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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread XV: Kübler-Ross Edition

I think this is all the confirmed ATs for the game. Any others that I'm missing?

  1. Andross
  2. Ashley
  3. Chain Chomp
  4. Color TV Game 15
  5. Dark Samus
  6. Devil
  7. Dillon
  8. Dr. Kawashima
  9. Dr. Wright
  10. Elec Man
  11. Isabelle
  12. Knuckle Joe
  13. Lyn
  14. Magnus
  15. Metroid
  16. Midna
  17. Mother Brain
  18. Nightmare Wizard
  19. Nintendog
  20. Phosphora
  21. Prince Sable
  22. Riki
  23. Saki Amamiya
  24. Samurai Goroh
  25. Skull Kid
  26. Starfy
  27. Tingle
  28. Takamaru
  29. Waluigi
 

Roo

Member
I think this is all the confirmed ATs for the game. Any others that I'm missing?

  1. Andross
  2. Ashley
  3. Chain Chomp
  4. Color TV Game 15
  5. Dark Samus
  6. Devil
  7. Dillon
  8. Dr. Kawashima
  9. Dr. Wright
  10. Elec Man
  11. Isabelle
  12. Knuckle Joe
  13. Lyn
  14. Magnus
  15. Metroid
  16. Midna
  17. Mother Brain
  18. Nightmare Wizard
  19. Nintendog
  20. Phosphora
  21. Prince Sable
  22. Riki
  23. Saki Amamiya
  24. Samurai Goroh
  25. Skull Kid
  26. Starfy
  27. Tingle
  28. Takamaru
  29. Waluigi

Ghirahim
Hammer Bro
Lakitu
Shadow
 

georly

Member
Pedophilia directly contradicts the image Nintendo wants so you do exactly what they did.

Yup, I get that it's negative PR, but it's not swapnote's fault, it's not the 3DSes fault, and it's not nintendo's fault.

That kind of thing could happen over email, over cel phones, over ipads, over any device with internet communication and photo sharing. In nintendo's defense, more kids have access to a 3DS w/ swapnote than... say... a cel phone, but it's not nintendo's fault at all :/ It's just a shame, I had such fun w/ the application.
 
Swapnote ;_;

During my last year of college me and my youngest sister would send funny messages to each other about Fire Emblem Awakening almost every day...
 

Ryce

Member
I think this is all the confirmed ATs for the game. Any others that I'm missing?

  1. Andross
  2. Ashley
  3. Chain Chomp
  4. Color TV Game 15
  5. Dark Samus
  6. Devil
  7. Dillon
  8. Dr. Kawashima
  9. Dr. Wright
  10. Elec Man
  11. Isabelle
  12. Knuckle Joe
  13. Lyn
  14. Magnus
  15. Metroid
  16. Midna
  17. Mother Brain
  18. Nightmare Wizard
  19. Nintendog
  20. Phosphora
  21. Prince Sable
  22. Riki
  23. Saki Amamiya
  24. Samurai Goroh
  25. Skull Kid
  26. Starfy
  27. Tingle
  28. Takamaru
  29. Waluigi
Ghirahim, Ghosts (Pac-Man), Hammer Bro, Lakitu & Spinies, and Shadow.
 

Hatchtag

Banned
Has anyone posted this video yet? The dude in the video actually brings up a good point for those who want Ridley playable.

Super interesting, thanks for the share.

I love this dude's haircut but I don't see how a boss having the ability to grab people (especially when Ridley does this sort of thing all the time) is that unbelievable.

True, but it's the breaking away that caught my eye. I don't think a non-controllable character would let you break away from them.

I'd be willing to avatar bet that Ridley's playable, but possibly as a playable boss and not a normal character. I just don't see it not happening at this point.
 
Probably. Expect more info starting now.
Chunky Kong AT here we come!

I'd be willing to avatar bet that Ridley's playable, but possibly as a playable boss and not a normal character. I just don't see it not happening at this point.
I don't think it's really that weird a boss who could grab people would let you break away; otherwise it'd slow fights on Pyrosphere to a standstill if half the fighters keep getting stuck in Ridley and can't do shit.

I say this as someone where Ridley (and Dixie!) are their remaining 'must have' newcomers and is still having hope there was an element of truth to stuff like that Duck Hunt/Bowser Jr. /v/ thread that mentioned those two.
 

Sponge

Banned
About the whole thing with Ridley grabbing, I get where he's coming from completely. We don't know the full extent of what bosses can do in this game, though. Nor do we know all the features of the Wii U version.

What if you could control a boss with the Gamepad?
 
Once again, are there any gaf members in japan who are going to be trying the demo? Or are we waiting for stuff to be posted onto japanese sites and then translated? Are we expecting pictures?
 
