Considering also the dynamic wheater, to me they seem really really similar. I'd say..identical
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Xenoblade X (Cross) releasing in 2015 (Xenoblade Chronicles X in the US)
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Considering also the dynamic wheater, to me they seem really really similar. I'd say..identical
Looked exactly the same to me.
I'm really not sure what people are seeing here.
Outside of better textures and slightly less pop in, it lools the same from the reveal.
Yeah I kinda figured I was. I've put 48 hours into it so far, so I'm guessing that I'll hit the 100 hour mark before the end. Gonna keep pushing through though, I determined to finish it.
Considering also the dynamic wheater, to me they seem really really similar. I'd say..identical
hmm... you do have a point, I was comparing the demo to last year's E3 trailer. But, you are right, the current build looks like the original reveal.
I think the problem is that the 2013 E3 trailer featured a bunch of different landscapes and had the mechs too. So, in comparison, the limited demo we saw didn't have the same look.
If you can't be bothered restarting the game, let's give Chugga some extra hits:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YEhVPZjgMk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YEhVPZjgMk
You are right but I would also like to say that "in your face" isn't necessarily inferior to "subtle" and I didn't get that across in my previous post. It all depends on the context, personal taste and other variables.
I guess I should have replaced "Japanese stories" with anime because there is so much more than Anime in that category and even then it's not a completely viable generalization.
SoraanTribal
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Already watched it
Everyone saying they are going to replay Xenoblade... urge rising. I'm not sure if I would finally do New Game Plus and just plow through the game for the story or if I would start a New Game for a bit more challenge. Not sure yet.
There's so many other games I should be playing.. ones that I have had on a backlog forever, but... Xenoblade is calling. D:
I want to go to there.
Also, the straight shorelines with sharp corners seem to be absent now.
Definitely downgraded
ahaha
I got to Sword Valley a couple weeks ago on a third playthrough, but now I have Summer School! I'm trying to do it all by memory. I even found some locations that I never went to before that weren't named areas or landmarks! (On a THIRD playthrough!)
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Just bought and will be playing Xenoblade Chronicles finally!
I also watched a chunk of the X preview and LOVED it. Looks gorgeous and seems like it will be a ton of fun. This is the first game I will be preordering in a VERY long time.
I also watched a chunk of the X preview and LOVED it. Looks gorgeous and seems like it will be a ton of fun. This is the first game I will be preordering in a VERY long time.
Enjoy! Just take your time in learning the gameplay, and everything will really click very fast.
And explore! Exploring and discovering places is one of the main strengths of Xenoblade.
It's not basically. More of a spiritual successor, but the connection is pretty much distant if there ever was one. So you won't miss out on the story if you ever skip Xenoblade
although you will miss out on a great game
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Yeah, pictures of the world and exploration have me really excited. I plan to just take my time with it and try and make the most of the game.
Hey All,
I'm afraid I am LTTP for the Xenoblade game. I own it on WII and haven't played it yet. Xenogears for ps1 was one of my favorite games, and I did give Xenosaga a chance as well.
My question is aside from being developed by some of the same people, does the Xenoblade story have any relations to the Xenogears/Saga Timeline?
I'm afraid I am LTTP for the Xenoblade game. I own it on WII and haven't played it yet. Xenogears for ps1 was one of my favorite games, and I did give Xenosaga a chance as well.
My question is aside from being developed by some of the same people, does the Xenoblade story have any relations to the Xenogears/Saga Timeline?
Nope.
Don't go into Xenoblade expecting something as story-heavy as Xenogears or saga. It's a deliberate break fom Takahashi's earlier games - more focus on gameplay, less focus on story. It's a pretty standard shonen-manga story for the most part (even though it kinda gets crazy by the end).
I think it's a moot point because when it comes to animated works (or illustration, or music, or literature, poetry etc) , mimicking real life is not the point.
Just like animation presents characters, settings and props in a new way (infinitely redefining how we perceive things visually), so too can the accompanying dialogue, voice work, music production and story also be presented in new ways, that are exotic and entirely unrelated the nature of our own world.
A pencil can only produce a line, but with that line you can construe anything you can imagine. The journey of any artist is to explore that concept to its fullest.
Otakumegane
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Anyone check out the Gamespot demo with the older more Mario looking MC?
His face is awesome. I can't wait to make my own character.
His face is awesome. I can't wait to make my own character.
Rebel Leader
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Considering also the dynamic wheater, to me they seem really really similar. I'd say..identical
SoraanTribal
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Yeah, I was overleveled for like the first half of the game. I feel like once you get to Sword Valley, it sort of evens out though since there are a lot less sidequests in the last half of the game compared to the first.
I also hope they are better designed in X, but I wouldn't count on it. I'm still expecting the same MMO-ish sidequests if not just for the fact that there are those blue collectible orbs on the field. I'm expecting quests where you have to go collect 10 seeds or whatever. I always dislike those because what item you get is based on luck (although I think some areas have higher chance of giving certain items in the blue orbs).
I would honestly prefer 40~ or so detailed and well thought out questlines (side stories basically) rather than 400+ mostly boring ones. I felt like Bravely Default handled sidequests perfectly - they had their own interesting side story, new cutscenes, new bosses, great rewards, etc. Probably the best sidequests in any JRPG I've ever played actually. I wish X would adopt that approach, but I have my doubts.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
I'm excited to see how it looks tonight myself!
yeah, probably. but I'm glad they didn't spoil too much at the Treehouse
technically, they even increase water texture and pop up
TheGreatLugia
Banned
Thanks for finding the top gif from the original reveal. I think this is the closest comparison I can find:
January 2013
June 2014
currently on my first play through and yeah... you are required to do one or the other (or both).
