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Xbox mobile app push notification says Black Ops 6 on Game Pass Day One
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Bond007
Member
I dont see this moving the needle a whole lot. If you dont have an Xbox already i dont see you swapping consoles because its "free" on Gamepass.
I have all the consoles and I wont be reupping my gamepass just for this since i rather stay on the playstation ecosystem, controller and with friends. Thats even if i buy it this year
I have all the consoles and I wont be reupping my gamepass just for this since i rather stay on the playstation ecosystem, controller and with friends. Thats even if i buy it this year
ManaByte
Rage Bait Youtuber
I’ve always had it stacked 3 years. When they raised the GPU price they didn’t reduce me down. No one does that. It’s an immediate lawsuit.
Why would you think ‘moving the needle’ for Xbox has to involve swapping consoles?
Pretty sure there’s no way anyone on this forum doesn’t know COD is an annual mega seller.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Pray tell, what older days are you talking about?
There has been an annual CoD game since 2005.
StereoVsn
Member
It’s going to be interesting to see the outcome. I do wonder if and by how much GamePass with COD tier will go up.
Personally I am skeptical that this is going to help shore up GamePass or convert meaningful new players to the sub and / or Xbox, but it will certainly be fascinating to watch.
Personally I am skeptical that this is going to help shore up GamePass or convert meaningful new players to the sub and / or Xbox, but it will certainly be fascinating to watch.
midnightAI
Member
Yes, most likely, but some of the CoD die hards will just buy the game as it's cheaper in the long run, many only play CoD and nothing else. For casuals, maybe they will get Gamepass for a month or two as mentioned but it only artificially inflated Gamepass, but yes, it would lose them money because of that.
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
From where I sit, I don't particularly care about COD (you can find posts where I say it repeatedly in discussions about the Activision acquisition), I will play it on Gamepass, but I'm not jumping for joy or anything.
I am surprised however at how many people are certain that the biggest game in the world (between COD or GTA, obvs) being on Gamepass will not make any difference to the appeal of the platform. I'm not saying it'll transform things at all, but it obviously has the potential to make Gamepass and Microsoft's platforms more enticing.
Surely any reasonable assessment would have to accept that?
I am surprised however at how many people are certain that the biggest game in the world (between COD or GTA, obvs) being on Gamepass will not make any difference to the appeal of the platform. I'm not saying it'll transform things at all, but it obviously has the potential to make Gamepass and Microsoft's platforms more enticing.
Surely any reasonable assessment would have to accept that?
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
djjinx2
Member
Sorry if already mentioned but over half of PlayStation CoD players still play on PS4
Mr.ODST
Member
Word of mouth is a powerful tool, i work in video game marketing and its the strongest proposition, youll get xbox players saying “i got cod with my gamepass” to a kid who has to pay full £70 and it changes narratives to kids wanting an Xbox.
There is also that sentiment that games are “free” with your game pass and if you add that word against someone who has to pay it could move a needle
Most people on here live in a bubble or are just blatant Sony Fanboys, i main PS5 myself but annoys me when people shovel something off because its xbox, the general public literally only play service games like OW, COD, Destiny, Fortnite
XXL
Member
Here are the direct quotes..Hell, there was that Bond thread recently where she said the entire slate of first party games is coming day one to GamePass and some of these people tried arguing that “entire slate” was double speak and meant no CoD
Q: "When you say first party will be available day one on Game Pass, does that include Activision games and Call of Duty?"
A: "Across the whole slate, across the whole slate, you're going to see really amazing things on Game Pass."
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Topher
Gold Member
Could be it is Game Pass Ultimate only and they don't have any changes to the tiers. Not sure. I think Microsoft must have run a ton of projections about how all this will play out. Could be they don't expect any major change to Game Pass numbers which means they do not expect significant loss in revenue. The big question in my mind is whether this will make a difference on PC. If PC has a major shift to Game Pass for Call of Duty then that will be huge.
I really don't think we will have a clear perspective on any of this until a full year of financial reports have been provided.
Pelta88
Member
No need to speculate. MS went to court and to regulators showcasing the financial loss they’d incur if COD were to be included in GP. Bobby Kotic himself took the stand and said ATVI can’t make a return from GP. We’ve just reached a point where XB leadership are like…
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MisterXDTV
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This will only tank Call of Duty sales on the "Xbox/MS Store" to zero...
Nobody will switch console just for Call of Duty, it's not even exclusive
Nobody will switch console just for Call of Duty, it's not even exclusive
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
XXL
Member
My point is was it wasn't a confirmation at that time.
Bumblebeetuna
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
XXL
Member
Im not sure what you’re upset about here. Am I lying because I said “entire slate” instead of “whole slate”?
"Across the whole slate" and the "entire slate" are 2 different things.
It's all good. Calling you a liar might have been a bit harsh and I apologize, I'll edit that out.
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Radical_3d
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That’s not the case. I don’t know in GAF but I know people that doubt it, myself included. This must have been an internal power struggle and an absolute win for Spencer. He wasn’t clearly in control when Tango was shut because that decision wasn’t in line with his goals. So if he hadn’t the last word because now Xbox is under scrutiny may as well had not the control over this (costly) decision as well. But this is 100% him not yielding to the short term benefits and scoring one for team green.
Cyberpunkd
Gold Member
We still on “Phil Spencer is a genius” groove train?
