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[Wereroku]

GPU in PS4 is running lower clock than normal cards and Jaguar dual cpu combo doesnt require more than 20W.

But even high end PCs on Maxwell and i7 Haswell rarely go over 300W under max load.

I really need to upgrade to an Intel my amd is a fucking furnace.

 

[GifGafIsTheBestGaf]

i knew the 60fps thing was crazy, im realistic about my ps4. game is great though (the little i played)

 

[Kezen]

I really need to upgrade to an Intel my amd is a fucking furnace.

I7s are very affordable right now, with current-gen games being well multithreaded it's a good time to pick one.

 

[jblank83]

DF have downplayed differences between consoles and PC many times in the past. Not surprising to see them trying to brush 60fps under the carpet since the PC is the only platform which can enable this.
I'll take that over AA. Motion blur will most likely be fixed since it's in the option menu.

If it was 59 fps it would be worth writing an entire article about.

 

[Tidus_Great]

it's funny that such an ugly looking game cant run easier.

many ps3 games look better than this.

 

[Tom Penny]

This game runs fine an an old ass GTX 460 so I don't know what they are doing with those consoles...

 

[impact]

I think the problem with thr AA solution is that it basically nullifies the resolution boost the ps4 has over the xbox one version, due to it not beinga very crisp AA method.

I need to stop going in these threads hahahahaha

 

[belmonkey]

I'm pretty impressed with DFs analysis this time around.

This is now one of the few games where we know pretty exactly for each console the equivalent PC settings used:

	     |    PS4 |    XB1
Resolution   |   1080 |    900
Vegetation   | medium |    low 
Textures     |   high |   high
LOD distance | medium | medium
Shadows      |   high | medium
AO           |   high |   high

With the highest PC option being ultra for most of those. It would be interesting to do benchmarks at PS4 and XB1 equivalent settings.

Oh wow, it's nice to actually finally know equivalent settings in a game. Where is the code from though?

 

[Tidus_Great]

is the ps4 really that much more advanced than xbone or is this partialy a case of developers making ps4 the lead platform?

 

[bombshell]

it's funny that such an ugly looking game cant run easier.

many ps3 games look better than this.

I really want to see those games. And mentioning a few is not enough when you literally say "many".

is the ps4 really that much more advanced than xbone or is this partialy a case of developers making ps4 the lead platform?

When most other third party games have shown similar differences? Yeah, it really is that much more advanced.

 

[Stallion Free]

I made the right choice for once lol.

Pc is the clear winner if you have the specs. No motion blur is a plus for me at 60fps.

It's a toggle so once they do fix it, it will still be easy to turn off too.

 

[warheat]

It still looks and plays very well on Xbox One, so I don't care.

So? That doesn't change the fact that PS4 version is superior.

 

[jblank83]

is the ps4 really that much more advanced than xbone or is this partialy a case of developers making ps4 the lead platform?

The GPU, RAM, and architecture are clearly better, based solely on specs. We've known this since before launch. The first wave of games demonstrates this difference in real performance.

Still, PS4 is somewhere around current mid-range PCs, and does not come anywhere close to high end PC GPUs and CPUs. The gap will become staggering in the next few years, as current high end GPUs become midrange and high end is replaced by such redonculous cards as the 380x.

 

[Kilau]

Well this proves that I am mostly blind to 30fps/60fps.

It's the judder that I notice, like in Second Son.

im okay with 900 vs 1080.

900p in BF4 on PS4 looks pretty awful on my display though. Never again.

 

[CyberPunked]

LOD

Textures & Shadow Resolution

Vegetation Density

These are hilariously bad for next-gen consoles. Especially when you consider that a $100 GPU can out do them in terms of visual quality and resolution:

 

[The Llama]

My big takeaway is the consoles are already using some PC Medium settings. I was optimistically hoping they'd at least be able to stay equal to PC HIgh for a little longer, but oh well.

 

[kadotsu]

These are hilariously bad for next-gen consoles. Especially when you consider that a $100 GPU can out do them in terms of visual quality and resolution:

Wow didn't know Intel is giving out Core i7 3970X for free now. Where can I sign up?

 

[impact]

These are hilariously bad for next-gen consoles. Especially when you consider that a $100 GPU can out do them in terms of visual quality and resolution:

Those screens you quoted look hilariously bad for PC too. The game looks like absolute shit on all three platforms.

