• Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.

PES 2015 : 1080P 60 FPS on PS4 - 720P 60 FPS on X1

iamvin22

iamvin22

Industry Verified
Sou said:
Is it really that hard to believe?

Most of these games are now developed on the PC and then ported to the consoles.
Xbox One version is likely an afterthought, and the team most likely did not put in the time to optimize it since PS4 is likely the main focus with Konami being a Japanese company.
Click to expand...

this is not true....anymore.
 
O

On Demand

Banned
Xbone: 1.31 TF GPU (12 CUs) for games
Xbone: 768 Shaders
Xbone: 48 Texture units
Xbone: 16 ROPS
Xbone: 2 ACE/ 16 queues

PS4: 1.84TF GPU ( 18 CUs) for games + 56%
PS4: 1152 Shaders +50%
PS4: 72 Texture units +50%
PS4: 32 ROPS + 100%
PS4: 8 ACE/64 queues +300%


It's only going to get worse with games that have demanding engines and are open world.

I want to see what differences games like

AC Unity
Arkham Night
The Witcher 3
MGS TPP

And other games that are pushing graphic effects have between the consoles. Shadow Of Mordor is supposedly below 1080p on XB1.
 
B

Blobbers

Member
If this situation (coupled with MGS V: GZ system specs) has taught us anything, it's that KONAMI would never stoop to Bungie's and EA's level and underutilize the PS4 hardware. Good on ya, folks at big K. You just won over a FIFA dude.
 
R

Ramrock

Banned
On Demand said:
Xbone: 1.31 TF GPU (12 CUs) for games
Xbone: 768 Shaders
Xbone: 48 Texture units
Xbone: 16 ROPS
Xbone: 2 ACE/ 16 queues

PS4: 1.84TF GPU ( 18 CUs) for games + 56%
PS4: 1152 Shaders +50%
PS4: 72 Texture units +50%
PS4: 32 ROPS +100%
PS4: 8 ACE/64 queues +300%
Click to expand...
Doesn't get any clearer than this.
#thegapishuge
 
K

Kabuki Waq

Member
Duxxy3 said:
900p is about what I would expect with this hardware. Anything less than that is just not giving a shit. Anything more than and developers are probably spending more time optimizing the XB1 version than the PS4 version.
Click to expand...


Yea agreed. I dont think anyone is saying xbone is as powerful as ps4. PES imo is just konami being konami.

So dissapointed in the look of the game for ps4 as well.
 
M

Markitron

Is currently staging a hunger strike outside Gearbox HQ while trying to hate them to death
Opus Angelorum said:
FIFA 15 has significantly better lighting, stadiums and crowds.
Click to expand...

Can't agree with any of this. Having played both demos on PS4 I'd give PES the edge (gameplay-wise its 100 times better than Fifa).

As nice as PES looks I doubt it's pushing the hardware too much, this seems like laziness on Konami's part.
 
T

Terbinator

Member
Blobbers said:
If this situation (coupled with MGS V: GZ system specs) has taught us anything, it's that KONAMI would never stoop to Bungie's and EA's level and underutilize the PS4 hardware. Good on ya, folks at big K. You just won over a FIFA dude.
Click to expand...

Both GZ and PES look like shit - even on PS4.
 
BeforeU

BeforeU

Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
Conduit said:
Didn't take long. Guess where? :-D

iBjQDmN.jpg
Click to expand...

I don't see anything wrong with what he is saying. I mean some what. Sure Xbox One isn't has powerful as PS4 when it comes to raw power. But PES doesn't even look demanding, there is nothing that screams it can't run 1080p. When you look at games like Forza Horizon, Destiny. They all run damn well on both console. So in this case you can actually blame on the engine and say lazy dev if this is in fact true.

I only see people trolling here from both camps. I wouldn't be surprised if COD, AC Unity and all run lower res on Xbox One. But this is not acceptable. Makes no sense what so ever.
 
A

ALLseeingEYE

Member
How does this look overall? Also, how does ground zeroes look on PS4/X1? Doesn't ground zeroes basically look like a last-gen game?

This strikes me more as an un-optimized engine more than it does any indication of power difference (or this could be an easy optimization for them due to power difference).
 
P

PsihoPerihelion

Member
On Demand said:
Xbone: 1.31 TF GPU (12 CUs) for games
Xbone: 768 Shaders
Xbone: 48 Texture units
Xbone: 16 ROPS
Xbone: 2 ACE/ 16 queues

PS4: 1.84TF GPU ( 18 CUs) for games + 56%
PS4: 1152 Shaders +50%
PS4: 72 Texture units +50%
PS4: 32 ROPS + 100%
PS4: 8 ACE/64 queues +300%
Click to expand...

I don't know much about GPUs. Could someone explain the what all those terms do/mean? Seems like a huge, huge difference.
 
mysteriousmage09

mysteriousmage09

Member
BeforeU said:
I don't see anything wrong with what he is saying. I mean some what. Sure Xbox One isn't has powerful as PS4 when it comes to raw power. But PES doesn't even look demanding, there is nothing that screams it can't run 1080p. When you look at games like Forza Horizon, Destiny. They all run damn well on both console. So in this case you can actually blame on the engine and say lazy dev if this is in fact true.

