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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread XV: Kübler-Ross Edition

emb

Member
zipzo said:
- ledge stalling may be impossible now? If you drop from the ledge and jump back up, you literally will just NOT grab it. It's like the ledge gains invulnerability to your grab for a certain time after you let go. DO NOT TAKE THIS OUT OF CONTEXT. I am not 100% sure I need to try it again on my 2nd go around but in my last match I basically lived on the ledge trying this out.

I could no re-grab the ledge directly after letting go and jumping back in to obvious grab range.
Interesting. If true, I don't totally see the need with ledge invincibility already smacked. But I like it anyway.
 
I added more.

Thanks!

Arranging by series we get:

Star Fox
Andross

WarioWare
Ashley

Super Mario
Chain Chomp
Hammer Bros
Lakitu
Waluigi

Metroid
Metroid
Dark Samus
Mother Brain

The Legend of Zelda
Ghirahim
Midna
Skull Kid
Tingle

Pac-Man
Ghosts (Pac Man)

Animal Crossing
Isabelle

Kirby
Knuckle Joe
Nightmare Wizard

Fire Emblem
Lyn

Kid Icarus
Magnus
Phosphora

Xenoblade
Riki

F-Zero
Samurai Goroh

Sonic
Shadow

Random
Color TV Game 15
Devil
Dillon
Dr. Kawashima
Dr. Wright
Nintendog
Prince Sable
Saki Amamiya
Starfy
Takamaru

Excluding Pokemon, that means we don't have ATs confirmed for the following playable characters' series; Yoshi, Donkey Kong, Wii Fit, Punch-Out, Pikmin
R.O.B (?), Duck Hunt, Dr. Mario, and Game & Watch
.
 

IntelliHeath

As in "Heathcliff"
It's a pretty good AT list. If we get all past ATs for this game (sans ones like Little Mac and Gray Fox), we'll have at least

  1. Andross
  2. Ashley
  3. Barbara
  4. Chain Chomp
  5. Color TV Game 15
  6. Dark Samus
  7. Devil
  8. Dillon
  9. Dr. Kawashima
  10. Dr. Wright
  11. Elec Man
  12. Excitebikes
  13. Ghirahim
  14. Ghosts (Pac Man)
  15. Hammer Bros
  16. Infantry & Tanks
  17. Isaac
  18. Isabelle
  19. Jeff
  20. Jill & Drill Dozer
  21. Kat & Ana
  22. Knuckle Joe
  23. Lakitu and Spinies
  24. Lyn
  25. Magnus
  26. Metroid
  27. Midna
  28. Mother Brain
  29. Mr. Resetti
  30. Nightmare Wizard
  31. Nintendog
  32. Phosphora
  33. Prince Sable
  34. Ray Mk III
  35. Riki
  36. Saki Amamiya
  37. Samurai Goroh
  38. Shadow
  39. Skull Kid
  40. Starfy
  41. Tingle
  42. Takamaru
  43. Waluigi

And we can only presume that we have at least a FEW ATs to look forward to!

Seem solid list of assist trophies :)

I really hope that we are getting new secret assist trophies such as King Kool, Reyn, etc.
 
Sonic update:

- sonics forward b snaps to the ground, it is really fast now.

- his uair is like a scissor kick, has a way better hitbox than the twist kick thing.

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J@hranimo

Banned
What I mean though is that there's still the possibility that we won't see if Ridley isn't playable until we see his role in Pyrosphere (if any)

I mean sure if he isn't playable as a character. If he's a playable boss and that one random rumor where boss characters are playable with the Gamepad is a wild guess, then yeah we'll know by that version. If he is indeed a playable character we'll know by Japanese release because both versions have the same playable roster.

Now the video....very interesting. I'm gonna play devil's advocate and rule out based on this behavior and why he won't be playable:

- Maybe Boss Ridley wasn't fully programmed yet and Sakurai didn't want to show how incomplete he really is. This is probably said a lot, but it is a possibility.

- One of Boss Ridley's actions could be he just grabs you. Yes that's lame, but he might do other things as well like throw you across the stage or throw you up.

