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Software in development exclusively for New 3DS

Galamauth

Member
But KI:U had great controls?

No it didn't. A handheld game that needs to be sold with a stand so you can play your game anchored to a surface due to its hand-cramping controls is indefensible. I'm only hanging on to my copy in hopes they will patch in support for this new 2nd stick.
 

marcincz

Member
I am totally confused. Few days ago I wanted to buy 2/3DS. Now I don't havy any idea what to do. New consoles, new gpu, second stick. What the hell is going on!?
If I buy 2/3DS now, probably I can't play in new games on...old 3DS. Maybe Xenoblade is only one exception, but I think in next years Nintendo will announce only games on N3DS. Completely strange and mess for me.
 

DNAbro

Member
No it didn't. A handheld game that needs to be sold with a stand so you can play your game anchored to a surface due to its hand-cramping controls is indefensible. I'm only hanging on to my copy in hopes they will patch in support for this new 2nd stick.

They won't.
 

MilesTeg

Banned
I think it's pretty telling that Nintendo has only shown one game so far, and it's a port. I wouldn't expect a plethora of game announcements moving forward. Stop gap console.
 
I am totally confused. Few days ago I wanted to buy 2/3DS. Now I don't havy any idea what to do. New consoles, new gpu, second stick. What the hell is going on!?
If I buy 2/3DS now, probably I can't play in new games on...old 3DS. Maybe Xenoblade is only one exception, but I think in next years Nintendo will announce only games on N3DS. Completely strange and mess for me.

You should probably just wait. I don't think this is as big a bump as some people, but wait-and-see is usually a good approach.

We also don't know if this is ever going to come to the west. I assume it will, but the market in Japan is pretty different and it's really weird of them to only announce for Japan today. If we get confirmation that this is never coming here, it'd be an all clear to buy the original XL.
 

Wagram

Member
I'm pretty salty over this to be honest. Depending on the extent of exclusivity of titles. I will think twice before purchasing a Nintendo handheld within the first four years of its life.
 
You should probably just wait. I don't think this is as big a bump as some people, but wait-and-see is usually a good approach.

We also don't know if this is ever going to come to the west. I assume it will, but the market in Japan is pretty different and it's really weird of them to only announce for Japan today. If we get confirmation that this is never coming here, it'd be an all clear to buy the original XL.
It's confirmed for NA/EU IN 2015.
 

watershed

Banned
There's a big difference between DSi exclusive games and games that will be exclusive to nu3DS, in my eyes.

DSi exclusives were quirky experiments that used the camera. nu3DS-only games will be the ones that require slightly more power than the regular 3DS offers, which means they're most likely going to be graphics-intensive 3D "core" games.
The dsi also had improved specs same as the nu3ds yet it never got graphically intensive core games as exclusives. Nintendo is not going to abandon the millions of people who already bought a 3ds. At best get the nu3ds will receive ports and small eshop titles as exclusives.
 

Chunky

Member
No it didn't. A handheld game that needs to be sold with a stand so you can play your game anchored to a surface due to its hand-cramping controls is indefensible. I'm only hanging on to my copy in hopes they will patch in support for this new 2nd stick.

The game is built around the way it controls, the only other input methods that would keep the gameplay intact would be a Wii remote, mouse or a fucking trackball. Having the gameplay degraded to the point where standard controls could've worked would have left the game significantly less appealing.

It would be like asking pro-Dota players to play with a PS1 controller. Or competitive Smash players to put up with a Wii remote + nunchuk. I picked it up in about 15 minutes and I'm hardly Jimmy off the Wizard. If you're not going to sell the game, I would consider putting in more effort to learn the controls.
 

Mononoke

Banned
You should probably just wait. I don't think this is as big a bump as some people, but wait-and-see is usually a good approach.

We also don't know if this is ever going to come to the west. I assume it will, but the market in Japan is pretty different and it's really weird of them to only announce for Japan today. If we get confirmation that this is never coming here, it'd be an all clear to buy the original XL.

I have a friend that doesn't have a 3ds yet that absolutely wants to play Smash 3ds in October. Honestly, this is kind of a shit situation for those that were going to jump in for Smash. I don't understand why Nintendo didn't plan this out so the NA release was during the Smash release.

I almost think he should just get a cheap 2ds, since there is no point getting a 3ds at this point (and 2ds is at least substantially cheaper, and you can get it for even lower with 2nd hand market).
 
I actually hope they patch in DA controls for Kid Icarus. If only to prove how antiquated they feel compared to the scheme they have set up for it now.

Let online be the proving ground, where someone using DA controls won't be able to compete with stylus users. Just like in COD on Wii U.
 

Reveirg

Member
A lot of non-gamers are already confused between the DS and 3DS. Now there's going to be DS/3DS/"New3DS". Sounds like a marketing nightmare =(.
 

Tathanen

Get Inside Her!
No it didn't. A handheld game that needs to be sold with a stand so you can play your game anchored to a surface due to its hand-cramping controls is indefensible. I'm only hanging on to my copy in hopes they will patch in support for this new 2nd stick.

I played the hell out of the game without the stand, and had no problem. Controls took some time to adjust to, but I'm awesome at them now.

