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[jhmtehgamr20xx]

It's the SEGA 32X of handhelds!

More like the Vita of....oh I forgot the Vita's still alive lol.

 

[Valkyri von Thanatos]

I wonder how much this extra RAM for browser functions will affect the ratio of people using 3DS' for porn (like in that other thread)...

 

[ArchedThunder]

Double RAM and 50% clockrate boost is huge... Like basically 3.5DS. Hopefully it gets a bunch of games to take advantage of it

No, more like 3.2DS

 

[WadiumArcadium]

No, more like 3.2DS

Catchy name. They should have called it that.

 

[Pancakes R Us]

Oh, goody. Now we'll have a bit more power than the machine that was underpowered four years ago.

Yawn.

This. Seriously, the eShop browsing is crazy slow for a system released in 2011, after smartphone had become mainstream browsing a few years before. It's nuts. I bet it will still feel slow by today's standards.

 

[trixx]

Would you be able to use this as a second gamepad for the wii u or a controller? lol.

 

[deltatheta]

This. Seriously, the eShop browsing is crazy slow for a system released in 2011, after smartphone had become mainstream browsing a few years before. It's nuts. I bet it will still feel slow by today's standards.

Really? The eShop seems fine to me. MiiVerse is ridiculous and the browser is unusable, but the only problem I have with the eShop is you can't close it when it's downloading images for some reason.

 

[elhav]

At this point I don't understand why they wouldn't just release its successor. It seams like its about time, no?

The system is 3 and a half years in the market. Already?

 

[markedbravado]

so this is basically a new portable handheld. Day 1 famicom color goodness.

 

[bobawesome]

More like the Vita of....oh I forgot the Vita's still alive lol.

That quality post.

 

[ArchedThunder]

The system is 3 and a half years in the market. Already?

3DS will actually be 4 when this comes out in the west, just sayin.

 

[wicko]

It's the 3DS' Gameboy Color.

Judging by the XB footage, it doesn't seem to offer a huge boost in power, but it should be enough to get some decent mileage out of 3DS if the New software is worth the New hardware.

Like Color's was.

Well, Color also had twice the clock speed and added, well, color.. DSi is an easier sell.

 

[DeVeAn]

Said it in another thread. This is probably the last dedicated handheld from Nintendo. This will hold then over until they are ready to reveal a combined home/handheld solution. The increase in other specs are only increasing my belief in this.

This is my exact thoughts. They know this is the end of dedicated game handhelds this the tweak.

 

[Scum]

Ah. Prepping the 3DS for the new universal OS.

 

[Bytes]

More like the Vita of....oh I forgot the Vita's still alive lol.

Can't Tell If Serious...

 

[TheBootyBandit]

It's the SEGA 32X of handhelds!

Yea, it sure appears that way.

 

[Instro]

This is my exact thoughts. They know this is the end of dedicated game handhelds this the tweak.

Hate to break to you guys but they've already said that they will be producing both a handheld and a console.

 

[MegalonJJ]

Double RAM and 50% clockrate boost is huge... Like basically 3.5DS. Hopefully it gets a bunch of games to take advantage of it

Isn't it more like Gamecube to Wii? Double ram and 50% clockrate boost...might be more effective as the resolution output remains the same (not sure how different the output resolutions of GC & Wii were).

 

[Graphics Horse]

(not sure how different the output resolutions of GC & Wii were).

They were the same. Yes it seems like a similar change, not sure what's happening to the GPU though.

 

[deltatheta]

Isn't it more like Gamecube to Wii? Double ram and 50% clockrate boost...might be more effective as the resolution output remains the same (not sure how different the output resolutions of GC & Wii were).

GC and Wii technically had the same output resolutions but almost all games for the Wii were in 480p, so in practice the Wii was outputting double resolution.

(double resolution in terms of number of pixels. when most people say "double resolution" they actually mean doubling both axes, which is actually quad resolution)

 

[pixlexic]

What effect, if any, will this have on preexisting 3DS games? Will they run at a higher framerate? Will they be more stable? Or are the benefits of these hardware upgrades be limited to exclusive titles developed specifically with the new 3DS in mind?

probably not. Nintendo uses the the same basic hardware and down clocks it for BC.

 

[M3d10n]

I wonder how much this extra RAM for browser functions will affect the ratio of people using 3DS' for porn (like in that other thread)...

The New 3DS browser will have HTML5 video support (like the Wii U) while the original 3DS doesn't. The 3DS numbers in that other thread were people trying to access porn from their 3DS'es and failing at it.