IMHO the side quests are fine.. but just fine. the most frustrating part is "Oh hi can you help me!?!?" You complete the quest. "Thanks for helping me!! But I think I still need more help." "Can you also do this for me?" and then repeat this sequence like 5-6 times per NPC. The running joke in MMORPGs is "I need you to kill 5 rats for me!" and Xenoblade takes this to an unfunny level.
With that being said, not all of them are like this. There are fun ones for unique monsters, visiting specific and unique locations to do simple things, etc. Like in Satorl Marsh the stuff with the igna stronghold (that was really the giant stronghold) is really well done. But then you have that dude who doesn't want to leave the cave and sends you back and forth like for 10 quests.. ugh.
tempted to write a FAQ basically curating the interesting side quests in the game with a name of the quest and an accept/skip verdict on it. so many worthless side quests.. but enough good ones that it would be a shame to ignore all of them.
Smiles and Cries
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replaying Xenoblade right now would boost my expectations of X too much
I am trying to decrease my expectations, because I loved the original game too much
at this point I expect backlash threads full of complaints from you guys at the launch of this game because expectations are so high
I want this game so bad but I got to remember it is not a Xenoblade HD remake
I am trying to decrease my expectations, because I loved the original game too much
at this point I expect backlash threads full of complaints from you guys at the launch of this game because expectations are so high
I want this game so bad but I got to remember it is not a Xenoblade HD remake
TheGreatLugia
Banned
Right now it seems like the game is pretty much what would happen if you put Xenogears and Xenoblade in a blender.
I could see some Xenoblade fans thinking the end result is too different from Xenoblade and some Xenogears fans thinking it's still too similar to Xenoblade.
theSlacker
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I do think a lot of people are missing a ton of the game from just skipping all the side quests. And you have to do a bunch of the ones that seem pointless to get your reputation high enough with the city/npcs to get to the better ones. Know I'm in the minority when I say I loved how many there were and enjoyed getting them all done. How just about every npc had a schedule and pastern for walking around and going to bed was great.
What's the Xenogears part, the gameplay or the story? I don't know much about Xenogears, but this game seems to have Xenoblade's battle system, but fleshed out even more, and even the mech combat is done the same way as Xenoblade's battle system, it seems. So its core battle system appears to be an improved version of Xenoblade's. Which is enough to excite me, no matter what else is different ;-)
TheGreatLugia
Banned
The futuristic sci-fi setting, the art direction, the crazier plot, and the general tone of the game seem to be a bit more reminiscent of Gears/Saga than Xenoblade.
The gameplay is pure Xenoblade, though.
James Scott
Banned
Might be LTTP, but am I the only one that thinks that the latest trailer is probably the worst one for the game so far? Instead of focusing on the game's strong points (the massive world/monsters) this one focuses on close ups on the horrible faces and cutscenes. Good thing they played the game on treehouse live.
Thanks for finding the top gif from the original reveal. I think this is the closest comparison I can find:
January 2013
June 2014
woha, perfect. even the rock's textures are better
Tathanen
Get Inside Her!
June 2014
What's the source of this GIF? I've been looking for some not-shitty gameplay footage, all the treehouse stuff is really compressed and artifacted. This GIF looks super sharp tho.
TheGreatLugia
Banned
It was definitely less exciting than the first two teasers, but considering how many people thought X was some kind of MMO-like or Monster Hunter-like game, they did need a story trailer to clear things up. If that was all we got it might have been a tad underwhelming, but we got over an hour of awesome gameplay footage from Treehouse, anyway.
Hence the "it's been downgraded" comments.
Jup. A shame you can see the rocks "pop-in" transform though. If they could get rid that (or make it less apparent) that would be great.
The water & shorelines got a noticeable upgrade too though.
I think it was as good as the other ones! That's because its purpose wasn't to present the battle system or the variety of places (city, outside world) you'd be exploring, but this one's purpose was to introduce some of the range of the game's story. So in that sense, each trailer stood on its own.
Otakumegane
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Woah where actually is that gif from?
It's smooth and clear as shit.
It's smooth and clear as shit.
TheGreatLugia
Banned
I'm not sure. It's either from the official Nintendo upload or the eshop footage. The eshop footage is definitely the best, but I'm not sure if it's been posted online anywhere.
Anyone with a Wii U should definitely watch the eshop footage, though. It's glorious.
SoraanTribal
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I suppose I could understand why someone would be disappointed in the E3 trailer, but it excited me more than any previous trailer. Well, I take that back. The very first reveal excited me the most because of how well done the trailer was (it kept getting better and better - I was seriously freaking out by the end of it lol). But some people were a little concerned that the game wouldn't have much of a story based on the fact that they kept showing only the gameplay in trailers and footage. So I was actually thrilled to see a story trailer - it relieved some of my fears (although to be fair, I knew it would have a story - it's a fucking Takahashi game lol), and the story sounds really interesting so far.
The character designs don't bother me - they are similar to Xenosaga and I thought those were fine. It's not like Xenoblade had really great character designs either. Although to be honest, I do prefer how the characters in Xenoblade looked from a design standpoint (obviously, it has worse tech, especially Shulk's poor painted on face lol).
James Scott
Banned
Which is silly, since we haven't seen any faces since the first teaser and that face wasn't very impressive either
Well, anyways, it was good too see it wasn't an MMO. I liked Xenoblade's story mode quite a bit...still not a fan of Elena (or whatever her name is) and having a silent protagonist isn't very fun either. I hope that it's a bit like fire emblem awakening where you can make an avatar, but Chrome is still the main character and the story focuses mostly on him.
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