SoundofSilence
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This is incorrect. The Sony VAIO Z series remains one of the greatest laptops ever made.
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Sony to cut TV, Smartphone lineup; sees growth in PlayStation, image sensors
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This is incorrect. The Sony VAIO Z series remains one of the greatest laptops ever made.
Canis lupus
Member
Sad, they had a good market share in 4k, now there's only 1 reliable and quality tv manufacturer left, Panasonic.
Im just gonna go out on a limb here and say it's not going to make that big of a difference in profit.
Sony is more of a entertainment brand more than anything today.
Cut down, not totally off. And this is for 2015. Their 4k market share is shrinking.
First time I hear Vaio and good in the same sentence.
This.
They better not fuck it up. Let the team that's been guiding the Playstation division continue to do so, they've done an amazing job with the PS4.
Agreed. Owned two VAOIs (laptops) and the build quality/design were excellent. They were overpriced, and that was the problem. In a market where "cheap, point-A to point-B" is the primary consumer focus, this doesn't work. The expensive laptop market is being cannibalized by Apple (rightfully so).
Bank loans?
Canis lupus
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Prototype Viktor
Member
They mean the IPTV independent of cable TV packageHmm, this sounds really good...
What? Oh god no
petethepanda
Member
It's the right call but still kind of a shame, Sony TVs have been great lately.
TacticalFox88
Banned
So does that mean no more Bravia?
Fuck.
Fuck.
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
I love my Sony Xperia Z1 phone.
I worry Sony may be focusing too much on bleeding their playstation base with TV and music services.
The playstation brand is working by being a games console. They should instead focus on what the thing does well.
Forget trying to bleed the people who actually bought it already.
I worry Sony may be focusing too much on bleeding their playstation base with TV and music services.
The playstation brand is working by being a games console. They should instead focus on what the thing does well.
Forget trying to bleed the people who actually bought it already.
Brainiac 8
Member
Yup, was going to say this. The TV department has been losing them money for a long time now.
I disagree on the quality part. I hope they'll keep releasing good TVs, because Sony TVs are heads and shoulder above everything else for gaming for me, in large part because it's nearly the only brand that produce TV sets with a decent (<20ms) input lag.
geordiemp
Member
so mobile lost all the money...
Too bad about the TV's as I am really happy about the quality on my 48'' Sony Smart-TV that I managed to get on sale not long ago. Before that I had tried out several TV's from various companies, but they all had problems with the colors, sound syncing, input lag and worked poorly when connected through a PC.
Still as my primary gaming TV I use my 55'' Samsung TV which I feel is unmatched when it comes to quality and user friendliness.
From my experience Sony and Samsung are miles ahead compared to other TV brands I have tried out.
Still as my primary gaming TV I use my 55'' Samsung TV which I feel is unmatched when it comes to quality and user friendliness.
From my experience Sony and Samsung are miles ahead compared to other TV brands I have tried out.
Say what? Quality-wise Sony TVs are some of the best out there.
Patapwn
Member
Yep, kicked them square in the balls
XxRampage07xX
Member
Goddamn! Dat Mobile Division Losses :O
But at least, their TV division has started to be profitable again, which is a good thing
boredandlazy
Member
I salute you fellow brother. Shits all over their range of TV's from this year.
Such a shame, awesome gaming Tv's...
Fuck Samsung with their 40+ms minimum input lag even in gaming mode.
Emedan
Member
Agree, there's really nothing like them, the compact series is fantastic for people who want really high end phones but don't want to walk around with a TV in their pockets.. Like me.
Sony needs to trim the fat. Seems to be they're aware of this.
Funny enough I was eyeing up one of their TVs just recently and I'm getting the Xperia Z3 for Christmas. Their products are getting really good again imo...
But yeah they need to trim those divisions down. Too many products, quality over quantity and what not.
Funny enough I was eyeing up one of their TVs just recently and I'm getting the Xperia Z3 for Christmas. Their products are getting really good again imo...
But yeah they need to trim those divisions down. Too many products, quality over quantity and what not.
Just to point out, the mobile loss is a paper loss. They have drastically lowered the value of the division.
My first Sony TV, the 50" W705 is being delivered on Thursday. I didn't need 3D or a free soundbar so went with the W7 over the W8.
My 46" Samsung b6000 started to die last week and when looking for a replacement the Sony W7 and W8's seemed the best value for money all around; especially for a gamer and it's even smaller than my 46" because of the slim bezel.
Do Sony ever promote the fact that these TV's are great for gamers with a lot lower input lag than other competing brands; I see no mention of it anywhere other than reviews.
They're selling a lot of PS4's and could sell more W7's and W8's to those same people if those same people were made aware of their gaming strengths.
My 46" Samsung b6000 started to die last week and when looking for a replacement the Sony W7 and W8's seemed the best value for money all around; especially for a gamer and it's even smaller than my 46" because of the slim bezel.
Do Sony ever promote the fact that these TV's are great for gamers with a lot lower input lag than other competing brands; I see no mention of it anywhere other than reviews.
They're selling a lot of PS4's and could sell more W7's and W8's to those same people if those same people were made aware of their gaming strengths.
I tend to agree on the general idea, but that's not exactly true.
There's fast Samsung and LG (actually, fast Samsung sets and fast LG sets have lower input lag than fastest Panasonic). In fact, this year, LG has put some good sets in terms of input lag, Samsung ones were quite bad, though.
But I agree that many Sony TV are great, and mostly unmatched for input lag (there's a couple Toshiba sets that have sub-20ms lag).
Raw numbers from Displaylag.com:
Sony : many sets under 20ms lag (typ. 17ms)
LG : best sets in the 23-30ms range
Samsung : best sets in the 26-30ms range
Panasonic : a single set at 27ms in DL.com, usually in the 30s-40s
Xperia was a disaster then. They should've killed mobile and kept Bravia.
Lets hope Panasonic stay in the tv market, having Samsung and LG only in the market will be really awful.
-Amon-
Member
Really, i find it unbelievable that someone could think that Samsung TV's are better than Sony one's.
Price - performance, maybe.
Saint of Killers
Member
Ditto. My 42W8 arrives tomorrow. ^_^
Maybe because the samsung plasma is better than any sony tv picture wise for much less money. Sony probably has a picture advantage in the led department vs samsung and maybe by a margin for double the price.
It made a difference when PSN was hacked which cost them around $170 million but of course no one knows the extent of this hack tho.
The PSN hack was huge.
-Amon-
Member
Those things maybe producing a better picture, but are made cheap and break a lot. From what i've experienced and read, Sony TV's are built better and last longer.
I agree, though they've should've done that a long time ago. Their TV & Smartphone business have been doing absolutely nothing but drag this company down financially.
vpance
Member
No, if anything there will be higher prices. Only on the premium models of course.
What a bummer. I really do want a Z but the price isn't worth it.
FonkyByNature
Member
Like many said here, i hope they keep their TVs as i love them a lot. They are definitely the best on the market hands down ! I've had Samsung's, Toshiba's and LG's and while LG and Toshiba are good, Samsung are absolutely worse in input lag and overall picture quality. Sometimes, i don't even understand why people buy Samsung because i feel it's so cheap.
The market needs a quality player, i hope at least that if Sony quits, someone else takes their place and continues making quality TVs.
The market needs a quality player, i hope at least that if Sony quits, someone else takes their place and continues making quality TVs.
There is still Philips though.
You need to do a little research.
Codeblew
Member
Just bought the kdl55w700b which is great.
The two your comparing aren't the same.
shadowfall
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I disagree. I have 2 bravia including a W900A. Both are excellent televisions are totally worth the cost.