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STEAM | November II 2014 - Autumn Sale starts the 26th

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What's TOTM?

thus, the day has come, with this new gift trading rule, price mistakes are finally made irrelevant, unless price mistake happens in your region, which never happens in my region anyways

It's looks crazy, it's about animals fighting each other with magic, I'm going to give a try tomorrow.
 

Zafir

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What's TOTM?

thus, the day has come, with this new gift trading rule, price mistakes are finally made irrelevant, unless price mistake happens in your region, which never happens in my region anyways
Well, unless I'm mistaken you'll still be able to take advantage. It's just you'll have to do it with people you trust, since effectively you'd need to be gifted it instead of using the trade window.
 

Coreda

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I think those who convinced themselves that the early footage of Dark Souls 2 was of a complete build of a game that was being held back for "next-gen" are in for disappointment.

I wonder how much of an improvement the re-release will be, considering that hype build that never was.
 

Arthea

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Well, unless I'm mistaken you'll still be able to take advantage. It's just you'll have to do it with people you trust, since effectively you'd need to be gifted it instead of using the trade window.

and trusting random people on internets worked so well in the past, no? (><)
believe me, fun is over

It's looks crazy, it's about animals fighting each other with magic, I'm going to give a try tomorrow.

I still don't know what it is, that's why I asked, it never was clear to me (><)
 

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believe me, fun is over

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Zafir

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and trusting random people on internets worked so well in the past, no? (><)
believe me, fun is over



I still don't know what it is, that's why I asked, it never was clear to me (><)
Well naturally you don't do it with just anyone. It's not beyond all possibility that you may know someone on Steamgaf or on your friendslist from a particular region surely. That's what I was referring to.
 

Derp

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I guess I'm also a weirdo. I have profiles for any major game I play so they all have their own color. I also like setting the Start/Back buttons to the touchpad for certain games that use them a lot. You can start with the touchpad off (slide/scroll), and enable it by touching the touchpad and hitting the guide button.
Yes! Lightbar-tards unite!

Oh and the touchpad mouse tracking thing is damn awesome. I love stuff like this. Tech is just so beautiful.
 

Dr Dogg

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This trend of 'Remasters' is going a little too far now. We're getting stuff that's getting a 'newer, shinnier' version close to a year after the initial release quite often now. Looking at Dark Souls II it will be pretty much exactly a year before a new slant drops. And people give FIFA and Madden shit for churning out new releases every year with only minor changes but praise this kind of stuff? That's not even mentioning what goes on in the PC space where an upgrade path would be much, much more viable.
 
This trend of 'Remasters' is going a little too far now. We're getting stuff that's getting a 'newer, shinnier' version close to a year after the initial release quite often now. Looking at Dark Souls II it will be pretty much exactly a year before a new slant drops. And people give FIFA and Madden shit for churning out new releases every year with only minor changes but praise this kind of stuff? That's not even mentioning what goes on in the PC space where an upgrade path would be much, much more viable.

They are called Scamco for a reason.
 

Nzyme32

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This trend of 'Remasters' is going a little too far now. We're getting stuff that's getting a 'newer, shinnier' version close to a year after the initial release quite often now. Looking at Dark Souls II it will be pretty much exactly a year before a new slant drops. And people give FIFA and Madden shit for churning out new releases every year with only minor changes but praise this kind of stuff? That's not even mentioning what goes on in the PC space where an upgrade path would be much, much more viable.

Do we actually know that there are no upgrade options. In the end I assume many PC users will not be as eager to bite. But this is operating under the assumption that the heavy buyers of remasters are those on the consoles for which the game wasn't available for
 

Dr Dogg

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They are called Scamco for a reason.

Hahaha well I'm not just picking on them. This year has had Tomb Raider Definitive Edition, Metro Redux, The Last of Us Remastered, Sleeping Dogs Remastered, GTA V, Halo Master Chef Cookoff and even Pokemon chucked out a couple like they sometimes do and I might even be missing a couple. Even that stupid awards show with Keighley has a category for Best Remaster. Should we really be giving credence for what is essentially money for old rope? I feel partly to blame as I indulged in a couple and both Metro and Sleeping Dogs' newer version in some parts were not better that the initial offerings. While they had some new additions they lacked some effects or robustness of the previous version on PC.

Do we actually know that there are no upgrade options. In the end I assume many PC users will not be as eager to bite. But this is operating under the assumption that the heavy buyers of remasters are those on the consoles for which the game wasn't available for

Seeing as we live in a pretty connected world these days I'd love to see the figures for how many owners who played the initial game online (ie got a trophy or achievement for it) and how many of them also bought a later 'Remastered' version of the same game. I wouldn't be surprised if it was over 50% or much, much more. I mean GTA V sold to pretty much everyone with a PS3 or 360, how many PS4 or XO owners of the new version never played the first offering?
 

