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Shadow of Mordor offers Ultra texture optional download, recommends 6GB VRAM @ 1080p

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Lucreto

Member
I was building a new PC that is future proofed for at least 5 to 6 years. I will have to look for a different graphics card. I thought 3gb was enough VRAM.
 
Never stop reading the thread. Just 10 posts down I address that, but I'm guessing you were in a fervor to post that.

Fervor? LOL right. And by "address" you mean this nugget?

I'm aware the ultra settings are higher than console settings. The post was in a broad context, not about this specific game (the post I quoted was about the gen as a whole).

Which promptly was responded to by multiple people. Nothing has changed. The curve for graphical improvement continues to swing and max-out current gpu's (as always). And, as always, you can build a PC that will match the PS4/X1 at this game (and others) for the same price as those consoles. Which makes your "broad context" statement not really make any sense at all.

You can stay happy with the PS4 playing this game at 1080p/60fps @ medium/high equivalent settings without coming misguidedly into this thread as if this news is some sort of prophecy to validate your console purchases.

PCGamer put up a 1440p max setting vid on youtube. Youtube has some shit compression, but its something I guess.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrzSBpkxbqw

Looks decent but not enough to match those max-setting specs :( imo. Maybe it's just youtube.
 
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... and GTA5 will probably laugh at my 670.
I mean, when GTA5 was developed the only versions being worked on were 360 and PS3. With Evil Within and Mordor, the PS4/X1 versions have been developed alongside 360 and PS3, and they're also the primary SKUs. So my theory is that means GTA5 should run fine on 2 gigs. Actually, I'm not even sure that makes sense. Time for bed.
 

Tagyhag

Member
So wait... if I have a 2GB 680, that means I literally won't be able to run even High?

Nothing is set in stone until people actually get to play the game, Watch Dogs had the same problem, people were able to run higher quality textures than what they recommended.
 

Agent_4Seven

Tears of Nintendo
Well, I guess WB just saved me 60$. I can't even say how much I love when publishers doing such a nice thing. THANK YOU WB. THANK YOU SO MUCH!
 
Fervor? LOL right. And by "address" you mean this nugget?



Which promptly was responded to by multiple people. Nothing has changed. The curve for graphical improvement continues to swing and max-out current gpu's (as always). And, as always, you can build a PC that will match the PS4/X1 at this game for the same price as those consoles. And good news for you, gpu prices will continue to drop.

You can stay happy with the PS4 playing this game at 1080p/60fps @ medium/high equivalent settings without coming misguidedly into this thread as if this news is some sort of prophecy to validate your console purchases.

"...you can build a PC that will match the PS4/X1 at this game for the same price as those consoles."

I doubt that. In fact, I really, really doubt that. Even so, why would you want to do that? That's my point. People aren't paying hundreds of dollars on a card to run at console-equivalent settings.
 
It's funny because everytime I see that kind of recommended hardware, people panic for nothing and we amways have the same reaction:
"This means I cant play it on my PC"
"Those saying my 500 dollars rig blow consoles away were saying bullshit"

People should learn two things first:
Minimum and recommended settings mean nothing.
It changes from game to game. From situation to situation. I'll take an exemple:
Metal Gear Rising minimum config was about a quad core i5 2400. Last year I had an old dual core C2D CPU. Believe it or not, the game still ran at 60fps most of the time.

These settings depends on what kind of experience developpers expect you to have. And not meeting minimum doesnt mean the game wont start or that you'll need to lower every settings.

Not meeting recommended doesnt mean you cant max out the game either.


As for the other thing to learn:
Max quality doesnt mean console quality. I see a lot of people, sometimes with GTX670 or 770 claiming "This will run like shit on my hardware, I'll play it on my PS4/One."
Before jumping to conclusions, make sure that these settings are equal to console settings.
Ultra textures here requires 6gb of vram...
Do we know for sure that console version use these textures ?
 

GHG

Member
Well, I guess WB just saved me 60$. I can't even say how much I love when publishers doing such a nice thing. THANK YOU WB. THANK YOU SO MUCH!

Eh. You can get the game for $37 from GMG.

Might still get this to see how my 660 3GB sli setup handles this just for shits and giggles.

And people told me I was making a mistake and should have got a single 2GB 680. Pffftt.
 
As long as there's decent options that will fit within 4GB then this is only a positive thing.

Users that recently bought 2GB cards are beyond fucked at this point but there's been plenty of posters like myself warning that this would always be the case.

The GTX 770 2GB will rightly go down as one of the worst GPU purchases of all time. What a horribly mismatched card that is. It pains me that many PC GAFers recommended it without qualification when it was clear as day it didn't have any life in it.
 

Evo X

Member
No such thing as future proofing when it comes to PC tech, people!

The sooner you accept that, the happier you will be. You gotta pay to play. Can't afford to keep up to max out games? Then turn down the settings or buy a console.

Anyway, I think the 4GB 970/980 will run this just fine at Ultra. I bet the 6GB is only a recommendation, not a hard requirement. If we wait a few days, we'll find out. No use arguing over it at this point.
 
