Withholding funds for healthcare to try and get funding for his pet project is disgusting. Shut it all down before giving him the luxury of wasting my tax money even further.
The crazy thing about that is if they were all in sync the country would still go to shit.
Their views and policies don't better the country or its people. Unless you're rich or a corporation.
RPGCrazied
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Well, a government shutdown would cripple his presidency right? Maybe we should hope for one after all.
NoFaceNico
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When he held his entire party controlled government hostage to fund his wall was the moment he became President.
TarpitCarnivore
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I'm waiting for the day Trump realizes heroin addiction is through the roof because of doctors giving away oxy like candy and blames that on Obamacare.
The Shadow
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This can only backfire on Trump and the republicans, but my biggest fear is the neo-dems and moderates go along with this. Dems in the house and senate seem so weak-willed and desperate for votes now.
Well, you can definitely see why he's so fixated on the election. He never got the praise he wanted.Trump said:
The house doesn't have enough dem votes to block it right? I assume it's on the Senate?
Frost Walrus
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No one in their right mind should take the bait. There's a 0% chance he'd uphold his end of the "deal" anyway.
The senate won't pass it with 60 votes and othing has indicated that any of them would fold on this budget if he includes his dumb wall.
WhiteRabbitEXE
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Literally no.
RPGCrazied
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Oh my goodness. LOL
He really is a 70 year old man in a teenagers body. What have you done America? This is so pathetic.
I imagine he needs to talk to friends to have someone to rage to and reinforce his ego.
Do you think he has actual friends to do this with or just people who feel obligated to talk to him because he is either their boss, family, or the President?
do you mean teenager in a 70 year old's body? because otherwise you know some strange looking teenagers...
Naturally, they're people who want benefits.
This is pathetic. You have a man child for a president but a good chunk of your populace still wants the crybaby over a competent woman.
What happened, America :/
j_k_redtail
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The Democrats, for all their faults,
haven't been the problem for a long time now.
Chuck Norris
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Well Hilary disappearing into the woods has done her no favours
Let's see how he stacks up with someone active like Bernie
This transcript scares the hell out of me. He really has no cognizant speaking ability whatsoever. "Great..." "Great...." "Great deal....."
Yeah. It was pretty difficult to read through.
Darryl M R
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America no longer felt the need to hide racism and sexism. Nothing else changed. This was always there.
The Democratic Party is a disgrace. 2018 will be a disaster for the Democratic Party, that's for sure.
https://twitter.com/matthewstoller/status/856138901240651776
RPGCrazied
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To be fair the majority of Americans don't want Trump. And if wasn't for the electoral college she would be President, not him. I refuse to give in.
I don't know. I think it's more that why bother voting for someone that was destined to lose. Popular vote didn't not win the election, so why bother if you weren't a huge fan of Clinton anyway.
The real poll should be asking if the people that abstained from voting, especially in highly contested areas, would they have changed their mind and actually voted for a viable candidate
Well, what the Reuters article is pointing out rather snarkily by their sentence right after his statement about MS-13 is that they were started by Central American/Salvadorean migrants. Nothing about those Mexican rapists.
Of course, then we get into the lunacy that is trying to build a border wall when the vast majority of illegal immigrants come in legally one way or another and simply overstay their visas, but the ship has sailed on trying to talk to people about sensible immigration reform.
If only Ellis were party chair, it would fix everything!
And yet if they reran the election after the worst 100 day period since 1945, she'd still lose.
I'm glad you're not giving in, and you shouldn't and I hope you guys recover (Obama won twice!) but it still scares the shit out of me.
old manatee
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Because the Democrats are spineless and as the above polls show, as bad as things are going, people will still vote Republican.
Carpe Libertatem
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But we don't rerun elections like this, so what is the point of even thinking about it? Polls like that are meaningless.
Yeah and? This isn't the Bush administration.
What would you have the Democrats do?
Also it is one poll. Predicting 2018 doom is premature especially after the Democratic gains in the deep red areas of the recent special elections.
Premium Quality
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Trump should just put the wall project up on Kickstarter. Everyone wins.
Imagine if Trump had a Karl Rove instead of a Steve Bannon
Why should people vote for a party in 2018 which is out of touch with their concerns? You won't win an election with "But but Trump", Hillary tried and lost tremendously.
Not so sure about that considering GA-06/KS-04, favorability polls, town Halls, etc. when it comes to energy/engagement. This not even including the amount of Ls Trump and the GOP have taken thus far, all closing out with the threat of a government shutdown to bring in the 100 day mark.
old manatee
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You asked why Trump thinks he can strong arm the Democrats. It seemed relevant to point out the rich Democratic​ tradition of folding like a cheap suit.
DontBeThatGuy
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What does that even mean.
Carpe Libertatem
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Are you familiar at all with how midterm elections have worked for basically the entirety of U.S. history since the Civil War?
So the same people that say we can't trust polls because of Hillary v Trump, are saying we
Need to trust THIS poll about a reelection of 2016 right now?
Electric Eye
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I think you fell for the "pressures" part of the tittle. There is no pressure on the Dems at all. This is all on the GOP they have the keys to everything and keep driving in circles. This is a weak ass president with nowhere near Bush administration levels of pull.
Icebergslim
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I'm really hoping Dems just call his bluff. Cause that's all this shit is. A big fucking bluff.
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