Despite those two things, this video is probably the most plausible argument as to how he could be playable.
I'm done now lol, I know I just red RidleyGAF and the ridley cycle but that video made me want to post all of this
 
What alternate colors are you guys hoping they add for characters? Are there any particular references to specific outfits or other games that would be cool to see on your favorite character, or are there any alternate characters (like Peach's Daisy alt or the Koopalings rumor) that you want to see added who'd never be their own character?

Storybook/Young Rosalina with white gown and,reddsh brown hair.

I still have this hunch Sakurai will try and make Viridi an alt of Palutena somehow. He said how much he adores her as a character. Size difference be damned, but at the very least I can hope for that one fan mock-up with the Medusa, Viridi, and Pandora color schemes.

Already got the awesome orange work out clothes for Zero Suit Samus. Otherwise, I'm hoping for young short haired cadet Samus.

Also still hoping for some kind of Daisy alt for Peach complete with alternate voice.

Skyward Zelda.

Otherwise I'm good, I'd just say "surprise me Sakurai" like he did with NES Golf Mario.
 

DaBoss

Member
Take Marth's up B for example. (Most up B's work for it though).

In Melee if you fall to just below the edge and up B, you go past the edge and end up vulnerable. In Brawl you'll interrupt the move and grab the edge early.

Having it is a negative, because it makes recovering easier, simpler, and safer.
You're talking about recovery sweetspot, not ledge snap (ledge grab range) which is what zepzo is talking about.
 

emb

Member
Well it helps surviving against certain final smashes, but i guess not important competitively
How do you mean? You still get invincibility the first time, this just stops you from hanging on the edge again. Most final smashes would still come and get you if you're on the edge, right?
 

Revven

Member
Oh wow, couldn't it just be called ledge grab then? You competitive folk and your jargon!

Regardless, I'm happy this is good news for you guys. I even though it looked a little ridiculous in some of the E3 videos.

Ha ha, yeah it can be a little confusing because different terms are used to describe different situations even if they're similar. It'd be more confusing if there weren't these subtle differences in the terms.

So, ledge snap is like the "base" term but then you branch off into autosweetspot and magnetic hands (or magnet hands) -- both of which are different situations. An autosweetspot is when a character uses their special move and they grab the ledge no matter what, even if you were slightly off in your positioning you will still grab it and the special move will go right into the ledge grab animation rather than going slightly above the ledge and then going back down.

While magnetic hands (or magnet hands) would describe the situation where you're grabbing the ledge from really far away even though you aren't close enough to the ledge at all.
 
What I'm saying is that, upon the Wii U game's release, Ridley could be made playable in the 3DS game's release, which would mean that they would have the same roster
 

Regulus Tera

Romanes Eunt Domus
"Characters even go bubble status on battlefield without dying."

Hoping they change the tournament ruleset from four stock to three stock.
 
Yeah I saw that also and said "uh oh thats not good"

im just hoping its not larger than brawls (i thought brawls blast zones were fine imo)

Sorry but this thread is moving so fast, where is this info coming from? Did someone get the game already?

its coming the japanese demo event thats happening this weekend from the sounds of it everyone so far announced is playable i wonder if this version is te final version or more tweaks will still happen
 

emb

Member
You're talking about recovery sweetspot, not ledge snap (ledge grab range) which is what zepzo is talking about.
Oh, I always thought that's what the ledge snap was. Thanks for the correction!

If autosweetspot and 'magnetic hands' are different things, then I always thought the latter was more of a problem.

My friends and I would always call surprising ledge grabs 'teleport grabs' in Melee, usually from Mario or Doc for some reason.
 

Revven

Member
"Characters even go bubble status on battlefield without dying."

Hoping they change the tournament ruleset from four stock to three stock.

The tournament rule set will conform to the pace of the game, yeah. I don't think TOs are gonna run 4 stocks unless they really want to make sure 4 stocks isn't possible (experimentation and all).

A standard rule set won't probably exist until way after the Wii U version is out. But the community isn't against lowering stocks.
 

random25

Member
- palutena's smash reach is incredible. Her up smash is the giant pillar laser beam thing. Her side smash moves a bit forward and her wings slap in front of her.

- robin is FANTASTIC. Magic is not slow, when he has his spell book his attack speed is really good. If you use a smash attack in the air IT USES HIS MAGIC SMASHES. If you use a normal aerial it uses his other weapon.
 
