Come on, get off the "she still spent money" part, it's silly. You can't not "spend" money just by virtue of being alive. Do you own property? Even if it's 100% paid off you might as well divide your property tax by the day and count that as spending money, even if you're out camping and not using the property, even if you're in Azerbaijan, even if you're fixing the Hubble in space you're being charged for that day. Same with cable, Internet, insurane, gas, water, electric, doesn't matter if you're not physically using it, there is a minimum they'll charge you and it isn't zero. There's no way she's mistaken the two types of expenditures and we shouldn't either.
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Woman goes 24 hours without spending any money. So proud she writes an article.
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Ignatz Mouse
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ainyK6fXku0
Edit: btw, analyst is an entry level position in finance-- it's basically "research clerk" if I understand it correctly.
Edit: btw, analyst is an entry level position in finance-- it's basically "research clerk" if I understand it correctly.
Shotgun Kiss
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What the fuck? This haughty bitch sees fit to write an article bragging about how she went one day without pissing away money on luxuries (while at the same time obviously bragging about having that kind of lifestyle to begin with)? How is this an accomplishment?
At least the article's not on: Will I save money washing Ziploc bags?
80 * 240 working days = $19,200 pissed away on restaurant food (for one,) coffee and taxis.
I know it's easy to spend money in NYC but damn.
Her point is valid (most people have little routines, $4 coffee here, $5 muffin there, $2 snack here that do add up.) I remember when I calculated how much going to fast food for lunch everyday was costing me (in addition to gas wasted sitting in line/driving there) and it's astonishing.
It wasn't $19,200 though :lol
I know it's easy to spend money in NYC but damn.
Her point is valid (most people have little routines, $4 coffee here, $5 muffin there, $2 snack here that do add up.) I remember when I calculated how much going to fast food for lunch everyday was costing me (in addition to gas wasted sitting in line/driving there) and it's astonishing.
It wasn't $19,200 though :lol
ITT: Gaf hates successful people who frankly writes an useless articles but is a nice insight into the people who have excess money.
Really GAF, it's not a sin to be upper class. She seems like a smart girl with excess money, but what can you do. She probably doesn't enjoy life as much as some people here do.
Really GAF, it's not a sin to be upper class. She seems like a smart girl with excess money, but what can you do. She probably doesn't enjoy life as much as some people here do.
elrechazado
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This is as good as that article on how to feed for family for 500 dollars a month or some crazy amount from a few months ago.
RustyNails
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I honestly cannot make the connection myself. Even if she took one finance class at Harvard, how is it still a qualification for landing an Analyst job at Morgan Stanley? I mean, how the fuck did her resume even get selected?Shanadeus said:
"We're looking to hire a financial analyst at Morgan Stanley, one of the biggest financial institutions in the country. Lets see what we got here. Harvard graduate? Good. Magna cum laude? Good. Major in Psychology, Romance languages & Literature? Good. Thesis on Bhutan's development? HIRE HER NOW!"
Let alone her interview for the job...I shudder to think what was even asked.
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
:lolMaxSteel said:
A CEO's personal time isn't more valuable.
I like her solution to spending money when hanging out with friends. Have them bring you food and wine, then throw together something from left over products in your own cupboard to feed them.
Hmm, I've got an almost finished jar of peanut butter, frozen spinach and olive oil that I am looking to get rid of, time to invite over my best buds!
Hmm, I've got an almost finished jar of peanut butter, frozen spinach and olive oil that I am looking to get rid of, time to invite over my best buds!
So many comments here borderlining sexist...
Bottomline is, she's a Harvard graduate, what do you expect ? They got vast connections and can get their alumni really good jobs after graduation. People who are in the positions she's in rarely make food anyways because they often eat out and network or simply due to the lack of time to prepare food at home. This applies to both guys and girls in similar position. You guys would all be doing the same thing too if you're in her position.
Bottomline is, she's a Harvard graduate, what do you expect ? They got vast connections and can get their alumni really good jobs after graduation. People who are in the positions she's in rarely make food anyways because they often eat out and network or simply due to the lack of time to prepare food at home. This applies to both guys and girls in similar position. You guys would all be doing the same thing too if you're in her position.
ElectricBlue187
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NetMapel said:
Most rich people would have the common decency to at least be slightly modest or coy about it in public so as not to look like a humongous douche.
The "let them eat cake" quote is perfect
Did she grow up rich ?Shanadeus said:
What I think is that this article's target audience is not any of us. Hardly any of us go to any personal wealth management firm anyways to manage our wealth because there isn't much to be managed in the first place. It is obvious that her article is intended for people closer to her economic and social status.ElectricBlue187 said:
You work at Morgan Stanely or other private trading firms for 14 hours a day or something and see if you got time to make food for yourself everyday !
Sho_Nuff82
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She sounds like my roommate.
I think he calculated sometime last fall (he's a lawyer) that he was spending something like $800 a month on just food, because he was eating out for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
He's between jobs atm, so he at least attempts to cook himself dinner 2-3x a week now, though he'll still go driving halfway around town to find his favorite spots for breakfast and lunch.
The timing of the job has nothing to do with it. People like my friend, who's home now 20 hrs a day, still for some reason "can't find the time" to cook themselves a decent meal, sweep the floor, or wash the dishes, because they weren't accustomed to doing it their entire lives. There's nothing about their morning routine that says they can't put together a pb&j before they walk out the door, and frankly I find the insinuation that other people don't work hard at their jobs rather insulting. I know grad students and post-docs who put in 80 hr weeks on the regular and they have no problem not blowing their stipends on cab-rides and Starbucks.