 

[Master Yoshi]

Will this help with the framerate in X/Y/OR/AS?

 

[Steel]

How is that compared to the Vita?

Just in the RAM department? Still half.

 

[NoSkillz187]

I'm really not sure how I feel about this. I bought an XL last November and now it's obsolete? How much longer will games come out that work on the old 3DS? The big games anyway. Like a new Zelda or next Mario game? Damn hope there are some good trade in deals.

 

[Sami+]

I think Vita has shown that even 360/PS3 gen equivalent isn't financially viable on handheld, let alone PS4/XBO

PS4/XBO isn't even possible in a handheld, let alone viable.

Vita's problem wasn't being too powerful.

Console generations. How do they work?

I have no idea what you're trying to imply.

 

[Sheroking]

PS4/XBO isn't even possible in a handheld, let alone viable.

Vita's problem wasn't being too powerful.

I mean... kinda?

It's more powerful than it needed to be. Short of a few ports and a couple games from Sony, nobody has taken advantage of it. It could have been helped by being cheaper and more malleable.

I imagine the next Nintendo handheld will be somewhere between the Wii and the Wii U with an HD screen, and we won't see it until 2016.

 

[mrklaw]

Didn't DSi have 2x the CPU and 4x the Ram? And that still had lacklustre support.

As a simple lifecycle revision with faster performance for miiverse (which has become important for Nintendo), and the web browser, plus the wider 3D sweetspot, it is fine. As a new model with any more than a small handful of exclusive titles? I'm not so sure.

 

[Shoyz]

It's more powerful than it needed to be. Short of a few ports and a couple games from Sony, nobody has taken advantage of it. It could have been helped by being cheaper and more malleable.

How so? Most Vita games are sub native res. It could be more powerful.

 

[sörine]

Didn't DSi have 2x the CPU and 4x the Ram? And that still had lacklustre support.

As a simple lifecycle revision with faster performance for miiverse (which has become important for Nintendo), and the web browser, plus the wider 3D sweetspot, it is fine. As a new model with any more than a small handful of exclusive titles? I'm not so sure.

DSi had over 550 exclusive games. They were almost entirely digital, but they still existed.

It won't surprise me if NN3DS turns out similarly. It has Unity/NWF support written all over it.

 

[Sami+]

I mean... kinda?

It's more powerful than it needed to be. Short of a few ports and a couple games from Sony, nobody has taken advantage of it. It could have been helped by being cheaper and more malleable.

I imagine the next Nintendo handheld will be somewhere between the Wii and the Wii U with an HD screen, and we won't see it until 2016.

Vita had a bunch of other stuff jacking the price up though, like the OLED screen and back touchpad and so on. Considering where phones currently are something slightly above the Vita really shouldn't be very expensive.

 

[Papacheeks]

DSi had over 550 exclusive games. They were almost entirely digital, but they still existed.

It won't surprise me if NN3DS turns out similarly. It has Unity/NWF support written all over it.

Yea but were those games as big as let's say Xenoblade? Or possibly Majora's Mask 3D?

Were they mostly Wario ware type games? Or were they full on New castelvania big releases?

 

[KojiKnight]

I'm really not sure how I feel about this. I bought an XL last November and now it's obsolete? How much longer will games come out that work on the old 3DS? The big games anyway. Like a new Zelda or next Mario game? Damn hope there are some good trade in deals.

Do you think Nintendo wants to aim for releases on a platform with 45+ million install base? Or do you think they want to completely start over, just to completely start over again in another 2 years when the '4ds' comes out?

No, there will be a lot of first party games that will take advantage of N3DS features, but exclusive games are going to be a minimum (outside of some sweet SNES VC right!?.... right?!)

 

[BeatResetsTheWorld]

Yea but were those games as big as let's say Xenoblade? Or possibly Majora's Mask 3D?

Were they mostly Wario ware type games? Or were they full on New castelvania big releases?

It's a port. I would hardly call it a big game. Not to mention lots of games did have DSi exclusive features too

 

[johnbone]

More like the Vita of....oh I forgot the Vita's still alive lol.

This post is confusing in more ways than 1...

 

[Hcoregamer00]

So let me get this straight, most likely the console will have.

CPU 266 MHz -----> 533 MHz
RAM 128 MB -----> 256 MB
VRAM 6 MB -----> 10 MB

Honestly, this is just telling me that if this is a mid life spec bump, that the future console will be quite impressive.