Yup, I get that it's negative PR, but it's not swapnote's fault, it's not the 3DSes fault, and it's not nintendo's fault.

That kind of thing could happen over email, over cel phones, over ipads, over any device with internet communication and photo sharing. In nintendo's defense, more kids have access to a 3DS w/ swapnote than... say... a cel phone, but it's not nintendo's fault at all :/ It's just a shame, I had such fun w/ the application.

This is Japan we're talking about, every child has had a cell phone since the early 90's. Pokemon Crystal had things that could only be gotten through interactions with your cell phone (GS ball) that NOA didn't bother with since "Americans havn't adopted cell phones en masse yet"
 

Durden77

Member
The most important Mii is Professor Layton, since the Mii of him basically looks 99% accurate to how he actually looks in his art. (missing ears and the nose is just barely wrong)

Just gotta unlock that top hat and an appropriate coat and we're good to go. I don't know what moveset to give him, but.

5822.gunlayton.jpg_2D00_610x0.jpg


The megabuster gun is tempting.

I've got to say, I've finally been introduced to Layton through PL vs PW, and I understand his appeal now. While I know his chances are pretty much non existent, I understand the request a lot now. There's just something amazing kicking ass with a character like him, especially if you're a fan. I'm still sometimes amazed when I play Wright in UMvC3, and Layton would probably actually work in a fighting game better and more seriously.

I still like Wright better with his obvious flaws and such that just make him incredible to me, but Layton's a boss.
 

Kyzon

Member
Yup, I get that it's negative PR, but it's not swapnote's fault, it's not the 3DSes fault, and it's not nintendo's fault.

That kind of thing could happen over email, over cel phones, over ipads, over any device with internet communication and photo sharing. In nintendo's defense, more kids have access to a 3DS w/ swapnote than... say... a cel phone, but it's not nintendo's fault at all :/ It's just a shame, I had such fun w/ the application.

I full agree with you, but this is Nintendo and the way they went about it is very in character unfortunately. I loved the app myself
 

Hatchtag

Banned
Chunky Kong AT here we come!

I don't think it's really that weird a boss who could grab people would let you break away; otherwise it'd slow fights on Pyrosphere to a standstill if half the fighters keep getting stuck in Ridley and can't do shit.

I see where you're coming from, but wouldn't allowing people to break away slow down the pace more than just immediately throwing them/damaging them? I donno.
 

JCX

Member
It's weird, because logically there is a lot stacked against Shulk being playable in Smash. But I think most people, even before the second leak from Sal Romano's contact, were anticipating his inclusion. Once we heard in that leak that Shulk was coming, it didn't seem like many people were shocked.

Of course, there were some... Notable skeptics.

I was anticipating him as well, just didn't want to get my hopes up for the lead character from a great game that barely made it here and was sent to die at the end of Wii's life. Very excited to play as Shulk.

Is everyone on the website a confirmed stater? Trying to figure out who I'll play as first.
 

rawktapus

Member
I've got to say, I've finally been introduced to Layton through PL vs PW, and I understand his appeal now. While I know his chances are pretty much non existent, I understand the request a lot now. There's just something amazing kicking ass with a character like him, especially if you're a fan. I'm still sometimes amazed when I play Wright in UMvC3, and Layton would probably actually work in a fighting game better and more seriously.

I still like Wright better with his obvious flaws and such that just make him incredible to me, but Layton's a boss.
Well put. Layton was my most hoped for 3rd party character and I'm bummed he's not in. Dude feels like part of the Nintendo family. Also, if you want a fuller breadth of Layton character, his games are mostly great, particularly Unwound Future. Some very great moments of character.
 
Impressions are up!

I JUST PLAYED.

I will be more thorough later but right now.

- Ledge snap SEVERELY nerfed. I feels like Melee ledge grab.

- Meta knights up b is like Marth's up b. It hits people like once and sorta knocks them away and has an upward direction to it.

His tornado still has a lot of hits but you can DI it pretty easy because the hits are actually less frequent, I don't know yet about its priority.

- Pivot cancel is still in

- Pac Man is SLOW. Every single one of his aerials are kicks. His forward aerial is a double kick, his back air is like Mario. The thing that stood our about him is his utter sluggish-ness. His fall speed is like brawl. His run speed is slow. His forward b sends a pellet out in front of him, and then he turns in to classic pacman and boosts towards it. It's kind of like greninja'd shadow sneak thing except you can't time it.

- lucario is unchanged except his smash attacks feel MUCH faster.

- peach is unchanged except for her up aerial. It's now a rainbow thing, it has an arched hitbox over the top of her head, she draws it with her hand.

