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Digital Foundry: GTA 5's next-gen grass compared

OSHAN

Member
Like I said, people with both.

The problem, is that shit like this may take the focus away of more important things that a 'both console owner' may be looking for.

Maybe one day we'll get DF threads on how much fun is onscreen at once.

I don't understand. It's a comparison thread for grass, and who is to say what is important?
 

-griffy-

Banned
Like I said, people with both.

The problem, is that shit like this may take the focus away of more important things that a 'both console owner' may be looking for.

Maybe one day we'll get DF threads on how much fun is onscreen at once.

The entire point of Digital Foundry is to analyze the tech of games. What are the "more important things" that should take priority in these threads for a website that literally only analyzes things like what version has more grass or p's or texture resolution? What UI is snappier, or who has more friends on a given system, or what controller someone prefers? That stuff has nothing to do with the technical aspects of a game.
 
What are you talking about.

Every big multi platform title released on Xbox One and PS4 has been examine in agonising detail by GAF for performance differences. Every single one.

GAF can only do so much. E.g. we don't have frame counters (Besides dark10x :)

But yeah, you are probably right. DF should start paying us at this point.
 

Kerub

Banned
Nice. I wasn't sure on buying this but this sealed the deal. It's great to see developers ditch the parity bullshit.
 

Tagyhag

Member
"next-gen grass"

It's sad that we're comparing grass that isn't even the better looking than last gen this strongly, but when everything else looks near par I guess you need to judge what the biggest difference is.

Truth be told, that's nothing new in the world of gaming. At least we can all be happy that the difference is just grass and not crippling framerate or severe graphical downgrades.
 

KKRT00

Member
No, they missed it because they rushed out a first performance analysis for click bait.

How showing performance analysis to the audience as fast You can is a click bait? Its the most important thing about the release.

Pre-eliminary article doesnt need to about everything. Its not like they wont make big one with other differences.
Stop freaking insulting DF with stupid conspiracy theories, its getting ridiculous.
They are not perfect by any means, but they are delivering content that no other sites do. Dont people realize that making those comparisons, especially in open world game takes quite a lot of time?
And some shots fired at them are just stupid or fanboys wishful thinking.
 

-griffy-

Banned
I would be surprised if grass even affected gameplay.

Anyway, my point is that cosmetic differences between two otherwise like-for-like versions is almost too pointless to argue over. At that point, the whole conversation is as ludicrous as how it began.

I personally don't care which version of the game someone gets, but please be wiser than picking a specific version simply because its cosmetics are slightly different. I won't judge you openly, but I will judge you silently.

And without mercy.

I think this says far more about you than it does anyone else. If someone says A and B are the same, but B is slightly better, what one do you want? I'll take B. I mean, why not? Why is that so ludicrous that someone deserves to be freaking judged for it?

I sure as hell know if I had a 360 in addition to my PS3 back in the day, I would have gotten RDR on the 360 and not the PS3. Didn't stop me from buying the PS3 version, but if I had the choice I would have gone 360. I guess I should be judged silently for that because it's so ludicrous that it deserves judgement?
 

Hoo-doo

Banned
Ever since the first TESIV: Oblivion bullshots I have enjoyed me some dense foliage in games. It does a good job of hiding the (almost always pretty hideous) low-poly ground surface with smeared textures.

Not going to sway anyone, but a bonus none the less. An entire article is stretching it though.
 

Seanspeed

Banned
But when it was Red Dead Redemption to have much more grass on 360 than on PS3 it was pointed out, it's only fair to point it out here too.
Its worth pointing out definitely. DF's articles are founded on such details.

I just hope people arent trying to make this into some massive deal and revenge posting because of RDR.
 
BUT, what if they compare the two versions...and the PS4 version has a more stable framerate AND denser foliage?

Then they'll likely report it in the face-off.

Ever since the first TESIV: Oblivion bullshots I have enjoyed me some dense foliage in games. It does a good job of hiding the (almost always pretty hideous) low-poly ground surface with smeared textures.

Not going to sway anyone, but a bonus none the less. An entire article is stretching it though.

DF can see what's popular on this message board. Why wouldn't they post an article about it?
 

AgentP

Thinks mods influence posters politics. Promoted to QAnon Editor.
I'm more happy to hear R* didn't jump into that parity pool.

Meh, I think they did more of less. It reminds me of Destiny. A cross gen game, they changes the resolution and put a little more gloss on it. They had a target (1080@30) and probably nailed it early on for the PS4 and spent a while to get there on the XB1, then called it a day. Throwing a few plants and grass here and there is not really playing to the platforms strengths.
 

Portugeezer

Member
I would be surprised if grass even affected gameplay.

Anyway, my point is that cosmetic differences between two otherwise like-for-like versions is almost too pointless to argue over. At that point, the whole conversation is as ludicrous as how it began.

I personally don't care which version of the game someone gets, but please be wiser than picking a specific version simply because its cosmetics are slightly different. I won't judge you openly, but I will judge you silently.

And without mercy.

I don't think anyone will care about your judgements after this post.
 

Figments

Member
I think this says far more about you than it does anyone else. If someone says A and B are the same, but B is slightly better, what one do you want? I'll take B. I mean, why not? Why is that so ludicrous that someone deserves to be freaking judged for it?

