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[crinale]

I think they didn't have time or resource to go for 900P. However in time they'll get it to 900P range some day.

 

[inky]

What does the first line (PS4 1~4, PS3 1~7, XBOX ONE 1~8) mean?

# of Controllers/Local Players?

 

[funkystudent]

FIFA 15 is 1080/60 on Xbox One, absolutely no excuse for this.

I am sure if MS gave a shit about Pro Evo they would ship some engineers over to help them out.

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Or just pay Konami to drop the PS4 resolution to match the XB1 version. Cough! EA NHL Cough! EA UFC Cough!

 

[gogogow]

It seems that the Fox Engine doesn't scale very well on the XB1. Brace yourself if it's ever used to develop Silent Hills...

It has been long confirmed it's using Fox Engine. They used a lot of time and money to create that engine, most if not all Konami games will be using it.

 

[Opus Angelorum]

Two different games running on two different engines... Why the hell would you compare the two other than both being football games?

Because FIFA 15 is much better looking?

 

[smurfx]

FIFA 15 is 1080/60 on Xbox One, absolutely no excuse for this.

EA has likely had a ton of help from microsoft optimizing their engines for the xb1 thanks to all the partnerships.

 

[Sweep14]

Is this the Konami website? Might be a false listing. But if true, it is a little weird.

Yep : http://www.konami.jp/we/2015/

 

[ClearData]

I'll take 60 fps rock solid on sports, shooting, and racing games. I'd take that resolution tradeoff if I had to.

 

[zeromcd73]

that's just stupid. Sports game? Is the game THAT good looking? Its hard to believe.

I would not be surprised if Japanese developers just don't care very much about the XBO versions.

 

[shinobi602]

1080p is 2.25x the pixel count of 720p though, and no sane person thinks the PS4 is more than twice as powerful as the XB1.

That's...not...how you break it down.

 

[Hixx]

Is it really that hard to believe?

Most of these games are now developed on the PC and then ported to the consoles.
Xbox One version is likely an afterthought, and the team most likely did not put in the time to optimize it since PS4 is likely the main focus with Konami being a Japanese company.

The PC is getting the same visuals as the last-gen consoles iirc, fairly safe to say PS4 is the lead version of PES2015.

 

[Mr Moose]

What does the first line (PS4 1~4, PS3 1~7, XBOX ONE 1~8) mean?

Max players per system (PS4 = 4,PS3 = 7, XBO = 8).

 

[IconGrist]

What does the first line (PS4 1~4, PS3 1~7, XBOX ONE 1~8) mean?

Players.

 

[driver116]

EA has likely had a ton of help from microsoft optimizing their engines for the xb1 thanks to all the partnerships.

Aye, EA are pretty much in Microsoft's pocket, and Peter Moor. FIFA looked pretty weak when I saw it.

 

[KefkaPalazzo]

Poor optimization here me thinks.

Since we're talking about MGS5...I have high hopes that it will be 900p on X1.

 

[gogogow]

Konami probably needs more time to finetune their engine for the XBO. It isn't any different than last gen's twin HD games, when some PS3 games had lower resolution etc. The difference is of course that the XBO is weaker than the PS4. I think if they do optimize their engine, it can do at least 900p.

 

[stryke]

# of Controllers/Local Players?

Yep that's right.

God knows why ps4 went backwards but I guess not a lot of people give a crap about couch coop anymore.

 

[ethomaz]

Based Fox Engine.

I expect dynamic sky in PS4 too

 

[CypherSignal]

surely they could optimize for the one and at least push for 900p or something.

Oh, yes, they most certainly could have. I'm not saying "Here's the reason why", it's more "Here's the precedent for this that might not make it super crazy".

 

[cheezcake]

That's...not...how you break it down.

I really should be asleep and probably just said something very stupid, care to explain?

 

[AkelisRain]

I can't see the picture. O.0

 

[Black Mantis]

The x1 isn't as powerful as the ps4, but it seems they never bothered to try here.

They've lost my money now, after such a promising demo, I was hoping they'd get this sorted. I'll just stick with FIFA 14 for another year.

 

[Kayant]

Well now I guess fox engine doesn't like XB1 so it's probably going to stay 720p with MSGP? Or will the extra time push it to 900p?