- Zelda has a white costume
 
From Smashboards:
JUST PLAYED.

I will be more thorough later but right now.

- Ledge snap SEVERELY nerfed. I feels like Melee ledge grab.

- Meta knights up b is like Marth's up b. It hits people like once and sorta knocks them away and has an upward direction to it.

His tornado still has a lot of hits but you can DI it pretty easy because the hits are actually less frequent, I don't know yet about its priority.

- Pivot cancel is still in

- Pac Man is SLOW. Every single one of his aerials are kicks. His forward aerial is a double kick, his back air is like Mario. The thing that stood our about him is his utter sluggish-ness. His fall speed is like brawl. His run speed is slow. His forward b sends a pellet out in front of him, and then he turns in to classic pacman and boosts towards it. It's kind of like greninja'd shadow sneak thing except you can't time it.

- lucario is unchanged except his smash attacks feel MUCH faster.

- peach is unchanged except for her up aerial. It's now a rainbow thing, it has an arched hitbox over the top of her head, she draws it with her hand.

- Zelda has a white costume
 
Yup, I get that it's negative PR, but it's not swapnote's fault, it's not the 3DSes fault, and it's not nintendo's fault.

That kind of thing could happen over email, over cel phones, over ipads, over any device with internet communication and photo sharing. In nintendo's defense, more kids have access to a 3DS w/ swapnote than... say... a cel phone, but it's not nintendo's fault at all :/ It's just a shame, I had such fun w/ the application.

I think the major difference is a kid is way more likely to add a stranger to a friend's list on a gaming system without thinking about anything besides playing a match than they are to share their cell phone numbers with total strangers over the internet.
 
I've got to say, I've finally been introduced to Layton through PL vs PW, and I understand his appeal now. While I know his chances are pretty much non existent, I understand the request a lot now. There's just something amazing kicking ass with a character like him, especially if you're a fan. I'm still sometimes amazed when I play Wright in UMvC3, and Layton would probably actually work in a fighting game better and more seriously.

I still like Wright better with his obvious flaws and such that just make him incredible to me, but Layton's a boss.

Layton's situation is... interesting for Smash. His games are technically Nintendo games, but technically aren't either. He's sort of in this weird place where he's third party, but all his games are Nintendo published and I would hazard Nintendo owns the rights to him, given only a spin off of Layton has appeared on another system and it never featured layton or even mentioned him by name.
 

georly

Member
From Smashboards:
JUST PLAYED.

I will be more thorough later but right now.

- Ledge snap SEVERELY nerfed. I feels like Melee ledge grab.

- Meta knights up b is like Marth's up b. It hits people like once and sorta knocks them away and has an upward direction to it.

His tornado still has a lot of hits but you can DI it pretty easy because the hits are actually less frequent, I don't know yet about its priority.

- Pivot cancel is still in

- Pac Man is SLOW. Every single one of his aerials are kicks. His forward aerial is a double kick, his back air is like Mario. The thing that stood our about him is his utter sluggish-ness. His fall speed is like brawl. His run speed is slow. His forward b sends a pellet out in front of him, and then he turns in to classic pacman and boosts towards it. It's kind of like greninja'd shadow sneak thing except you can't time it.

- lucario is unchanged except his smash attacks feel MUCH faster.

- peach is unchanged except for her up aerial. It's now a rainbow thing, it has an arched hitbox over the top of her head, she draws it with her hand.

- Zelda has a white costume

I want real info... like starting roster, alt costumes, etc.

I think the major difference is a kid is way more likely to add a stranger to a friend's list on a gaming system without thinking about anything besides playing a match than they are to share their cell phone numbers with total strangers over the internet.

Yeah, there's that possibility, too. The fact that it has the word 'friend' in the name might imply they will do you no harm. That said, sharing friend codes is way harder/more tedious than just receiving a text/email.
 

ffdgh

Member
From Smashboards:
JUST PLAYED.

I will be more thorough later but right now.

- Ledge snap SEVERELY nerfed. I feels like Melee ledge grab.

- Meta knights up b is like Marth's up b. It hits people like once and sorta knocks them away and has an upward direction to it.

His tornado still has a lot of hits but you can DI it pretty easy because the hits are actually less frequent, I don't know yet about its priority.

- Pivot cancel is still in

- Pac Man is SLOW. Every single one of his aerials are kicks. His forward aerial is a double kick, his back air is like Mario. The thing that stood our about him is his utter sluggish-ness. His fall speed is like brawl. His run speed is slow. His forward b sends a pellet out in front of him, and then he turns in to classic pacman and boosts towards it. It's kind of like greninja'd shadow sneak thing except you can't time it.