I sure as hell know if I had a 360 in addition to my PS3 back in the day, I would have gotten RDR on the 360 and not the PS3. Didn't stop me from buying the PS3 version, but if I had the choice I would have gone 360. I guess I should be judged silently for that because it's so ludicrous that it deserves judgement?

That last bit was a joke. I'm pretty bad at those.

Regardless, it's silly that this debate lasted this long. I already said you should pick what you want, but I'm not going to refrain from saying that a decision seems, well, silly. You can do what you wish.
 

KainXVIII

Member
I hope the PC version is an absolute jungle in game :p

I present exclusive early screenshot from pc version of GTA5

hits-2012-1-02.jpg

jk
 
DF didn't need correction on anything. By the time DF had both copies of the game the grass thing had already been observed online. Their initial article was only a framerate analysis, not a face off comparing everything in the game.

Oh ok then this really is dumb, thanks for the clarification
 

cyberheater

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I hope the PC version is an absolute jungle in game :p

Add a Dinosaur and it will be Turok.

I do like the approach the dev used on this game. Keep the framerate and resolution the same but pair back detail.
 

PJV3

Member
It's all rather entertaining, if you can't have a laugh about games and grass then what can you laugh at.
 
I'm just happy there is no parity. The increased power is being used. Great job, Rock*!

Rock star deserves a pat on the back due to slightly better grass in some areas? Come the fuck on.

The PS4 is a LOT stronger than the Xbox One. That shouldn't translate into slightly better grass in some areas.
 
How showing performance analysis to the audience as fast You can is a click bait? Its the most important thing about the release.

Pre-eliminary article doesnt need to about everything. Its not like they wont make big one with other differences.
Stop freaking insulting DF with stupid conspiracy theories, its getting ridiculous.
They are not perfect by any means, but they are delivering content that on other side do. Dont people realize that making those comparisons, especially in open world game takes quite a lot of time?
And some shots fired at them are just stupid or fanboys wishful thinking.

DF makes a ton of money with these articles and they deserve to be called out when they fuck up. They used to make one big article with everything included. Now they make 10 articles, often with only one version of the game. No clickbait at all. Anyway, I am not even against the idea of doing multiple articles, but at least have both versions...
 

Teletraan1

Banned
I'll asume you have both system and you are deciding which platform to buy the game for? Other wise this seams like console war giberrish.

I have a PC that might not cut the mustard and a PS4. I want to know if the PS4 version has a stable frame rate. Some random people are reporting the frame rate is not so hot in the city. If this is the case I can probably make the PC version run at a stable frame rate when it releases next year. If you want some console war gibberish I prefer my DS4 on my PS4 over the DS4 on my PC since a lot of games are a QTE fest and I don't like having to convert A's and Bs to X's and O's. So yeah, I wish they would make with the analysis already and cut out these click bait articles so I can choose GTAV now or DA:I.
 

Figments

Member
It's all rather entertaining, if you can't have a laugh about games and grass then what can you laugh at.

Dead baby jokes, for one.

Rock star deserves a pat on the back due to slightly better grass in some areas? Come the fuck on.

The PS4 is a LOT stronger than the Xbox One. That shouldn't translate into slightly better grass in some areas.

But how much can it bench?

250lbs is weak.
 
The entire point of Digital Foundry is to analyze the tech of games.

I agree.

However, no way is the article aimed for people that want to analyse and discuss it. It's click bait. Where is the tech discussion about it in this thread?

It's clearly a PS4 is better than XBONE and here's another reason why. And it's using possibly this years biggest game. It's incredibly obvious. The comparison should be done as a whole.

But it's fine, go ahead and try to get a technical discussion about about the grass going. You wont.
 

twobear

sputum-flecked apoplexy
Per location differences is basically the best possible outcome, literally each platform being pushed to the best possible looking. Bravo, Rockstar.
 
Dead baby jokes, for one.



But how much can it bench?

250lbs is weak.

I'm just saying if that's all it takes to dodge the parity bullet we're all fucking dumb. Because its still essentially parity with slightly better grass.

In some areas. Not even all areas. Its still parity.
 

On Demand

Banned
Their video comparison is very good and shows how much this was blown out of proportion by Sony warriors. Maybe they're still hurt from last gen when the PS3 was on the other end of the grassgate.

Bottom line... Game looks and plays great on both platforms.

Going to be a long Gen for you because these kinds of differences will continue and get bigger.

I wonder if anybody complained about 360 owners last Gen about RDR? I wasn't here for that.
 
Rock star deserves a pat on the back due to slightly better grass in some areas? Come the fuck on.

The PS4 is a LOT stronger than the Xbox One. That shouldn't translate into slightly better grass in some areas.

Maybe the devs should be all called out, as s owner of both I ain't seeing it in the games so far.
 

Mononoke

Banned
Like I said, people with both.

The problem, is that shit like this may take the focus away of more important things that a 'both console owner' may be looking for.

Maybe one day we'll get DF threads on how much fun is onscreen at once.

Isn't the point of DF purely technical? What does fun have to do with anything?

I'm not saying fun isn't important, it is. But in these specific tests, and what people are looking for, it has nothing to do with things like the story, it being fun, or even the level design itself. It's about the technical performance.

Gamers have a lot of options to choose where to buy their game. And it's nice to know where it performs the best on (some people like myself, have X1, PS4 and PC. And while yeah PC is almost always going to be the best, sometimes it's nice to play on a console).
 
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