Sorry you're bad at it. :[
 

sörine

Banned
A lot of non-gamers are already confused between the DS and 3DS. Now there's going to be DS/3DS/"New3DS". Sounds like a marketing nightmare =(.
It's not a new system, it's a mid-cycle upgrade. It actually is what people thought 3DS was (or Wii U for that matter).
 
Goddamnit, customers still don't understand that NDS/3DS are different things.

Also I bought a 3DS XL last Christmas, meeeeh.
 

Chunky

Member
O___O who killed your vibe today?

Some people (not me) don't like revisions this major to be this close (not even close) to when the hardware first launched. They also don't wanna be locked out of the exclusive games because they don't want to or can't afford to upgrade (valid concern for that group).

All in all, opinions dude.

This news is smashing to me!

I may have come off more annoyed than I actually am. The negative reaction to this mainly made me feel vaguely disappointed, but the announcement itself is rather exciting!
It just feels like an odd and somewhat petty thing to get upset about. So Nintendo should just not be allowed to do anything new with their handhelds until the end of their lives because it makes you feel insecure in your purchase? Just ignore it if so, the exclusive games wouldn't have existed anyway in your 1 version of hardware timeline.
 

BigDug13

Member
Why doesn't Nintendo really talk to marketing people from the WEST before deciding to name their console?

"New 3DS" is supposed to tell people that it's a different product? How about "Super 3DS" or something. Then they can have "Super 2DS, Super 3DS XL, etc" for the same new product line.

The word "new" just tells people that it's a redesign of the same hardware.
 
Why doesn't Nintendo really talk to marketing people from the WEST before deciding to name their console?

"New 3DS" is supposed to tell people that it's a different product? How about "Super 3DS" or something. Then they can have "Super 2DS, Super 3DS XL, etc" for the same new product line.

The word "new" just tells people that it's a redesign of the same hardware.

Well they could always name it something else over here. (Like 3DS LL vs 3DS XL)
 
No it didn't. A handheld game that needs to be sold with a stand so you can play your game anchored to a surface due to its hand-cramping controls is indefensible. I'm only hanging on to my copy in hopes they will patch in support for this new 2nd stick.

My hands hurt playing guitar hero on hard or expert.

Does guitar hero have bad controls?
 

Phii

Banned
I wish this upgrade was more like DSi rather than GB Color.
Because DSi didn't get exclusive retail games, or did it?
 

Chunky

Member
The game is built around the way it controls, the only other input methods that would keep the gameplay intact would be a Wii remote, mouse or a fucking trackball. Having the gameplay degraded to the point where standard controls could've worked would have left the game significantly less appealing.

It would be like asking pro-Dota players to play with a PS1 controller. Or competitive Smash players to put up with a Wii remote + nunchuk. I picked it up in about 15 minutes and I'm hardly Jimmy off the Wizard. If you're not going to sell the game, I would consider putting in more effort to learn the controls.

I actually hope they patch in DA controls for Kid Icarus. If only to prove how antiquated they feel compared to the scheme they have set up for it now.

Let online be the proving ground, where someone using DA controls won't be able to compete with stylus users. Just like in COD on Wii U.

I played the hell out of the game without the stand, and had no problem. Controls took some time to adjust to, but I'm awesome at them now.

Sorry you're bad at it. :[

Glad I'm not alone.
 
Call me crazy, but as someone who skipped Pokémon X/Y with a mind toward eventually picking up Z, I get the sense that Z is a probable candidate for pushing the New 3DS. It might be too big a title to drop the existing 3DS install base, but as a third-entry upgrade in a Pokémon line already saturated on the old system, I wouldn't rule it out either, especially as one of the common complaints I heard about X/Y was its graphical performance (frame drops galore).
 

Giolon

Member
No it didn't. A handheld game that needs to be sold with a stand so you can play your game anchored to a surface due to its hand-cramping controls is indefensible. I'm only hanging on to my copy in hopes they will patch in support for this new 2nd stick.

It didn't cramp my hands, and I didn't use the stand. *shrug*
 
Call me crazy, but as someone who skipped Pokémon X/Y with a mind toward eventually picking up Z, I get the sense that Z is a probable candidate for pushing the New 3DS. It might be too big a title to drop the existing 3DS install base, but as a third-entry upgrade in a Pokémon line already saturated on the old system, I wouldn't rule it out either, especially as one of the common complaints I heard about X/Y was its graphical performance (frame drops galore).

3D on in the overworld and Full 60fps battles would be a plus
 

Wynnebeck

Banned
SMH at the people defending the controls in Kid Icarus. I had no problem holding the 3DS in my left and using my right hand to aim, but there is no way to defend the fact the game shipped with a stand because the devs realized that you might need to put it on a table in order to get better "traction". It has nothing to do with someone's ability or lack of one to hold a 3DS. Most ridiculous shit I've heard all day.

My hands hurt playing guitar hero on hard or expert.

Does guitar hero have bad controls?

LOL This isn't anywhere even comparable. Shame on you for even trying to prop up that strawman.
 