Ultra textures here requires 6gb of vram...
Do we know for sure that console version use these textures ?
They're not and no one is saying they are, but high requires 3 gigs. That's an expensive card. And this is a cross-gen game that's releasing in the first year of next-gen. Think about it and what it means for 2015 and beyond.
 

cheezcake

Member
It's funny because everytime I see that kind of recommended hardware, people panic for nothing and we amways have the same reaction:
"This means I cant play it on my PC"
"Those saying my 500 dollars rig blow consoles away were saying bullshit"

People should learn two things first:
Minimum and recommended settings mean nothing.
It changes from game to game. From situation to situation. I'll take an exemple:
Metal Gear Rising minimum config was about a quad core i5 2400. Last year I had an old dual core C2D CPU. Believe it or not, the game still ran at 60fps most of the time.

These settings depends on what kind of experience developpers expect you to have. And not meeting minimum doesnt mean the game wont start or that you'll need to lower every settings.

Not meeting recommended doesnt mean you cant max out the game either.


As for the other thing to learn:
Max quality doesnt mean console quality. I see a lot of people, sometimes with GTX670 or 770 claiming "This will run like shit on my hardware, I'll play it on my PS4/One."
Before jumping to conclusions, make sure that these settings are equal to console settings.
Ultra textures here requires 6gb of vram...
Do we know for sure that console version use these textures ?

I believe both consoles only have 5-6GB of RAM dedicated to the entire game so no chance.
 
I doubt that. In fact, I really, really doubt that. Even so, why would you want to do that? That's my point. People aren't paying hundreds of dollars on a card to run at console-equivalent settings.

Good point definitely. We won't know until the game officially releases I guess. But I'd assume the people spending hundreds on a card will be able to run this (depending on how much, well) above console settings. But time will tell. Obviously PS4/X1 games will continue to improve with time too (which is exciting in it's own right)
 

diehard

Fleer
I swear there was a game last year that said it needed 4GB of VRAM and everyone freaked out, and just as i predicted it was bullshit.

Or something.. maybe it was processor cores
 
Nothing is set in stone until people actually get to play the game, Watch Dogs had the same problem, people were able to run higher quality textures than what they recommended.

In case of Watch Dogs... No, not really. Ultra textures are kinda broken though as they mess up the streaming.
 
we are in the age where console optimization has overtaken PCs even with superior GPUs. a graphics card alone to get 4 VRAM is what 350ish+
 

GHG

Member
It's 250 bucks on Newegg. Three gigs isn't going to be enough, anyway. That probably won't even be enough for 2015.

The issue with that card isn't the amount of VRAM. It's more the fact it will run out of gas trying to run next gen titles at higher settings over the next few years.
 
It's 250 bucks on Newegg. Three gigs isn't going to be enough, anyway. That probably won't even be enough for 2015.


185 dollars on Newegg and you have 3 games with that.
It will, as far as consoles will go.
This wont be enough if you want to max out games of course. But for the rest, as long as consoles will do it. It will. But with better framerates and resolution.



we are in the age where console optimization has overtaken PCs even with superior GPUs. a graphics card alone to get 4 VRAM is what 350ish+


Haha, you cant be serious right ?
 
The issue with that card isn't the amount of VRAM. It's more the fact it will run out of gas trying to run next gen titles at higher settings over the next few years.
Yeah, true.

So what are we looking at as the ideal price/value ratio 4 gig card out right now?


185 dollars on Newegg and you have 3 games with that.
It will, as far as consoles will go.
This wont be enough if you want to max out games of course. But for the rest, as long as consoles will do it. It will. But with better framerates and resolution.
Is that in Euros? Maybe I'm looking at old prices. I just googled it. https://www.google.com/search?q=HD7...illa:en-US:official&channel=rcs&q=hd+7950+3gb
 
Yeah, true.

So what are we looking at as the ideal price/value ratio 4 gig card out right now?



Is that in Euros? Maybe I'm looking at old prices. I just googled it. https://www.google.com/search?q=HD7...illa:en-US:official&channel=rcs&q=hd+7950+3gb



I dont think we are seeing the same prices.
I see 120 and 130 euros but thats for used ones.
In summer you could find one at 150 euros brand new because they were clearing old stocks after rebranding.
Search for R9 280 its the new name.
Also worth noting that I bought a r9 290 with 4gb of vram for 220 euros during sales.
Then again, not as expensive as you make it.
 
As long as there's decent options that will fit within 4GB then this is only a positive thing.

Users that recently bought 2GB cards are being fucked at this point but there's been plenty of posters like myself warning that this would always be the case.

The GTX 770 2GB will rightly go down as one of the worst GPU purchases of all time. What a horribly mismatched card that is. It pains me that many PC GAFers recommended it without qualification when it was clear as day it didn't have any life in it.

770 2GB is gonna be fine. It's still an amazing card. Unless your going 4K you'll be splitting hairs with most of what's been released. Stop being so down.
 

Agent_4Seven

Tears of Nintendo
Eh. You can get the game for $37 from GMG.
Thx, but nope, I have HD 6870 with 1 GB VRAM and I have no desire to play this game with low quality textures + it seems like this game is only about about killing orks for the most part and I have no interest in killing tons of orks in LOTR game over 30 hours, it;s just f*****g boring as hell.

P.S. PS4 is not an option for me cuz I won't buy this console till at least 2017-2018 for sure.
 
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