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Digital Foundry: GTA 5's next-gen grass compared
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I know I'm coming off caffeine high, and my reading comprehension may be spotty....but what was your point?
ProfessorMoran
Member
It's not like Rockstar can just magically pull extra juice out of nowhere to make the game run at 1080p 30fps on the xbone with no compromise.
Lucent
Member
lol!
Yeah I much prefer the dualshock 4. That touchpad I was feeling iffy about when I heard about it, but it allows for a lot of cool features not possible with the back button on the X1 pad.
I think Leadbeater would understand this reference.
Coolbgdog12
Member
So what there's less grass on the Xbox One version, I think the fact that the XBO has a better friends list and joystick makes it better for my preferences. My achievements and friends are better than more grass.
A lawnmower will probably be DLC for the PC version.
Mohonky
Member
Summation - DigitalFoundry Xbox lovers conspiracy.
Have you not heard about the power of cloud?
Negative points for not changing "ass" to "grass".
Your preference has nothing to do with the quality of a friends list or joysticks lmao.
I can't understand how grass and foliage is not important to people. It is one of the things bugging me most for generations that grassland was alway flat or had some stupid texture effects on it to fake grass.
It may not be the most important part of a GTA game, but the added grass and foliage was alway the main point of the "this is next gen GTA" comparison videos. And now it feels like XB1 fails to deliver that next gen promise much like the Wii U or at least is stuck halfway through.
Again, not that important for this special game, but what difference will it make in GTA VI where they won't use this advantage only for some nice meadows. How about the insane amount of trees in Drivelub, which we will probably never see in an XB1 game and how about games like Witcher 3 where the added foliage would really make a nice difference throughout the game if they use the extra power?
Unity as the first real next gen graphics game fails to use this extra power, which is probably due to XB1 being lead platform and PS4 being an "afterthought" but as soon as this changes, what differences will we see when rather the XB1 becomes the afterthought?
It may not be the most important part of a GTA game, but the added grass and foliage was alway the main point of the "this is next gen GTA" comparison videos. And now it feels like XB1 fails to deliver that next gen promise much like the Wii U or at least is stuck halfway through.
Again, not that important for this special game, but what difference will it make in GTA VI where they won't use this advantage only for some nice meadows. How about the insane amount of trees in Drivelub, which we will probably never see in an XB1 game and how about games like Witcher 3 where the added foliage would really make a nice difference throughout the game if they use the extra power?
Unity as the first real next gen graphics game fails to use this extra power, which is probably due to XB1 being lead platform and PS4 being an "afterthought" but as soon as this changes, what differences will we see when rather the XB1 becomes the afterthought?
To contribute to the actual technical talk.
I knew I had seen the sun/blue lens flare and I saw it again last night near a beach. It's very subtle/transparent on the X1, but it's there and I saw it all the time, but didn't record until after it was mentioned "missing". It only shows up if the camera is at a certain angle. I've seen it cast off of the sun and off of regular white lights around buildings in first person.
Here's a quick gif, I kept the sun on the edge of the screen and move back and forth quickly to try and make it obvious. Short and sweet here.
I knew I had seen the sun/blue lens flare and I saw it again last night near a beach. It's very subtle/transparent on the X1, but it's there and I saw it all the time, but didn't record until after it was mentioned "missing". It only shows up if the camera is at a certain angle. I've seen it cast off of the sun and off of regular white lights around buildings in first person.
Here's a quick gif, I kept the sun on the edge of the screen and move back and forth quickly to try and make it obvious. Short and sweet here.
This probably belongs here, posted in another thread but clearly more relevant here.
RGT's screenshots on GTA5.
Is this only in certain areas or is this widespread? I don't really understand why foliage would be significantly different
Check out their video here for a good side by side ps4 v x1 comparison. For more on the image above
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH15UZVPsX8&feature=youtu.be
I think they have another video going up tomorrow judging by the commentary. There are probably a few screen-shotable area's in that video for comparison but its quite interesting anyway.
TheAdmiester
Member
Only certain areas. I haven't even covered the whole map on Xbox and the grass is insanely thick in most places.
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
Could this guy go on for another 20 minutes about foliage because that was so damn interesting.
fuzzyreactor
Banned
too bad there is nothing objective about your post
Captain Tuttle
Member
The Martha Stewart one made my day.
The title of the video is "Grand Theft Auto 5 Xbox One Vs Playstation 4 Foliage Comparison & Analysis" and its actually on topic believe it or not
Here is an example of why resolution isn't everything.
When a game is announced as having the same res, or even same frame rate people knee-jerk react and call it tragic or lazy on the devs.
But there are still differences.
1080p just says how many pixels are displayed, it doesn't describe the quality of the pixels or geometry or other calculations.
Same thing with frame rate, by itself 30 or 60 means nothing. There are variables, or locks or adaptive syncs and res to control consistency.
Even if the res gap eventually closes between the 2 platforms, there are always going to be differences between the two. As an Xbox owner I am not surprised when the PS4 version has a few extra details considering the GPU and set up.
When a game is announced as having the same res, or even same frame rate people knee-jerk react and call it tragic or lazy on the devs.
But there are still differences.
1080p just says how many pixels are displayed, it doesn't describe the quality of the pixels or geometry or other calculations.
Same thing with frame rate, by itself 30 or 60 means nothing. There are variables, or locks or adaptive syncs and res to control consistency.
Even if the res gap eventually closes between the 2 platforms, there are always going to be differences between the two. As an Xbox owner I am not surprised when the PS4 version has a few extra details considering the GPU and set up.
blastprocessor
The Amiga Brotherhood
The title of the video is "Grand Theft Auto 5 Xbox One Vs Playstation 4 Foliage Comparison & Analysis" and its actually on topic believe it or not
I know l know but the presenter sounded bored lol.
KyanMehwulfe
Member
This probably belongs here, posted in another thread but clearly more relevant here.
RGT's screenshots on GTA5.
wow that's more than I would have expected.. that's too bad. genuinely I would have probably lowered res or other effects before i lowered the grass...
i know grasslol got made fun of a lot early on but a week into the game and and the grass makes a huge difference
i'd argue that the added grass to the countryside has improved the game just as much as the added traffic density AND variety to the cities.
and it does affect gameplay... watching a huge grass fire start after an explosion is pretty awesome. that grass fire will spread if there's more grass, and that can effect other objects like cops you're fighting, other cars, etc.
Windom Earle
Member
WTF, I did not know that is in the game. Cool!
Tidus_Great
Banned
ps4 version - lawnmowers hate him
SolidusDave
Member
KyanMehwulfe
Member
I'm still in LS so I haven't really went to Paleto forest yet but.... I was sure the trees swayed in the wind in that official Rockstar comparison video.
PsihoPerihelion
Member
Is it me or is the gamma on PS4 fucked up? It looks like the gamma is to the max by default or something.
mordecaii83
Member
The trees do move.
mitchman
Gold Member
Wind is not blowing perhaps.
Not in the city, at least. I've never seen the trees move and it sticks out like a sore thumb. You got trash blowing and sails fluttering, but the trees are static.
Windom Earle
Member
Yes, default gamma is way too high.