Derp

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This trend of 'Remasters' is going a little too far now. We're getting stuff that's getting a 'newer, shinnier' version close to a year after the initial release quite often now. Looking at Dark Souls II it will be pretty much exactly a year before a new slant drops. And people give FIFA and Madden shit for churning out new releases every year with only minor changes but praise this kind of stuff? That's not even mentioning what goes on in the PC space where an upgrade path would be much, much more viable.
I agree! However the GTA V "remaster" was absolutely great in my opinion though. If there's one remaster I approve of it has to be that. They added a whole bunch of genuinely awesome stuff alongside the visual enhancements and such. Also because PC of course :)

Ratchet and Clank Redux would be another since it's actually being properly re-imagined and remade from the ground up.
 

wetflame

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Morning all my buddies. One day left til the Autumn Sale, is everyone excited? Anyone have any games they're holding out on discounts for? For me, the LEGO Star Wars games are always up there as a "I'd like to have these but without a discount I'll wait", but I'm also looking forward to grabbing a few indies. Maybe Capsule. Of course, I'll probably check out the discounts and wait for the Winter Sale, but still.
 

Zafir

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I agree! However the GTA V "remaster" was absolutely great in my opinion though. If there's one remaster I approve of it has to be that. They added a whole bunch of genuinely awesome stuff alongside the visual enhancements and such. Also because PC of course :)

Ratchet and Clank Redux would be another since it's actually being properly re-imagined and remade from the ground up.

Well, GTAV should have been on PC from the beginning. We shouldn't have had to wait over a year really. :/
 
So I'm just waking up to the news on this 30 day trade lockout on newly purchased games but still allows gifting. Sorry if this has already been answered but are the games that have been gifted still locked out from trading for 30 days? The announcement only says gifts in the purchaser's inventory are untradeable.
 
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Derp

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Morning all my buddies. One day left til the Autumn Sale, is everyone excited? Anyone have any games they're holding out on discounts for? For me, the LEGO Star Wars games are always up there as a "I'd like to have these but without a discount I'll wait", but I'm also looking forward to grabbing a few indies. Maybe Capsule. Of course, I'll probably check out the discounts and wait for the Winter Sale, but still.
Good afternoon :p

I may finally jump on Dishonored if it gets discounted. Not sure what else I want though.

Well, GTAV should have been on PC from the beginning. We shouldn't have had to wait over a year really. :/
True haha, but it's all about profits. They saw the opportunity and grabbed it.
 

madjoki

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Well, GTAV should have been on PC from the beginning. We shouldn't have had to wait over a year really. :/

Since PC and next-gen versions were done on parallel with old-gen versions (PC was made to next-gen specs from beginning), releasing PC earlier would've harmed "next-gen" console sales.

So I'm just waking up to the news on this 30 day trade lockout on newly purchased games but still allows gifting. Sorry if this has already been answered but are the games that have been gifted still locked out from trading for 30 days? The announcement only says gifts in the purchaser's inventory are untradeable.

Yes, gifted copies are still locked for 30 days.
 

Dr Dogg

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I agree! However the GTA V "remaster" was absolutely great in my opinion though. If there's one remaster I approve of it has to be that. They added a whole bunch of genuinely awesome stuff alongside the visual enhancements and such. Also because PC of course :)

Ratchet and Clank Redux would be another since it's actually being properly re-imagined and remade from the ground up.

But these things don't just magic themselves out of thin air. They take time and more importantly money which needs to be signed off by someone in a higher managerial position that full well knows what the score is when putting out one version to suit one audience then surprisingly announce another for newer hardware a short time after. As Zafir says...

Well, GTAV should have been on PC from the beginning. We shouldn't have had to wait over a year really. :/

Pretty much but this whole ordeal seems to be about maximising the profitability of each release. PS3 & 360 then PS4 & XO and finally getting on for 15 months later a PC release. Well at least it's not the same ordeal of having two versions out on PC.
 

Derp

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Pretty much but this whole ordeal seems to be about maximising the profitability of each release. PS3 & 360 then PS4 & XO and finally getting on for 15 months later a PC release.
Yeah I had just posted that before this. Seems to be what it is I guess.
 
Does Geometry Wars 3 seem like it turned out well?

And I have been at work all day, are steam game trades effectively dead now? No way to get region free games from Russia even from trusted sellers?
 

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Haven't posted anything in the Steam OT for a looong time. Glad to see so many people enjoying Valkyria Chronicles, great game. :)
I'm probably very LTTP, but since when does this topic reside in Community?
 

Arthea

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Today is rumoured Sega bundle finally, or that rumour was confirmed to be false?

Does Geometry Wars 3 seem like it turned out well?

And I have been at work all day, are steam game trades effectively dead now? No way to get region free games from Russia even from trusted sellers?
There are bad signs about GW3 and bad rumours, but not that I know anything for sure.

from trusted, someone you know, they can still gift you games, so no problem here, gift trading is pretty much dead, I think.
 

wetflame

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Haven't posted anything in the Steam OT for a looong time. Glad to see so many people enjoying Valkyria Chronicles, great game. :)
I'm probably very LTTP, but since when does this topic reside in Community?