Ridley is not playable guys.

The esrb would kinda want to see a scary purple space dragon, no?

We already saw scary things in Smash 3DS. What would Ridley do to change the ESRB advisory? They don't have to see every example of potentially bad content - they only need to see one for everything.
 

-Horizon-

Member
Guy said he's playing shulk and robin next, on his next turn to play

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Edit:
- palutena's smash reach is incredible. Her up smash is the giant pillar laser beam thing. Her side smash moves a bit forward and her wings slap in front of her.

- robin is FANTASTIC. Magic is not slow, when he has his spell book his attack speed is really good. If you use a smash attack in the air IT USES HIS MAGIC SMASHES. If you use a normal aerial it uses his other weapon.
Gif still applicable.
 
- palutena's smash reach is incredible. Her up smash is the giant pillar laser beam thing. Her side smash moves a bit forward and her wings slap in front of her.

- robin is FANTASTIC. Magic is not slow, when he has his spell book his attack speed is really good. If you use a smash attack in the air IT USES HIS MAGIC SMASHES. If you use a normal aerial it uses his other weapon.

Let me reaffirm this. Robin feels AMAZING.
 

Fireblend

Banned
- robin is FANTASTIC. Magic is not slow, when he has his spell book his attack speed is really good. If you use a smash attack in the air IT USES HIS MAGIC SMASHES. If you use a normal aerial it uses his other weapon.

Awwww yeah. My new main bro.
 
- palutena's smash reach is incredible. Her up smash is the giant pillar laser beam thing. Her side smash moves a bit forward and her wings slap in front of her.

- robin is FANTASTIC. Magic is not slow, when he has his spell book his attack speed is really good. If you use a smash attack in the air IT USES HIS MAGIC SMASHES. If you use a normal aerial it uses his other weapon.

o gooodddddd into my veinnnssssss
 

rawktapus

Member
Thanks. I definitely wanna check out some more of his stories after this. Is it important to play them in order? Or are they more self-contained?

And yeah, I've always been ok with Layton in Smash. He seems like a character that Nintendo's almost missing and has filled a nice gap. But now that I know him a bit better, I actually WANT him in Smash.

The first few games are mostly self contained, then they go into a prequel arc,which have more continuity between their stories, if I'm remembering correctly. Each game can be played without any previous experience, all though it may be best to start with the first. Curious Village, Unwound Future, and Miracle Mask are definitely worth looking into, in my humble opinion.
 

Regulus Tera

Romanes Eunt Domus
"- palutena's smash reach is incredible. Her up smash is the giant pillar laser beam thing. Her side smash moves a bit forward and her wings slap in front of her.

- robin is FANTASTIC. Magic is not slow, when he has his spell book his attack speed is really good. If you use a smash attack in the air IT USES HIS MAGIC SMASHES. If you use a normal aerial it uses his other weapon.

Let me reaffirm this. Robin feels AMAZING. "

PALUTENA/ROBIN MAINS CONFIRMED MOFOS
 
- palutena's smash reach is incredible. Her up smash is the giant pillar laser beam thing. Her side smash moves a bit forward and her wings slap in front of her.

- robin is FANTASTIC. Magic is not slow, when he has his spell book his attack speed is really good. If you use a smash attack in the air IT USES HIS MAGIC SMASHES. If you use a normal aerial it uses his other weapon.
Damn, palutena sounds great for spacing and Robin just in general
 
Guys Ridley has as much as a chance at being playable in this game as my avatar has a chance at being an alt.

And they both wont be playable for the same reason :p

EDIT:

inb4fatchance
 

Revven

Member
"- palutena's smash reach is incredible. Her up smash is the giant pillar laser beam thing. Her side smash moves a bit forward and her wings slap in front of her.

- robin is FANTASTIC. Magic is not slow, when he has his spell book his attack speed is really good. If you use a smash attack in the air IT USES HIS MAGIC SMASHES. If you use a normal aerial it uses his other weapon.

Let me reaffirm this. Robin feels AMAZING. "

PALUTENA/ROBIN MAINS CONFIRMED MOFOS

Oh god... welp.
 
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