Source: I have the PC version

 

[BruiserBear]

The GPU, RAM, and architecture are clearly better, based solely on specs. We've known this since before launch. The first wave of games demonstrates this difference in real performance.

Still, PS4 is somewhere around current mid-range PCs, and does not come anywhere close to high end PC GPUs and CPUs. The gap will become staggering in the next few years, as current high end GPUs become midrange and high end is replaced by such redonculous cards as the 380x.

Sure, but how many games do you really think are going to be built around those specs? Unless your only goal is going to be 120fps and 4K resolutions it doesn't seem likely many PC games are going to do much with all that power.

 

[jblank83]

Those screens you quoted look hilariously bad for PC too. The game looks like absolute shit on all three platforms.

Source: I have the PC version

I don't think they look terrible. Partly the landscape is supposed to be dark and ugly. However I don't think it looks as good as some are making it out to be.

Someone said it was proof that next-gen was finally here, a beautiful game. I can't agree. Visually it's ok looking but not more impressive than some other open world games in the last few years.

It plays well though. Fun game.

Sure, but how many games do you really think are going to be built around those specs?

That's why we have highly scalable engines that can run on anything from the weakest system to the strongest, demonstrating vast visual differences across the entire range, with switchable settings such as tessellation (on/off).

 

[AgentOtaku]

There's no reason to hammer it over the head when it's an obvious differentiator. Of course, on the PC, whether you can hit 60 fps or not is going to vary per machine. Achieving a rock solid 60 fps with this game does take some hardware muscle.


I know what you mean but, when talking about a sandbox game, it's still a huge improvement over last generation. Right out of the gate last gen open world games were running at sub-30 fps with loads of tearing on consoles. The fact that the sandbox games released thus far across the new consoles have delivered rock solid frame-rates makes a HUGE difference.
.

EXACTLY

go check out the original Saints Row on 360. It's disgusting from a performance perspective

 

[Gbraga]

Sure, but how many games do you really think are going to be built around those specs? Unless your only goal is going to be 120fps and 4K resolutions it doesn't seem likely many PC games are going to do much with all that power.

I don't mind having extra power to play every game downsampled. Even if they don't use the power, I'll gladly upgrade my PC.

 

[AmFreak]

Wow didn't know Intel is giving out Core i7 3970X for free now. Where can I sign up?

Add another $50 for a cpu then:

 

[Duxxy3]

Not sure the XB1 version was worth hiding with these differences. It's not a 720/1080 scenario.

 

[JAYSIMPLE]

I need to stop going in these threads hahahahaha

I thought that what they wrote at digital foundry?

That it makes it harder to notice?

 

[SaintR]

Ok this series of posts and then this masterful gif...

Perfection.gif

 

[Cole Slaw]

is the ps4 really that much more advanced than xbone or is this partialy a case of developers making ps4 the lead platform?

It's both.

 

[kadotsu]

Add another $50 for a cpu then

Oh, but where will I get my Titan for $100?

 

[BruiserBear]

These are hilariously bad for next-gen consoles. Especially when you consider that a $100 GPU can out do them in terms of visual quality and resolution:

It's always amusing when people take a single game and attempt to make grand statements from it. You have no idea how well optimized this engine is on these consoles.

The real test of these consoles is the exclusives, and we've already seen some pretty crazy things out of both, and next year looks like it's going to provide even better results.

 

[Nethaniah]

Oh, but where will I get my Titan for $100?

Reading comprehension lacking a bit there mate, keep on the crusade though.

 

[Kezen]

Sure, but how many games do you really think are going to be built around those specs? Unless your only goal is going to be 120fps and 4K resolutions it doesn't seem likely many PC games are going to do much with all that power.

I don't think anyone expects devs to completely tailor their tech around such niche of the market, but the power in those GPUs will be put to good use in terms of IQ. You might say it's scant reward for so much horsepower but that's 100% fine by me, resolution is extremely important in my view and considering the bickering among console only gamers they seem to value that as well.
And of course some games already include some very high-end features, sometimes exclusive to PC, sometimes prettier versions of PS4/XBO effects.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8546/nvidia-gameworks-more-effects-with-less-effort

 

[Purest 78]

[QUO?TE=CyberPunked;132850607]These are hilariously bad for next-gen consoles. Especially when you consider that a $100 GPU can out do them in terms of visual quality and resolution:

[/QUOTE]

Wow I didn't know a gpu was all you needed to play games on pc. Can you link me to this magical Gpu?