I only see people trolling here from both camps. I wouldn't be surprised if COD, AC Unity and all run lower res on Xbox One. But this is not acceptable. Makes no sense what so ever.
Click to expand...

30fps vs 60fps.
 
M

MUnited83

For you.
Opus Angelorum said:
Oh, so an Xbox One owner should just accept that they didn't have the expertise or budget to make it run better...got you.
Click to expand...

Or accept that's the best they could do on that machine. Also, if you don't like that the game is running at 720p, here's a hint: don't buy it, nobody is forcing you to.
 
C

Conduit

Banned
On Demand said:
Xbone: 1.31 TF GPU (12 CUs) for games
Xbone: 768 Shaders
Xbone: 48 Texture units
Xbone: 16 ROPS
Xbone: 2 ACE/ 16 queues

PS4: 1.84TF GPU ( 18 CUs) for games + 56%
PS4: 1152 Shaders +50%
PS4: 72 Texture units +50%
PS4: 32 ROPS + 100%
PS4: 8 ACE/64 queues +300%
Click to expand...

Ramrock said:
Doesn't get any clearer than this.
#thegapishuge
Click to expand...

Also this small addition on that :

Xbone: 13.65GPixels/s -88% less
Xbone: 40.90GTexels/s -40% less

PS4: 25.60GPixels/s +88%
PS4: 57.60GTexels/s +40%
 
Mr Moose

Mr Moose

Member
BeforeU said:
I don't see anything wrong with what he is saying. I mean some what. Sure Xbox One isn't has powerful as PS4 when it comes to raw power. But PES doesn't even look demanding, there is nothing that screams it can't run 1080p. When you look at games like Forza Horizon, Destiny. They all run damn well on both console. So in this case you can actually blame on the engine and say lazy dev if this is in fact true.

I only see people trolling here from both camps. I wouldn't be surprised if COD, AC Unity and all run lower res on Xbox One. But this is not acceptable. Makes no sense what so ever.
Click to expand...

Those aren't 60fps games.

BeforeU said:
Well Forza 5, Fifa 15, 2K15 are all 1080p/60.
Click to expand...

Forza 5 and Fifa 15 both run at 30fps when things look nice.
 
U

Uno Venova

Banned
You can never figure out how much resolution matters, bring up Sunset Overdrive being sub-1080 and most people would tell you how much it doesn't stop the game from being fun.
 
JordanN

JordanN

Banned
On Demand said:
Xbone: 1.31 TF GPU (12 CUs) for games
Xbone: 768 Shaders
Xbone: 48 Texture units
Xbone: 16 ROPS
Xbone: 2 ACE/ 16 queues

PS4: 1.84TF GPU ( 18 CUs) for games + 56%
PS4: 1152 Shaders +50%
PS4: 72 Texture units +50%
PS4: 32 ROPS + 100%
PS4: 8 ACE/64 queues +300%


It's only going to get worse with games that have demanding engines and are open world.
Click to expand...
It rarely gets mentioned (and sometimes, I even see the opposite said) but, the CPU in PS4 is actually more powerful than XBO's.
 
BeforeU

BeforeU

Oft hope is born when all is forlorn.
mysteriousmage09 said:
Sports game like those are far less demanding due to the enclosed nature of the games and we've all seen the sacrifices made with Forza 5 to make it 60fps.
Click to expand...

I am sorry but I thought we are talking about sports games here, isn't PES a sports game?. How is it not a fair comparison with other sports games.

Mr Moose said:
They both run at 30fps at times. Before and after a race, for example, in Forza 5, and during replay in Fifa 15.
Click to expand...

I don't see you point. They still run on 1080p/60fps when you playing it. So its a simple question, WHAT and HOW exactly PES so special?
 
G

gtj1092

Member
Opus Angelorum said:
Oh, so an Xbox One owner should just accept that they didn't have the expertise or budget to make it run better...got you.
Click to expand...

Wait... wait... you wouldn't be asking a developer to better utilize the hardware of your choice now would you? Thought that was taboo after reading all those destiny parity debates ;).
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Orange Box - Portal (Likely Portal 2 too) - Fans Unlock 4K/60 FPS on Series X - 1440/60 on Series S
26
3K
intbal replied
Sea Of Thieves on PS5: 120 FPS, supports Crossplay, More than 250 Trophies including Platinum
Platform 2
58
4K
Havoc2049 replied
PSA: Armored Core 6's PS4 Version Locks at 60 FPS in PS4 Pro Settings on PS5 (Smoother than Native)
41
4K
Stuart360 replied
Cities: Skylines II pre-release benchmarks show RTX3080 at 24 fps... on 1080p
News Drama Game Dev 2
80
7K
StreetsofBeige replied
  • Locked
Diablo IV will run at 4K/60 fps on Xbox Series X and 1080p/60 fps on Series S
News Platform
8
2K
DavidGzz replied
Top Bottom