 

[Deleted member 17706]

I think Vita has shown that even 360/PS3 gen equivalent isn't financially viable on handheld, let alone PS4/XBO

Vita is far, far, from being a PS3/360 equivalent.

 

[Hero_of_the_Day]

You do not need to get a circle pad pro or the nfc pheripheral for your new 3DS

You don't need the circle pad pro now either, 'cause jack shit uses it.

Honestly, this is just telling me that if this is a mid life spec bump, that the future console will be quite impressive.

I think there's a good chance others here are right about this being their last dedicated handheld. Whatever comes next will be a portable console of some sort, I think. Hopefully we find out in 2016.

 

[boclfon479]

do you guys think the increased CPU and RAM of the new3DS will make them more likely to add GBA/DS VC to it?

 

[GhostTrick]

So let me get this straight, most likely the console will have.

CPU 266 MHz -----> 533 MHz
RAM 128 MB -----> 256 MB
VRAM 6 MB -----> 10 MB

Honestly, this is just telling me that if this is a mid life spec bump, that the future console will be quite impressive.

Well, if DSi to 3DS jump is anything to go buy, next handheld should be 1066Mhz and 2GB of ram.

 

[NateDrake]

So let me get this straight, most likely the console will have.

CPU 266 MHz -----> 533 MHz
RAM 128 MB -----> 256 MB
VRAM 6 MB -----> 10 MB

Honestly, this is just telling me that if this is a mid life spec bump, that the future console will be quite impressive.

Exactly how I am looking at it. This a temporary in-between type of remodel. It allows them to see a boost in sales on the hardware side, buys them time before having to release the true successor, and we get titles like Xenoblade on a portable (which is awesome). The pricing is a little high, however.

 

[StefanTheMongol]

Dear Nintendo,

Give it up. You don't know what your doing anymore.

Spoiler

At least not since 1995.

Thanks,
Stefan

 

[GifGafIsTheBestGaf]

it makes some sense if you take into account their new vision for the company like some posters stated. i actually like this small specs bumps in handhelds after a couple of revisions and years old, i was disappointed that sony didnt do this with the vita since most likely we wont see Vita 2

 

[StefanTheMongol]

Also, none of you actually believe that there will be more than 4 or 5 games made for this new system. Right?

 

[BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO]

I mean... kinda?

It's more powerful than it needed to be. Short of a few ports and a couple games from Sony, nobody has taken advantage of it. It could have been helped by being cheaper and more malleable.

I imagine the next Nintendo handheld will be somewhere between the Wii and the Wii U with an HD screen, and we won't see it until 2016.

Vita's cup/gpu is like a gen and a half above 3DS and it was only a couple bucks more. If anything it's not powerful enough.

 

[Hibiki Kurosawa]

Ooooh, this would be nice! I'm getting one anyway so the better the specs the happier I am.

 

[MrCunningham]

Exactly how I am looking at it. This a temporary in-between type of remodel. It allows them to see a boost in sales on the hardware side, buys them time before having to release the true successor, and we get titles like Xenoblade on a portable (which is awesome). The pricing is a little high, however.

So, it's nothing new for Nintendo then? Konami should release a New 3DS version of Metal Gear Solid 3. They could probably fix all those frame rate issues by just moving it to better hardware. But I doubt we will see that many new games takes advantage of the extra horse power. Especially not with the larger userbase that the original 3DS has.

 

[Foxy Fox 39]

DS, DS Lite, DSi, DSi XL, 3DS, 3DS XL, 2DS, New3DS, New3DSLL.

9 iterations in 10 years.

Meaning every 1.1 years Nintendo reinvents the DS. Love the upgrade but I would like a new system.

 

[Alex]

So let me get this straight, most likely the console will have.

CPU 266 MHz -----> 533 MHz
RAM 128 MB -----> 256 MB
VRAM 6 MB -----> 10 MB

Honestly, this is just telling me that if this is a mid life spec bump, that the future console will be quite impressive.

I want to think it (the next Nintendo handheld...or whatever) will be solid enough, but the 3DS came out in 2011 with a 240p screen so from now on I will just hold out all hope until we actually see what we get.

 

[SmokedMeat]

DSi had over 550 exclusive games. They were almost entirely digital, but they still existed.

It won't surprise me if NN3DS turns out similarly. It has Unity/NWF support written all over it.

Does it have time to? The real successor will probably be out in another two years.