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Xbox One sells one million+ (sell through to consumers) in all territories worldwide
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statham
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Sales ignorant gaffer here, but don't we usually wait for other sources to confirm this? Again, I'm ignorant with the timing and implications of these sales figures, but it seems awfully fast to release these numbers, especially considering there are reportedly Xbones available. So did they ship more than one million units, explaining the availability of the console?
The whole thing just seems like a prepared "me too" reaction to the PS4 numbers.
The whole thing just seems like a prepared "me too" reaction to the PS4 numbers.
Wickerbasket
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Dragonborn
Member
I don't know man, the PS1 and PS2 era were pretty amazing.
Aquamarine
Member
We'll get confirmation of November's first-two-week USA sales on December 12th.
The USA received a large portion of the initial PS4 / Xbox One allotments...and we can roughly estimate the size of the USA market relative to the worldwide market.
If for whatever reason PS4 / Xbox One USA NPD sales are dramatically low (like 200K sold, for example), we'll have good reason to suspect the claims of PR.
Like what Nintendo did with Zelda Twilight Princess? The Wii didn't need to do that for the console to sell though. But eh, Microsoft is in a different situation.
A game purchase and PS Plus should easily make up for it though. Such a big difference from the PS3 launch.
I heard on the Spike launch video they did, that PC release will be later in the year (2014)
Dirtyshubb
Member
it could be because it has JavaScript on, on ps3 if I go to gaf without it on it goes to normal gaf but if I switch it on it goes to mobile gaf
cartoon_soldier
Member
Don't look at online stock, it is not accurate.
All targets, Walmarts in my area show stock online, called them and they are sold out. And I want to pick one up.
FairXchange
Member
All territories that it launched in, 13 of them.
haZethew0rld
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Because I can snap Gaf while my games are loading
Can you read it from a distance? the text seems rather small.
AgentP
Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
Because I can snap Gaf while my games are loading
So you have tiny text to squint at? Looks useless. Just pickup a tablet or make the page full screen. Won't it tell you when its done?
I have no problem reading it on my tv, but unlike that guy the mobile site kicks me out to the desktop page :/
pretty useless anyway, since the IE voice commands don't work for me in snap (controller works)
Have to agree with this.
Version 3.0
Member
There's good reason to want MS to do poorly. Just like Sony last gen, they need to un-learn their arrogance and anti-consumer behavior. Sony had to claw their way back into the race, and now MS is in the same position. They started pre-launch, though; good for them.
alexandros
Banned
Nah, Valve will pick up the slack.
Yep. The Xbox is a big leap in the wrong direction for the industry. Supporting will actively make gaming worse by giving weight to the anti-consumer BS that the console is still riddled with even after all the 180s.
When MS releases a Kinectless version, gets rid of intrusive ads, and stops putting basic functionality behind an over-priced paywall, I will totally pick one up. If they fail miserably before they wise up, well then Valve/Amazon/Google/Apple will step up and fill the gap. That's how markets work.
alexandros
Banned
Well, Sony did unlearn arrogance but not anti consumer behavior as the subscription requirement clearly shows. There's no way to know if poor Xbox performance will open the door for Sony to screw over their customers even more, or if arrogance will make a return. Sony and Microsoft are equally anti consumer and they both show their true colors everytime they're in a position of power.
So the better thing for consumers is for both companies to do merely OK, as in sell decent amounts of boxes but fewer than last time. Of course the best thing for consumers would be a truly consumer friendly platform like PC or Steam Machines to gain prominence and force them to shape up.
I wouldn't say charging for PS+ is anti consumer. Have you though the about the financial implications of it being free vs paid for another generation? We want them to improve their online infrastructure, with their console already being sold at a small loss. The company is barely in the black as is.
Senor Kami
Banned
I don't think a 3rd party would have more accurate info about MS than MS would.
Plus, maybe each console has a unique console ID. The system is literally a brick if you don't connect it to the internet so it wouldn't be too hard to just do a count of how many unique IDs hit the servers and be able to know that you've got at least x active units out there.
