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vg247-PS4: new kits shipping now, AMD A10 used as base, final version next summer
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Iacobellis
Junior Member
And look at what I found below that. http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/sony-to-announce-ps4-in-february-rumour/0108911
thehypocrite
Member
I think PS4 will use a version of the Playstation OS. Thus I think it might have Vita SOC for that.
http://new.livestream.com/TheVerge/events/1779987/videos/8946270
The fact he went out and specifically pointed out the Playstation OS makes me think that they'll have a smaller SOC to handle OS duties. What better thing to use than the Vita SOC. This will also allow them to have better economies of scale with the Vita and PS orbis.
What do you guys think?
http://new.livestream.com/TheVerge/events/1779987/videos/8946270
The fact he went out and specifically pointed out the Playstation OS makes me think that they'll have a smaller SOC to handle OS duties. What better thing to use than the Vita SOC. This will also allow them to have better economies of scale with the Vita and PS orbis.
What do you guys think?
Rösti;46363290 said:
I'll take 8k 4:4:4 at 120Hz, thanks
They don't break any of that down though - usually there would be lower frame rates for higher resolutions based on transmission limitations. They just list all resolutions, all colour depths and all framerates. And nothing about 3D. Not hugely useful - surely HDMI 2.0 would be a specific subset of that?
iceatcs
Junior Member
I have suspect it might have something like mini computer reserve (SOC?) for OS. Especially with the old MS next box rumour about one of a secondary cpu will be ARM CPU which they dump this idea. That ARM could be plan for OS, but it may be for tablet app emulator from Window 8 RT.
That rumour is dead now. The latest seem MS will plan OS reserve on some of CPU's cores.
I would like to see to have OS SOC on console to allow keep way game memory footprint and more smooth multi-task between game running if there is great bridge speed.
thehypocrite
Member
I think that will happen. That also would explain why they haven't spent too much time in the OS as they would be using the Vita OS and adapting it for PS4.
pharmboy044
Member
I'm assuming you are talking about the guts of the Vita OS and the UI? The UI makes absolutely no sense to port over to the PS4.
Regarding the UI, I really hope Sony ditches the XMB. I want something a little more inviting.
Evolution_1ne
Banned
what's more inviting than the XMB?
thehypocrite
Member
I'm talking about the Vita SOC and the functionality of the Vita OS. I also think there's no longer a Vita OS it's Playstation OS according to Kaz. Reading between the lines this is a likely scenario.
The VITA SOC to handle OS/UI tasks and the APU for gaming tasks.
ChanDangle
Member
Intro sound like they use to have, I want a new one.
Placing Vita SoC on PS4? Interesting idea.
Actually early presentation before even E3 would actially benefit both MS and Sony if they plan to release consoles this year. They could drive up their marketing campain much earlier to show people that new consoles are coming.
July to november is a small amount of time to do global scale marketing campain on all levels. This would give us reason why there are so many early leaks.
February ? March ?
July to november is a small amount of time to do global scale marketing campain on all levels. This would give us reason why there are so many early leaks.
February ? March ?
ALBOFIGHTER
Member
Would a vita SoC enable BC for ps3 games? Either way, if they use 4gb gddr5 then they should not waste any of it on OS
thehypocrite
Member
BradleyLove
Member
I'd be all over that. IMO it's what they should have done with Home instead of the dead-eyed automons they delivered.
Dr.Palutena
Member
I'd take anything so long as it's not like the home avatars. Though I cant say I'm actually wanting for this.
pharmboy044
Member
I think it's kinda boring/bland.
Care about simplicity and easy
Gamerwillz
Neo Member
1080p at 60fps is impressive, but Sony got to release some good exclusives to convince me to purchase the console.
Because all multiplatform games are better on PC.
Because all multiplatform games are better on PC.
You need to understand themes son. Ever heard of Nancy Callahan of Sin City? Nothing boring about that xmb.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=qp9gFQlp3sE
How?
All the talk about the OS they have been talking about buying content at the click of a button jumping from game to store and back into game play aint they so it seems it will be taking vita route from snippets ive herd im hoping for a early reveal so that they can see how bad a error nintendo done in this leaving it only like a short time from pre orders to sale date.
I wouldn't mind using Hot Shots characters.
-Pyromaniac-
Member
it's actually really great. I love how fast you can just put a game to sleep, pop open another app, put that one to sleep, do something else. Close apps, open ones. Only delays are when you open new apps (for the first time, reopening is very smooth) but it's nothing notable.
PS4 just needs that kind of functionality as well as to expand on the wole Live tile idea which is basically like the miiverse. Really good stuff in there.
iamvin22
Industry Verified
very smooth imo.
Very smoothly. It's basically like a smartphone in that regard.
Evolution_1ne
Banned
like a hot knife through butter
iamvin22
Industry Verified
even the store has a smooth transition from dash board to store to dash board to game. its very silky.
Cheers did not even know there was a place for custom themes, always assumed only the ones from the store worked.
While I would assume that it has universal in-game custom soundtrack option like the 360, does it feature anything amounting to cross game chat?
To me it looks like vita attains all this with 256MB lpddr3 ram dedicated to OS. I'm really beginning to wonder if ps4 legitimately requires 1GB of GDDR5 ram given what has already been achieved on vita...
What say you fellas?
Yeah it has a feature called Party Chat which is cross game chat. Vita also has 4GB of flash memory for OS and updates.
I already said this and I'm sticking to it. There will be ram reserved for os and this will be separate from the main GDDR5 ram. Vita is a great example of this.
Wasn't there a rumour that ps4 will also feature flash memory for the os and its updates?
Explain please, about vita being a great example.
Yup there was, 16GB to be precise. We heard nothing about it since, but we didn't hear about Vit'as 4GB until like a month or so after the western release as well when someone tore it open and really looked around.
Really?
Iacobellis
Junior Member
Great hardware is nothing without great software. Microsoft has the potential to make a huge splash with new IPs, but at this point, the ball is in Sony's court.
EDIT: Wait, do you mean the bill of materials?
Dark_AnNiaLatOr
Member
Wouldn't that all depend on what other stuff is being bundled with the consoles though? But if you're only talking about the console hardware itself, I'd guess Durango since the CPU is really custom, right?
Edit: I retract my statement, I don't have enough conputer knowledge to make a valid claim.
McHuj
Member
Really depends on the cost of the RAM. If PS4 has 4GB of GDDR5, imo, that will be the most expensive part of the console.
thehypocrite
Member
Seems to me that Durango would be that one. However the unknowns are too great. (Kinect/Controls/Omni Viewer/etc)
Yeah and like mentioned above, I'm also hoping the MM R&D project is about this. I love XMB but it lacks...personality.
Yep that's a good alternative too
I recall reading that the Vita has separate video ram and system ram. I don't remember anything about a third ram type for the OS.
The only way the OS isn't going into the GDDR5 ram is if it's for the GPU only, and there's another 4 GB of system ram no one's talking about.
more expensive then GPU?!
That would be best , but imo it would increse the cost by a lot, so I doubt it.
I've heard there were points in the PS3's life where the XDR was the most expensive component. Wouldn't surprise me if it happens again.