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This thread is a death trap isn't

Edit -

I think TPP will improve resolution on XBO, but maybe not even 900p.

True should be interesting to watch.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

 

[Sweep14]

I can't see the picture. O.0

Use the black neogaf theme to view it

 

[mrb1972]

No excuse for this, embarrassing on konami's part

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

Thats goofy, both madden 15 and 2K14 are 1080 on X1. Doubt it looks so much better than 2K especially.

 

[Gabotron ES]

Damm, are they even trying? optimize that thing jesus

 

[bombshell]

 

[Sou]

The PC is getting the same visuals as the last-gen consoles iirc, fairly safe to say PS4 is the lead version of PES2015.

It doesn't mean the game is not developed on the PC.
The most likely scenario is that with Fox engine still a work in progress, the PC version is outsourced and using last gen tech.

PS4 is definitely the platform that gets the highest priority for all Japanese developers.

 

[Guymelef]

Well now I guess fox engine doesn't like XB1 so it's probably going to stay 720p with MSGP? Or will the extra time push it to 900p?

Spoiler

This thread is a death trap isn't

I think TPP will improve resolution on XBO, but maybe not even 900p.

 

[Camoxide]

The picture only has column and row names but no entries?

Edit: yeah. White font on white background

It's grey background with white text. Need to adjust your monitor.

 

[Duxxy3]

Japanese developer. No surprise.

 

[btags]

that's just stupid. Sports game? Is the game THAT good looking? Its hard to believe.

From what I have played of the demo on both ps4 and xbone, it is not good looking enough to warrant such terrible performance. It is not like the game even has effects that could make it somewhat of a showcase like heavy particle use, ssr, or anything similar. Hell, even the models and lighting look pretty craptastic.

 

[shinobi602]

I really should be asleep and probably just said something very stupid, care to explain?

There's no need to go in depth, but if a system can push twice as many pixels on screen in a certain game than another system, that doesn't mean a 1:1 ratio in performance...there are a ton of factors to take into account. The engine of a game, the architecture of the system, the experience of the development studio, etc.

 

[AkelisRain]

Use the black neogaf theme to view it

Ty.

 

[RE_Player]

Are people really that surprised? I doubt the Xbox One version is a high priority.

 

[dracula_x]

It's the same as the PS3...?

Same resolution doesn't mean same graphics.

 

[Kysen]

Seems Konami doesn't give a fuck. How well has PES sold on xbox to date?

 

[Xando]

I doubt konami cares about XB1 resolution.
They sell most of PES in continental europe and asia where PS4 dominates the market.

 

[Mr Moose]

Same resolution doesn't mean same graphics.

And framerate (apparently), but this isn't about graphics/effects, it's about res and framerate.

 

[Raistlin]

FIFA 15 is 1080/60 on Xbox One, absolutely no excuse for this.

Are all other things equal between FIFA and PES?

Watering down the comparison to only resolution is pretty silly

 

[Ramrock]

The Xbone version is 720p, but it has working man's graphics. Can't say the same about the PS4.

 

[VE3TRO]

Thought the demo looked piss poor on XB1.

 

[ItsTheNew]

The Xbone version is 720p, but it has working man's graphics. Can't say the same about the PS4.

Hahahaha, that thread was ridiculous

 

[cheezcake]

There's no need to go in depth, but if a system can push twice as many pixels on screen in a certain game than another system, that doesn't mean a 1:1 ratio in performance...there are a ton of factors to take into account. The engine of a game, the architecture of the system, the experience of the development studio, etc.

Well I said that no sane person thinks that there is a 1:1 ratio in performance so now I think you misunderstood me. I was saying that the PS4 is clearly NOT more than 2x faster than an X1 which is why its odd that the res difference is so large, it's clearly more an issue on the programming side than the hardware side.

 

[family_guy]

Yep that's right.

God knows why ps4 went backwards but I guess not a lot of people give a crap about couch coop anymore.

Dumbass colors on the controller is why.

 

[dmr87]

Wow, 720p is back.

 

[stryke]

Dumbass colors on the controller is why.

You can do more than 4 colours

 

[Kagari]

B-But I heard the gap was closing...

Creeping on up.