And as soon as he finds another job, he'll go right back to spending the way he was.
I think he calculated sometime last fall (he's a lawyer) that he was spending something like $800 a month on just food, because he was eating out for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
He's between jobs atm, so he at least attempts to cook himself dinner 2-3x a week now, though he'll still go driving halfway around town to find his favorite spots for breakfast and lunch.
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The timing of the job has nothing to do with it. People like my friend, who's home now 20 hrs a day, still for some reason "can't find the time" to cook themselves a decent meal, sweep the floor, or wash the dishes, because they weren't accustomed to doing it their entire lives. There's nothing about their morning routine that says they can't put together a pb&j before they walk out the door, and frankly I find the insinuation that other people don't work hard at their jobs rather insulting. I know grad students and post-docs who put in 80 hr weeks on the regular and they have no problem not blowing their stipends on cab-rides and Starbucks.
And as soon as he finds another job, he'll go right back to spending the way he was.
RustyNails
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She starts her diarrhea of an article with these words:NetMapel said:
She casts no illusions as to who her audience is. I spend around $5 a day on food and snacks so obviously I was interested in reading the article. $30-$35 a week on food for me is way too high. Imagine the surprise when I found out that $30-$35 is what she spends on one single meal.
And yeah, its possible to eat at home even when you're pretty well off. I've seen doctors cooking food and eating at home.
Who knows, I grew up rich and I'm not incapable of living frugally and minimalistic.NetMapel said:
She probably grew up barely doing anything herself through hard work.
Gad, taking a cab when her work is 20 minutes away. And what kind of crappy food does she generally eat to find a pasta with peas and tomato vodka sauce tasty?
This comment annoys me. Had it been a man he would be called a total douchebag and you know it. Why should we be any less scathing in our criticism just because it is a woman?NetMapel said:
I have noticed this as a bothersome trend - woman being offended that men would even have the audacity to criticize them!
Get over yourself, you are not above criticism and you do not have the right not to be offended.
I don't like her actions any more than you guys, but I see a lot more jealously and unfounded assumptions than actual facts here about her. Plus, it looks to me like she lives a lot like other CEOs or rich people so I don't know why you guys are singling her out and bashing her this way. So we got a few talented multitasking doctors or whatever who can work hard and still make food for themselves... good for them but that's still just anecdotal evidence. Personally, I rarely see a lot of CEOs or people in those positions eat the food they cook themselves. If they bring food, it's usually by their wife or girlfriend (well, all the CEOs I've personally known are guys).
I've seen way too many examples here on GAF where if it's a topic about gays or blacks, the aggressive tone is far less than a topic about woman. Now THIS is an annoying trend. I'm sure this topic would have taken a different tone if somebody else wrote this exact same article.DennisK4 said:
Oh please, the favorite pastime on GAF is for guys to call other guys douchebags for everything and nothing.
I don't really see anything in this thread to do about her gender - its all about her sense of entitlement and how far removed she seems from most people.
To you it just instantly became about gender somehow.
Edit: in fairness, I suppose the comments about her sleeping her way to the job can be seen as sexist.
I don't really see anything in this thread to do about her gender - its all about her sense of entitlement and how far removed she seems from most people.
To you it just instantly became about gender somehow.
Edit: in fairness, I suppose the comments about her sleeping her way to the job can be seen as sexist.
SapientWolf
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It may come off as a little tactless but the article has some good points for discussion. I think everyone here can cut their expenses by not purchasing unnecessary things but there is a point where it starts to have a negative effect on your perceived quality of life.
For example, I can save money by not buying any fruit juice but I love fruit juice so that would have a huge impact on me. So instead I save money on things I care little about, like clothing. I could stop buying video games but I would rather save by not eating out.
I'm curious to know what GAFfers consider to be their "luxury items."
For example, I can save money by not buying any fruit juice but I love fruit juice so that would have a huge impact on me. So instead I save money on things I care little about, like clothing. I could stop buying video games but I would rather save by not eating out.
I'm curious to know what GAFfers consider to be their "luxury items."
Hasphat'sAnts
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Shanadeus said:
ibanks are funny that way.
Regulus Tera
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Who the fuck gives 32.50 bucks of tip?!
Although I agree with the general sentiment of this thread, I find a lot of comments here totally bewildering.
Why would she take a taxi instead of the bus? Are you fucking kidding me?! Come to NYC, get on a bus, tell me if you see any middle-upper-class white female executives on it. Hell, get on a few buses and report back to me.
And food-wise, NYC just has this learned/ingrained take-out/eat-out mentality. Some people barely use their own kitchens. It's hard to step outside your apartment without spending money and for better or worse this attitude is encouraged.
Why would she take a taxi instead of the bus? Are you fucking kidding me?! Come to NYC, get on a bus, tell me if you see any middle-upper-class white female executives on it. Hell, get on a few buses and report back to me.
And food-wise, NYC just has this learned/ingrained take-out/eat-out mentality. Some people barely use their own kitchens. It's hard to step outside your apartment without spending money and for better or worse this attitude is encouraged.
evil solrac v3.0
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NetMapel said:
I think most of us wouldn't have written an article about how we didn't spend money, that's the bottom line. MALE or FEMALE.
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