 

[Conduit]

From where Gamespot pulled 1080p patch for Xbone? Any official update notes from Monolith?

 

[AmFreak]

Oh, but where will I get my Titan for $100?

This:

These are hilariously bad for next-gen consoles. Especially when you consider that a $100 GPU can out do them in terms of visual quality and resolution:

was the sentence you quoted, so i don't see what it has to do with a Titan.

 

[SmokedMeat]

Add another $50 for a cpu then:

Is that on top of the $500 780ti GPU? That extra grass is so going to be worth it.

 

[Angelus Errare]

From where Gamespot pulled 1080p patch for Xbone? Any official update notes from Monolith?

There is no 1080p patch. Gamestop didn't know what they were talking about/they didn't count pixels.

 

[dynamitejim]

Motion blur is broken on the PC version and no one noticed?

 

[Cole Slaw]

It's always amusing when people take a single game and attempt to make grand statements from it. You have no idea how well optimized this engine is on these consoles.

The real test of these consoles is the exclusives, and we've already seen some pretty crazy things out of both, and next year looks like it's going to provide even better results.

"The real test." Pffffft.

Uncharted 4. /Hryb

 

[kadotsu]

This:


was the sentence you quoted, so i don't see what it has to do with a Titan.

You showed me that a $100 GPU can run outperform a PS4 on a $600 CPU with 16GB of RAM on a MoBo that costs as much as a PS4. Then you showed me that a $50 CPU can do the same using a $550 GPU.

Consoles are hardware compromises. PC gaming will outperform consoles always, but right now the consoles do an adequate job considering their price.

 

[Duxxy3]

Add another $50 for a cpu then:

Disturbing how little the CPU market has moved in years/how ineffective AMD CPU's are.

 

[jeffyjaixx]

Didn't the IGN editor say the PS4 version was 60 unlocked? lol

 

[statham]

so where did the 720p & 60 FPS FUD come from?

 

[Bananajama]

These are hilariously bad for next-gen consoles. Especially when you consider that a $100 GPU can out do them in terms of visual quality and resolution:

Please point me to this £300 PC that can match a console

 

[dark10x]

Those screens you quoted look hilariously bad for PC too. The game looks like absolute shit on all three platforms.

Source: I have the PC version

Absolute shit? It's not a stunner, but I think that's some hyperbole right there. The game can look pretty nice at times. They do the "bleak wasteland" thing really well.

 

[The Dear Leader]

Motion blur is broken on the PC version and no one noticed?

You run at a high enough framerate you don't really need motion blur, I could have sworn I saw some motion blur in the PC version when I had it on, but I guess not.

 

[belmonkey]

You showed me that a $100 GPU can run outperform a PS4 on a $600 CPU with 16GB of RAM on a MoBo that costs as much as a PS4. Then you showed me that a $50 CPU can do the same using a $550 GPU.

Consoles are hardware compromises. PC gaming will outperform consoles always, but right now the consoles do an adequate job considering their price.

Is this example of a 750 ti + OC'd quad-core AMD CPU alright?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1dL_xmo-Pc

Mostly stays above 40 FPS at 1080 high settings (slightly above PS4), while taking a few FPS hit from recording.

 

[cakely]

It still looks and plays very well on Xbox One, so I don't care.

Thank you for coming here to tell all of us that you don't care.

 

[ohlawd]

as long as the framerate is locked, good enough for me

 

[Renekton]

As a PS3 only owner for first 3 years since 2007, I felt the pain of owning inferior ports. Xbone owners shouldn't have to go through that.

PS3 was because of its complex architecture and limited main RAM, X1 has neither issues.

 

[impact]

Absolute shit? It's not a stunner, but I think that's some hyperbole right there. The game can look pretty nice at times. They do the "bleak wasteland" thing really well.

I took some screens too without manipulating camera angles to hide ugly things

Of course it could get a lot nicer in the environments later on. I already quit because it's yet another Ubisoft bar filling game with A for awesome button combat. And yes I know Ubisoft didn't make it. Coulda fooled me.