The Mods have decided that they don't want Community to be something to be ignored and looked down upon, so they moved a bunch of threads there in an attempt to make it a viable alternative to the main boards.
 

Dr Dogg

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Yeah I had just posted that before this. Seems to be what it is I guess.

Well at least it's coming to PC at last and not with a secondary version replacing another. I can sell my PS3 copy and be done (well I bloody well hope so). I think after my experience with Metro and Sleeping Dogs that any rereleased PC version I'm going to wait until the jury is out before committing to a purchase. Plus with Dark Souls II Super Hyper Shiny Remix using a DX11 based renderer that means no GeDoSaTo magic (well for the time being). Be interesting to put both versions side by side.
 

Zafir

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Since PC and next-gen versions were done on parallel with old-gen versions (PC was made to next-gen specs from beginning), releasing PC earlier would've harmed "next-gen" console sales.
Oh, I'm not denying that. I knew from the very beginning that the reason we had to wait for so long on a PC release was because Rockstar wanted to maximise profits. Get people to double, or even triple dip on the game by staggering the releases. Hell, that's why PC version was delayed past the next gen versions. Best version saved till last. So those who can't wait will have to buy it on next gen, and then again on PC.

The issue is, it shouldn't be happening. It's awful for consumers. Of course, Rockstar mostly get a free pass because everyone loves GTA so they're willing to buckle.
 

Vazduh

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Today is rumoured Sega bundle finally, or that rumour was confirmed to be false?

#soon (was sega's response).

Is it just bad luck or risk of rain is still a buggy mess? Game crashed to us (clients) 4-5 times yesterday, it's almost impossible to finish the game.
 

wetflame

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#soon (was sega's response).

Is it just bad luck or risk of rain is still a buggy mess? Game crashed to us (clients) 4-5 times yesterday, it's almost impossible to finish the game.

I've not had it crash on me before, it might be bad luck. I haven't played online though, so that might be why.
 
The very crappy thing that piss me off about thise whole DS2 thing, is that they obviously tuned down the original version (the one we saw from trailers) with the purpose to sell the whole game again as "next gen product"..

Have you played the PS3/Xbox 360 versions? Did you play the betas? Do you think that the graphics shown in the trailers were reasonable to pull off on the last gen hardware?
 

L.O.R.D

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i just woke up on the Dark souls 2 enhanced edition news
this is good for me because i have the season pass and i lost my save game
but , this :
Here's the Japanese press release: http://www.4gamer.net/games/196/G019662/20141125021/

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- Last-gen and new-gen versions use different game servers.
- Last-gen and new-gen versions are not compatible for online matchmaking. (PS3 to PS4 matchmaking is not supported)
- You cannot transfer save data from last-gen to new-gen.
- You cannot upgrade the Windows (DirectX9) version to the Windows (DirectX11) version.

In the press release they also specify very clearly that "last-gen" refers specifically to the PS3, 360, and DX9 versions, while "new-gen" refers to the PS4, XBO, and DX11 versions. No confusion.
i don't get it , i have to buy this game again to get the DX11 version ?
 

Zafir

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i just woke up on the Dark souls 2 enhanced edition news
this is good for me because i have the season pass and i lost my save game
but , this :

i don't get it , i have to buy this game again to get the DX11 version ?

Yes.

Likely there will be a discount like previous remasters, but still annoying.
 

derExperte

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Guess not buying Dark Souls 2 will pan out eventually.

Scamco sucks.

EDIT: Had no idea "hidden-object" games were a big thing.

Old versions will get a patch with everything new, if I understand correctly. See second quote in the dedicated thread. Edit: Okay, not everything.

And yes, they are.
 

Arthea

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Time for huge greenlight update, isn't it?
16 games were greenlit recently, among those WAS -The Hourglass of Lepidoptera (VN), also successfully kickstarted, The Legend of Sword and Fairy (still no news about English at all) and Operation: Covert that I can see.
Eternal Forest still not greenlit ...

new additions:

one more dating sim

adventure-VN-puzzle mix? count me in!

Ace Combat clone of sorts?
 

Dr Dogg

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Thanks!

So there'll be a separate version for PC with all the improvements, am I getting that right? If so those are pretty bad news
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Yeah pretty much. They seem to have confused the hell out of people by saying Windows (DX9) and Windows (DX11) which has some folks thinking it's something like the same build with a different renderer when it's been made quite clear it's two separate versions. Whether or not it's that graphically improved is to be seen and FROM have never been the best at taking decent screens for promo materials. All the content additions will be in the current PC version though bar some new 'Online Improvements' and 'Enemy and Game design improvements' which are only in the newer version whatever they are.
 
How about you learn to hold your horses and you know, wait for more information before losing your mind or coming into your pants?

It's a good general advice for anything in life, really.

I seriously don't get some people sometimes, reminds me of myself at Christmas eve when I was like 5.
 
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