We can say there's pretty much no chance they came close to the 20% ratio that BD managed though.Can't say that without actual numbers.
We can say there's pretty much no chance they came close to the 20% ratio that BD managed though.Can't say that without actual numbers.
In what bizarro world does handheld output not count? Especially for a Japanese company. Wut?Guess which SE director released three console games (four if you count FF X Remaster) this generation and which ones released none or one?The first is Toriyama, the second everyone else
And he was martyred because he was the only one who actually stepped up to produce something. Had SE given him as much time as they've allowed Nomura with XV he could've just waited for the Crystal Tools engine to reach maturity before releasing XIII and we'd probably have gotten a much more open world (and I honestly think there'd have been very little backlash against XIII aside from the standard hate every FF since VI has gotten if that one thing was changed), instead he released three very different games when everyone else in the company was struggling to put out even one.
Were they? It was ranked #10 on the PSN sales chart of february. Does nobody buy games digitally on the PS3 or sumthin? Don't know about 360 sales.
USA
JAPAN
i always found it weird their selection of boxart for US almost like they were reversed. personally my first exposure to the game was the boxart and was turned off immediately but it wasnt till it kept being brought up that i looked into it and checked out the demo and it was decent.
but in hindsight i guess noa knows their audience too well lol.
i always found it weird their selection of boxart for US almost like they were reversed. personally my first exposure to the game was the boxart and was turned off immediately but it wasnt till it kept being brought up that i looked into it and checked out the demo and it was decent.
but in hindsight i guess noa knows their audience too well lol.
Good news for getting the sequel I hope!
BD and LR are both great games, but there can only be one victor in the blood battles of NPD!
I'm working through both as we speak and they are both great, but now i'm really excited to see if we get more 3DS JRPGs that haven't been released by SE over here yet...
*nudge* *wink*
LOL no it won't.
That is beyond a niche title.
Ahh this just warms my heart. Just finished Bravely Default this morning and IMO it's the best JRPG since Xenoblade (even if it did stretch on way too long for the "real" ending).
Such an epic final battle, and they even managed to cram a couple big plot twists in.
The closest comparison we have is probably KH1.5 HD which did 270k, although KH1 outsold FFX by a good margin too originally.HD remake of a game that sold well over 6 million copies is a niche title? Okaaaay.
I hope FFX HD does outsell both though, honestly I would be surprised if it didn't. Good games should be rewarded. Bravely Default was probably the most disappointing game I've played in the past couple years.
Haven't played Lightning Returns yet and even though I really enjoyed both 13 and 13-2 I find it hard to really care for LR much. I'll get around to it when its on a nice sale I guess.
Square Enix was wise not branding Lightning Returns as a Final Fantasy game.
Its technically a spin off that caters to fans of lightning.
Hopefully it wasn't too damaging to the brand and FFXV wouldn't suffer because of it.
This is probably the biggest new IP opening for a JRPG since kingdom hearts. Really impressive.
LOL no it won't.
That is beyond a niche title.
Lost Odyssey: 203k
BD JP: 300k
FFX HD: 550k (iirc)
BD NA: 200k
KH1.5 Hd LTD is around 450k iirc in NA alone. FFX Hd will easily outsell BD.
Lost Odyssey: 203k
Lost Odyssey: 203k
BD JP: 300k
FFX HD: 550k (iirc)
BD NA: 200k
KH1.5 Hd LTD is around 450k iirc in NA alone. FFX Hd will easily outsell BD.
Close.BD JP: 300k
FFX HD: 550k (iirc)
BD NA: 200k
KH1.5 Hd LTD is around 450k iirc in NA alone. FFX Hd will easily outsell BD.
Why are people flipping over at this.. Are sales supposed to be indicative of the quality of a game?
It's sad that at the end of the day it's a popularity contest() instead of a passionate and eloquent discussion about the merits and flaws of each game.More like dick measuring contest
People that have their judgements clouded by meaningless trite such as sales or name recognition should look themselves in the mirror for a proverbial reflection.
For some reason sales numbers only mean something when they can help your argument.
LR didn't sell well because its a terrible game. Of course, mention to the same people that FF XIII outsold every FF other than VII and VIII and all of a sudden either sales don't matter or SE lied about the numbers).
Successful has nothing to do with niche. You can be a successful niche game. He was replying and refuting to the fact people are saying that RPG's are niche so its okay for Final Fantasy games to sell like crap. His point was that oblivion proves that to be wrong and that anything Final Fantasy use to be mainstream now its not.
Make all the excuses you want. Including a game that isn't even a RPG (Dirge) into a conversation exclusively about RPGs is just missing the point.
For some reason sales numbers only mean something when they can help your argument.
LR didn't sell well because its a terrible game. Of course, mention to the same people that FF XIII outsold every FF other than VII and VIII and all of a sudden either sales don't matter or SE lied about the numbers).
AssCreed III sold a lot more than IV... And both Ubisoft and fans want to forget about III.
.His point was that sales are meaningless, besides since when does public perception matter to anything?
If Chrono Cross is anything to go by, public perception can go fuck itself. Im being radical here, to be fair I just get pissed off at unfundamented vile putrid hate. Having an informed and well substantiated negative opinion is fine, but hyperbolic nonsense devoid of analytical substance just rubs me the wrong way.
More often than not this negativity is as two dimensional and shallow as the games they claim to be shite.
Conclusion, people suck, well constructed arguments don't.
The reason FFX HD outsold LR In Japan in the first place was due to the very strong Vita sales. I already mentioned that I do not think those Vita sales will be there in the US.
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Metacritic is actually important for publishers. It's well known.
I think the whole process of "niche" game/genre players finding vindication in game sales really unsightly in its desperation. The resentment that drives people to that is too much for me to stomach. Wouldn't be so bad if it was localized to pissing contest threads like this, but you can't have a stable thread on an assortment of topics without it; it is even popping up in OT titles lol.
I just hope SE is less hesitant to localize stuff on platforms with terrible region locking.
We weren't discussing this in terms of publishers or companies.I was not arguing on that front, We were talking about people in general, I was talking about the individual, the player, the consumer, the people that are right now discussing this topic.
Yeah, I think the expectations for Final Fantasy X HD are pretty high.
Kingdom Hearts is a stronger property than Final Fantasy, and the Vita version will not bolster its sales.
Well, they care(?) enough to have FFXIII sequels dropping in number. Is not like Square marketing machine was not well oiled.
In the US it is.KH is not a stronger property.
In the US it is.
I believe you completely missinterpreted what was said, re-read it. That's not the point..
You don't want people discussing about sales because is to you just a e-dick contest.
It's also difficult to say just how much Lightning has hurt the brand overall.Probably not anymore by the time KH3 releases.
I would prefer if people actually discussed the merits and qualities of each game instead of using sales numbers as any kind of indication of quality, Im not trying to censor any kind of dicussion tho, each to it's own I suppose.