- lucario is unchanged except his smash attacks feel MUCH faster.

- peach is unchanged except for her up aerial. It's now a rainbow thing, it has an arched hitbox over the top of her head, she draws it with her hand.

- Zelda has a white costume

Aww beat me to it. Nice to finally know offically about peach's new up air. Just need to know about her down and upsmash's strength.
 

SmithnCo

Member
From Smashboards:
JUST PLAYED.

I will be more thorough later but right now.

- Ledge snap SEVERELY nerfed. I feels like Melee ledge grab.

- Meta knights up b is like Marth's up b. It hits people like once and sorta knocks them away and has an upward direction to it.

His tornado still has a lot of hits but you can DI it pretty easy because the hits are actually less frequent, I don't know yet about its priority.

- Pivot cancel is still in

- Pac Man is SLOW. Every single one of his aerials are kicks. His forward aerial is a double kick, his back air is like Mario. The thing that stood our about him is his utter sluggish-ness. His fall speed is like brawl. His run speed is slow. His forward b sends a pellet out in front of him, and then he turns in to classic pacman and boosts towards it. It's kind of like greninja'd shadow sneak thing except you can't time it.

- lucario is unchanged except his smash attacks feel MUCH faster.

- peach is unchanged except for her up aerial. It's now a rainbow thing, it has an arched hitbox over the top of her head, she draws it with her hand.

- Zelda has a white costume

Sounds good, I have a feeling Pac-Man is gonna be a weird character.
 

J@hranimo

Banned
This cannot be demonstrated; time-locked content is not out of the question, as we've seen this happen w/ Pokémon.

Well more leaks will happen.

With more leaks, we'll get actual pics of characters instead of their portraits. I'm just saying there will be at least one store in Japan that will break street date, I guarantee it.
 
Excels posted this in the Something Awful thread (although I think he fetched it from /v/). A smorgasbord of Miis and QR codes so you can prep for Multi-Man Smash in advance. To tie our hilariously-off-topic Nigel Thornberry discussion to Smash, a Nigel Thornberry Mii is included (YMMV on the quality).

Hey that's awesome. Thanks for the post. Will have to grab a few of those.
 

IntelliHeath

As in "Heathcliff"
Brawl had 27 (according to Serebii) and I think we're up to 30 confirmed for the new games.
I hope so too!! Even if they updated them slightly.

So far, we have 34 assist trophies. I think all assist trophies from brawl should return as well. It would push the numbers of assist trophies over to 45-55ish. Hopefully they would have few new secret assist trophies as well, along with returning secret assist trophies.
 

Kyzon

Member
From Smashboards:
JUST PLAYED.

I will be more thorough later but right now.

- Ledge snap SEVERELY nerfed. I feels like Melee ledge grab.

- Meta knights up b is like Marth's up b. It hits people like once and sorta knocks them away and has an upward direction to it.

His tornado still has a lot of hits but you can DI it pretty easy because the hits are actually less frequent, I don't know yet about its priority.

- Pivot cancel is still in

- Pac Man is SLOW. Every single one of his aerials are kicks. His forward aerial is a double kick, his back air is like Mario. The thing that stood our about him is his utter sluggish-ness. His fall speed is like brawl. His run speed is slow. His forward b sends a pellet out in front of him, and then he turns in to classic pacman and boosts towards it. It's kind of like greninja'd shadow sneak thing except you can't time it.

- lucario is unchanged except his smash attacks feel MUCH faster.

- peach is unchanged except for her up aerial. It's now a rainbow thing, it has an arched hitbox over the top of her head, she draws it with her hand.

- Zelda has a white costume

Mmmm light and dark Zelda. Also "imagination" peach haha
 

Hatchtag

Banned
Interesting thing about the Ridley grab I wanted to mention:
So when you grab, there's that signature snap sound, right? Well we didn't hear that in the clip. But I went back and listened to it...the clip's completely muted. You don't hear Pikachu walking on the stage, which you almost certainly would have, especially with the stage being metal. You'd also have heard Ridley moving too probably, flapping his too big wings.
Now, why this clip is muted, I wouldn't know. It definitely doesn't mean he's playable. But it definitely is interesting.
 
Well more leaks will happen.

With more leaks, we'll get actual pics of characters instead of their portraits. I'm just saying there will be at least one store in Japan that will break street date, I guarantee it.

What I mean though is that there's still the possibility that we won't see if Ridley isn't playable until we see his role in Pyrosphere (if any)
 

emb

Member
Ledge snap reduced? If so that's amazing! One of the Shulk clips kinda looked that way, but I didn't want to get my hopes up.

All I want is for no one to come back to the edge in peace. Is that so much to ask?
 
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