Bumblebeetuna
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Radical_3d
Member
No. Look at my post history. I’ve criticise the strategy of saving Xbox via GamePass instead of the traditional “just release good exclusives” several times. But to the César what is of the César. This is a win for his strategy.
Mr.ODST
Member
When COD went to Playstation Marketing exclusive so many people bought playstations and moved there, not sure it has that pull now but it did when they got marketing rights
FewRope
Member
What is this
King Dazzar
Member
Yeah I agree. Ever since this was announced as likely happening, I've thought of it more of a PC focused move in terms of any hope for GP growth. Whilst in my mind simply retaining existing console customers.
The financials are a strange one though. As you'd think any savvy gamers might just sub for a short period and then move on. And of course they also lose a sale too. As you say, interesting analysis stuff to come....
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Topher
Gold Member
PlayStation got the marketing rights to Call of Duty because Xbox sales were tanking while PlayStation was thriving. Same thing happened in 2007 when Xbox 360 was dominating PS3 (at least in the US). Call of Duty marketing rights follow the market leader
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2024/05/28/play-call-of-duty-black-ops-6-day-one-game-pass/
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We’re excited to confirm that Game Pass members will be able to jump into Call of Duty®: Black Ops 6 on day one with Game Pass.
As revealed last week, we will have a special Xbox Games Showcase followed by Call of Duty®: Black Ops 6 Direct on June 9, 2024, at 10am PT, where we’ll share even more details on what’s coming in this all-new Call of Duty®. Get eyes on the first in-depth look at gameplay in this dark new chapter of the Black Ops series.
And, if you’re new to Game Pass – we’ve got a (figurative) mountain of games for you to check out and play while waiting for that pre-install button to light up for Black Ops 6. Check out the hundreds of games here: Xbox.com/Gamepass
Keep the comms open, we’ll have more at @XboxGamePassPC and @XboxGamePass with more details soon.
ManaByte
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Page is live
We’re excited to confirm that Game Pass members will be able to jump into Call of Duty®: Black Ops 6 on day one with Game Pass.
As revealed last week, we will have a special Xbox Games Showcase followed by Call of Duty®: Black Ops 6 Direct on June 9, 2024, at 10am PT, where we’ll share even more details on what’s coming in this all-new Call of Duty®. Get eyes on the first in-depth look at gameplay in this dark new chapter of the Black Ops series.
And, if you’re new to Game Pass – we’ve got a (figurative) mountain of games for you to check out and play while waiting for that pre-install button to light up for Black Ops 6. Check out the hundreds of games here: Xbox.com/Gamepass
Keep the comms open, we’ll have more at @XboxGamePassPC and @XboxGamePass with more details soon.
ManaByte
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Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
I wonder if they meant to announce it this week?
You'd think they'd want to let people know next week after the showcase. But perhaps they're expecting lots of xbox stories to be generated. Maybe putting this out there now is a way of both extending the exposure of Xbox stories in the media, but also making sure everyone sees that Gears of War will be out this Christmas. (fingers are crossed)
You'd think they'd want to let people know next week after the showcase. But perhaps they're expecting lots of xbox stories to be generated. Maybe putting this out there now is a way of both extending the exposure of Xbox stories in the media, but also making sure everyone sees that Gears of War will be out this Christmas. (fingers are crossed)
Pretty sure last year was the last.
StereoVsn
Member
Yeah, there is still a fairly large user base on last gen systems, both on PlayStation and Xbox.
Pretty hyperbolic statement. It has worked flawlessly for me the last 2 years
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
I realise it might be phrased slightly awkwardly, but I was thinking BO6 is the next game, not the current one.
ShaiKhulud1989
Gold Member
Good for you, I guess. But there's a reason why GP is shrinking even with Gold-to-Core conversions.
ManaByte
Rage Bait Youtuber
The Xbox Wire blog post isn’t allowed under the current deal. So it only includes MWIIi. BLOPS6 obviously isn’t under it.
Snake29
RSI Employee of the Year
PS is a larger brand in the most part of the world. Nobody even cares about Xbox in Europe. Microsoft doesn't even care about Xbox over here.
They do zero marketing for the console, so what do they expect?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Yep, earlier I thought maybe '24 was also a part of the CoD marketing deal on PS but clearly this inclusion shows it isn't. No way Sony marketing contracts don't have clauses against putting the game on sub services without giving first-refusal to Sony.
Astray
Member
Cod marketing was one of the very few gaming things that got showed at the infamous TV TV TV Xbox One reveal.
Activision moved to PS because of MS dropping the ball with the Xbox One, not vice versa.
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
This isn't true, Activision moved to Playstation because Playstation outbid Microsoft for the rights.
It's not an honour that's bestowed on a company.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Astray
Member
Sony has never ever been in a position to outbid Microsoft on anything.
Activision backed the winning horse, that's all.
ManaByte
Rage Bait Youtuber
We know for a fact that Sony has outbid MS on numerous games, not just COD.
Mr Reasonable
Completely Unreasonable
I think you'll find that even Xbox has a marketing budget.
Activision didn't back anyone, they just took a cheque.
Mephisto40
Member
There is no way on earth the extra subs they are going to get is going to subsidise the losses they are going to have to eat due to the game bringing in no revenue on xbox through game sales
MisterXDTV
Member
MS may have marketing rights now, but they signed a 10-year binding contract to release CoD on Playstation Consoles
Seems like a moot point to me. For most people nothing will change this november
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