Nope, I don't sit too far away. Far easier to do it this way for me. Instead of pick up phone, unlock, hit browser (or when it comes out of sleep mode it reloads the page). And my phone is usually on charge when I get home.
alexandros
Banned
Charging for PS+ is not the anti consumer part, holding multiplayer hostage until you cough up the dough is. Sony's financial situation is of no concern of mine, I'm just a consumer not an investor or a fan. Should we also expect a PS+ price hike if their financials don't improve? Where does it say that the consumer should pay the price for the company's blunders?
Taking away choice from the consumer is never a good thing. Provide me a service, convince me of its value and let me decide if I want to use it or not. If you try to force me by stripping away functionality you can f right off.
Equating Sony and MS on this matter is really disingenuous. I am not saying Sony is completely devoid of it, or that they won't eventually go down this path. But when have they ever reached this level of anti-consumer policy? The PS3 was arrogant, not anti-consumer. Online behind a paywall is anti-consumer, but it's still cheaper than Gold and other basic functionality (like apps) is still free.
I just want to say that it is this EXACT internal compromising that allows these companies to slowly move the goal posts on us. I don't know what can be done about it, but this is what they count on.
Go to IE setting and set to mobile view. Snap IE works wonderfully in mobile view.
I agree, and it's why I haven't gotten a PS4 yet. Bums me out. But either way, Sony and MS are not on equal terms when it comes to this stuff.
IAmRandom31
Banned
Sony provided you a month of service for free to see if you want that service or not. If you do not want to play online multiplayer, then do not get PS+. Pretty simple, and something people on Xbox have been doing for 7 years now.
Atleast Sony actually gives you quality back with your investment in free games. Res0gun is one of the best games at launch for the PS4 and guess what, you do not have to pay on top of the PS+ for it. You will also get 60-75% discounts on games from now till the end of this consoles lifespan.
You have all the choice. Either purchase or not. I guess the mistake Sony made was offering free multiplayer last generation. Spoiled people now do not want to pay a whopping 4 dollars a month. Black Friday will see 30$ 1 year PSN also. Then it is like 2-3$ a month. The money we are talking about here is absolutely nothing. Complaining about it just makes you look cheap.
TheLegendary
Member
Yep. Have to change to mobile view but then it'll work great.
fastford58
Member
Yeah, not even close. MS is going to charge you money just to turn on the xbone eventually.
Because I can snap Gaf while my games are loading
And how is this more useful then browsing gaf on your phone/ipad/vita while gaming ?
the snapped browser is hardly readable, even when you're sitting like a meter from the screen.
hey, welcome back.
alexandros
Banned
Thanks
Have you used any Sony products over the last 15 or so years? I have used a lot of them and they're always filled to the brim with anti consumer bull crap. Sony always uses proprietary ports, proprietary memory cards, proprietary everything to force you into buying their stuff. Not to mention their hilarious DRM music standard that rendered most of their mp3 players unusable. Don't kid yourself, they are just as evil as Microsoft.
Oh, how big of them! "Remember that thing that you used to get for free a few years ago? Here's a taste, now pay us because f you we want money". Consumer rights are being eroded and we only care about who screwed us over first. That bodes well for the future.
Have you used any Sony products over the last 15 or so years? I have used a lot of them and they're always filled to the brim with anti consumer bull crap. Sony always uses proprietary ports, proprietary memory cards, proprietary everything to force you into buying their stuff. Not to mention their hilarious DRM music standard that rendered most of their mp3 players unusable. Don't kid yourself, they are just as evil as Microsoft.
Oh, how big of them! "Remember that thing that you used to get for free a few years ago? Here's a taste, now pay us because f you we want money". Consumer rights are being eroded and we only care about who screwed us over first. That bodes well for the future.
It's convenient for me and your bullshitting, it's legible, I'm speaking from experience not from a PR tick box. Keep it up
Sony is trying to convince you with the games on offer with PS+ and it's not like the console is practically a brick that just plays games without it.
Throughout the PS3 Sony's PSN was criticised as inadequate compared to XBL, personally I didn't see it, but it was enough noise for Sony to compete in this area, so congrats competition I guess.
alexandros
Banned
So why do they need to take away features if the value is so great?This is just like the DLC situation all over again, cut out parts of the experience and sell them for extra. It's shameful.
You know, that's completely fair. I still wouldn't say they are equals, but you make a valid argument.
Ol No Bones
Banned
I literally can't find one in a store.