Sandfox

Member
I wonder if they would be able to get Metroid Prime Trilogy running on this thing?

Why doesn't Nintendo really talk to marketing people from the WEST before deciding to name their console?

"New 3DS" is supposed to tell people that it's a different product? How about "Super 3DS" or something. Then they can have "Super 2DS, Super 3DS XL, etc" for the same new product line.

The word "new" just tells people that it's a redesign of the same hardware.

That's pretty much what it is.

I really don't get the new vs super argument lol.

I am totally confused. Few days ago I wanted to buy 2/3DS. Now I don't havy any idea what to do. New consoles, new gpu, second stick. What the hell is going on!?
If I buy 2/3DS now, probably I can't play in new games on...old 3DS. Maybe Xenoblade is only one exception, but I think in next years Nintendo will announce only games on N3DS. Completely strange and mess for me.

I really doubt this will sell enough to justify Nintendo giving it anything that's both original and big exclusively.
 
Doubt Majora's Mask would be a New 3DS exclusive. Grezzo did a great job with Ocarina of Time 3D with the old hardware, so just give them the port/upgrade job again and we should easily have a 3D Majora's Mask remake that'd be compatible across the board.
 
It's times like this I feel a little disconnected to Gaf at large. They do this literally every time. GBC was the exact same thing, DSi was very similar, and parallels can be drawn to the GBA SP/Micro introducing a necessary feature, aka the backlight. It's a way of creating more options for games during the life of a portable, without waiting until the next generation. It should be considered normal on a portable particularly because you'll likely want to replace it anyway. And if you don't want to, bloody well don't you miserable cunts! What an inane topic to get upset about and what a waste of time it was replying to you lot.

FUCK!

GBC came out 8 years later, it was basically a brand new console. DSi is nothing like this, the "exclusives" it had could be largely ignored by the gaming public.

Xenoblade is already a bigger exclusive than anything dsi had. This is the equivalent of the 32x NOT a DSi.

This is spiltting the user base, which I guess to gaf is a no no to everyone but Nintendo. Maybe I am totally wrong and they just massively upgraded the specs to never make a good exclusive for the system, but sorry I am not that optimistic.
 

Astral Dog

Member
Im hoping its just ports, i love Xenoblade,nice that its portable now but i already played the Wii versión and i dont think the 3DS or new its going to be the best system for it, should have waited for the 3DS true successor imo.
 

Lusankya

Member
Xenoblade is already a bigger exclusive than anything dsi had.

It's a port of a four year old game, how is this any important or big? I mean it's not even really exclusive in the purest sense of the word.
And you would never be able to play it on your current 3DS anyway. Doesn't matter whether or not the New 3DS exists.
 
It's a port of a four year old game, how is this any important or big?
And you would never be able to play it on your current 3DS anyway. Doesn't matter whether or not the New 3DS exists.

You really think there would never be a new Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Kirby, DK, pikmin, Pokemon, etc gameade exclusively for the n3ds. You think they just upgraded the specs for no reason at all?
 

Astral Dog

Member
You really think there would never be a new Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Kirby, DK, pikmin, Pokemon, etc gameade exclusively for the n3ds. You think they just upgraded the specs for no reason at all?

I think its going to be kinda like the Dsi,just more realized,but not a true platform, just something in between the 3DS and their next handheld
 

Lusankya

Member
You really think there would never be a new Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Kirby, DK, pikmin, Pokemon, etc gameade exclusively for the n3ds. You think they just upgraded the specs for no reason at all?

Just be able to browse Miiverse/eShop/normal interface etc. much faster is a huge plus.
The DSi was also faster than the DS and there were games that only used some enhanced features but could still be played on all NDS handhelds. Nintendo will bring all the big guns to all 3DS, I am sure. It would be suicidal from them otherwise.

Let's wait and see what kind of games the New 3DS exlusives are going to be. I bet most of them are ports from GC or Wii or for other reasons rather unimportant.
 

FoneBone

Member
You really think there would never be a new Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Kirby, DK, pikmin, Pokemon, etc gameade exclusively for the n3ds. You think they just upgraded the specs for no reason at all?

While I fully agree that Xenoblade is bigger than any exclusive support that DSi got, it's still a port of a four-year-old game, one that's fairly niche relative to other Nintendo IPs. So no, I'm not convinced that this is a GBC situation.
 
You really think there would never be a new Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Kirby, DK, pikmin, Pokemon, etc gameade exclusively for the n3ds. You think they just upgraded the specs for no reason at all?

Main series? Not out side of GC/Wii ports. I wouldn't be surprised to see some Mario and Pokemon spinoffs though.
 

hohoXD123

Member
Here I thought Nintendo learnt its lesson when it came to stupid names for new hardware. There will most likely be a lot of confusion once this software is released for the "new" 3DS and people get it thinking that their current 3DS will run it.
 

Frodo

Member
Like Majora's Mask needed the Expansion Pack to work, the new Majora's Mask 3D will need the New 3DS.

All hail the glory of the enhanced graphics! Time travel twice as fast with new CPU!
 

Apath

Member
Why announce all of this so far in advance of release? Who will want to buy a 3DS this holiday season in the US/EU now?
 
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