Hidden One
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If I had 100 dollars for every 180..
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Xbox One Will STILL Function if Kinect Isn't Plugged In.
- Thread starter Speedy Blue Dude
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SmoothRunningGun
Member
There is no reason for it to be bundled now. Make it happen MS.
I bet 5% will never even plug it in.
BleachAndPepsi
Banned
I honestly thought it looked kinda plasticky. But it has potential.
I can't hold all these 180's
NullPointer
Member
Probably, but addressing privacy concerns and removing another point of failure are both big positives.
Silly.Mikey
Banned
The headset isn't necessary to play on Live either. But if its not shipped in the box, most dont talk.
The fact that Kinect is there in every box means were much more likely to have innovations with it.
The fact that Kinect is there in every box means were much more likely to have innovations with it.
shinobi602
Member
Microsoft's new policy:
Sounds like they're listening to consumers to me.
gamemadmax
Member
the truthMicrosoft's new policy:
Andronicus
Banned
Yayyyyy...still not buying it for 2 years
metareferential
Member
You're basing this off of nothing.
And I really doubt first year multiplats will show any tangible difference. The big audience won't give a damn about missing SSAO or antialiasing. Just like they didn't care on ps3.
Without it being bundled, Kinect developed titles will cease to be, well, at least beyond the novelty titles you see today.
You either sell with Kinect, or without it, not both.
No they can't because they will not earn my business if that's the case.
CadetMahoney
Member
Depends if you want them to fail or not. ~
3rdamention
Member
Is there any other product launch in history where the product reveled was almost the exact opposite as the product released due to customer backlash? So many people in this thread wanna high five and chest bump Microsoft after completely changing their product vision. Microsoft has to be embarrassed. They have changed nearly every policy and feature they spent weeks defending. Sure, they responded to their potential customers. However, to swing and miss SO BADLY with your initial plan and feature set makes it hard to feel confident in Microsoft moving forward.
How can you feel honestly confident in Microsoft moving forward considering all their visions and ideas for this system have been completely out of line with those of gamers? They stood by their decisions for so long, then backpedaled, folded, and made their system more similar to the competition.
At least for those concerned with the decision making at Microsoft, and having a hard time staying confident in them for years to come, there are alternative consoles you can support.
How can you feel honestly confident in Microsoft moving forward considering all their visions and ideas for this system have been completely out of line with those of gamers? They stood by their decisions for so long, then backpedaled, folded, and made their system more similar to the competition.
At least for those concerned with the decision making at Microsoft, and having a hard time staying confident in them for years to come, there are alternative consoles you can support.
SpecDotSign
Unconfirmed Member
At $100 more than PS4, this, and every 180 they've made changes nothing.
I would say they refined their policies. The only MAJOR MAJOR change was the reversal on always online / the way discs were handled. Everything else has been them refining their policies due to feedback but not a complete change. No other change goes against their vision, they are just providing more flexibility to consumers/developers.
I applaud them
Count me in the camp that finds the stuff Kinect can supposedly do to be extremely interesting. Makes this console at least somewhat unique compared to the PS4. That assumes it all works. It also assumes you care about UI, media, and ease of use features. Kinect games will of course be better, but I really don't want to move around while playing a game. These features are really what make the console unique and a selling point to the average consumer. Removing the Kinect from the box would ruin that strategy. Buy a PS4 if you want pure gaming at this point.
Dlacy13g
Member
That is most certainly true for you.
It means I can buy one now in
2 years.
Their entire vision was controlling every aspect of the system. It is now much more open. It's pretty much the complete opposite of what they revealed.
Salvor.Hardin
Banned
They're listening to the customer. How in the world is that a bad thing? Some of you just cannot digest this news. Don't become a parody of what was a very sane argument.
Mashin Haters
Member
u would have enough to buy a X1?
Silly.Mikey
Banned
That would be idiotic.
CadetMahoney
Member
who will gamestop sell it to?
without having any data at all, I would guess that what would happen is a whole lot of red balance sheets.
simple as that.
I'm 26 and single. Let me have $100 breh.
CassidyIzABeast
Member
I have to send my apologies to IGN. This AMA actually turned out to be rather informative. I'm very, very interested to know what questions they'll answer next Monday since its Gamescom week.
People who broke their own maybe.
Even more so if MS have no intention of ever selling it separately like the Wii U gamepad.
Barkley's Justice
Member
If this is true I am back in.
The Living Tribunal
Member
I'll marry you for $100. Let's do it brah.
soul creator
Member
Honestly, all the 180's don't really drastically change the vision of the system. It's just giving a few extra options.
Yes, the 24hr check is gone. But there's still going to be a heavy focus on "online experiences", "social", "the cloud", and all of Microsoft's favorite buzz words. But, you can now take your Xbox One into a cabin and play single-player and/or local multiplayer games for more than 24hrs, or sell disc games to whoever.
Yes, the "Kinect has to be plugged in" requirement is gone. But there's still going to be a heavy focus on voice controls, "Kinect-enhanced" features like the controller syncing, fitness, some motion controlled games, and all of that. But, if your Kinect breaks, or you're worried about the NSA, there's one less thing to worry about when using non-Kinect features.
The vision hasn't really changed, but it's mostly now "we hope you like our vision, but hey...it's cool if you ignore some of it. Plz still buy our system at least" as opposed to "this is our vision, fuck everything else. love it or leave it". But the actual intended functionality is still mostly the same.
i doubt 1st year games will show much of a difference. if the xbone was 50 dollar cheaper then microsoft could advertise it as being a much better value than the ps4. sony can say the ps4 is more powerful but they can't really get into why its more powerful since most casual gamers don't know much about ram or gpus.
How could someone be salty about this? There is literally no negative.
valkillmore
Member
You'd have enough to buy one!
As for this latest reversal, good on them. But it doesn't seem like a policy change so much as a clarification, in which case it need to be asked what the FUCK are they doing that they STILL can't put out some clear messaging!!! No wonder the data shows luke-warm to nonexistent purchasing intent. The exclusives they have look pretty awesome. Its just that Sony has been ON POINT since FEBRUARY, with one message 'Its a games machine, for gamers.' Everything else (the stuff MS decided to flaunt first) is treated by Sony the way it should be: cherry on the top window dressing.
I'll probably get one, but not until the inevitable Halo 5 60FPS Blister Edition.
And if you think Sony is any different, I've got a bridge to sell you.
They'd take it from you for free. They're not going to pay you anything when every console still comes with one.
Neuromancer
Member
damned if you do, damned if you dont huh ?
some people around here are unbelievable...
Based on his tweets he's coming off as upset about the not requiring the Kinect to be plugged in.
mangochutney
Member
For sure, and it is something that should be done. No point being so steadfast in your mindset when you're trying to sell to customers, no need to make it harder on yourself by pushing something they don't want or object to!
But the thing is if you're constantly having to make these u-turns and having to keep changing your policy then you need to take a good hard look at yourself and ask why you keep making decisions that customers are not happy with because you end up looking like you don't know what you're doing.