Dude Legolas was unstoppable in the Rings movies too. I'd argue he was challenged in Smaug and Five Armies a lot more than he was against an entire army in Return of the King.
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The Hobbit Part 3: TBOFA What was the worst part? Of this god awful film. *Spoilers*
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Dude Legolas was unstoppable in the Rings movies too. I'd argue he was challenged in Smaug and Five Armies a lot more than he was against an entire army in Return of the King.
Worst big movie I've watched this year. It doesn't help that I watched this in 48FPS. Fucking terrible, the entire movie looks like a custscene from a game.
I'll never watch a 48FPS movie ever again. Also, I liked LotR a lot more than this trilogy. I didn't really liked any of the movies.
I'll never watch a 48FPS movie ever again. Also, I liked LotR a lot more than this trilogy. I didn't really liked any of the movies.
A Fish Aficionado
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Viggo Mortensen is better than that.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/...eter-Jackson-sacrificed-subtlety-for-CGI.html
I personally found the White Council fighting ghosts to be the most cringeworthy. As I recall, I rolled my eyes so many times at that, I almost got nauseous.
Beorn transforming mid-air, autobot style, was also fucked up.
However on the whole, I did not hate this movie like so many others. I mean, what the fuck did people expect of this.
Beorn transforming mid-air, autobot style, was also fucked up.
However on the whole, I did not hate this movie like so many others. I mean, what the fuck did people expect of this.
A good movie?
LeeRoyBrown
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For it to be as good as lord of the rings, or as good as the book that it was based on.
The Hobbit.
agreed, why does everyone hate it? i have read the OP and his most hated bits were my favourite bits
Out of the whole trilogy my least favorite thing was explicitly revealing Sauron. Sure, we would have known but his identity should have just remained as the Necromancer.
I pretty much agree. Fun movie's. Not great by any means.
Glaurung. Still alive I see.
And I was really disappointed at the lack of Christopher Lee.
I pretty much agree. Fun movie's. Not great by any means.
Glaurung. Still alive I see.
And I was really disappointed at the lack of Christopher Lee.
I believe Aragorn is actually supposed to be 10 years old at that point.
Chuckie
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Going by Tolkien lore Aragorn was actually a ten year boy living in Rivendell when Bilbo en the dwarves visited the place. I think the Battle of the Five Armies was a year later or so... so Aragorn would be an 11 year old still living in Rivendell. So yeah you are pretty much right.
He most certainly was not called Strider and roaming with the Dunedain yet.
Glaurung. Still alive I see.
And I was really disappointed at the lack of Christopher Lee.
Alfrid's arc on the whole was fucking stupid.
But I did like that one bit of slapstick when Bard kept pushing him down when the rest of Laketown were trying to lynch Alfrid. The rest of him was just tiresome.
People wanted more because the first trilogy gave us so much more. When Peter Jackson was forced to have a shoestring budget and had to build set pieces, he made superior movies. When he got a blank check and a more CGI focused set of movies, he goes so over-the-top that the scenes become drained of all tension, drama, and realism.
UncleSporky
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On a rewatch of the movie (not because I HAD to see it again, but with a different set of friends), this is slightly less bad than I first thought, because it's a callback to a previous conversation they had.
When he calls off his army and starts leaving, and Tauriel stares him down and won't let him leave, he actually says "your love for the dwarf isn't real," and they banter a little about love.
So it's him finally recognizing that yeah, it was actually real.
It's still bad dialogue being said at a bad moment in the film when we don't want to be reminded of the dwarf/elf love embarrassment, but at least it's a callback.
The OP was incredible. I liked the analysis of the first few scenes of the movie. I hated this film from almost start to finish. The only "cool" part of the movie is when the five armies started gathering in front of the mountain. But the movie was so boring, and it had so many cringeworthy scenes. Everything with Kate From Lost was terrible.
The Technomancer
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All the connections made toward the LotR trilogy can be summed up with two words: ham fisted.
……forgetit
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Lol, When legolas jumped on those bricks my brother and I turned to each other and both said "super Mario sunshine"
brandonh83
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Well, yeah, that's typically the case.
UncleSporky
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He was just looking at his girlfriend sorrowfully cradling the dead dwarf she fell in love with. I think that is a good enough reason not to want to return home.
CapitalismSucks DonkeyBalls
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Would you have the heart to return to another trilogy after swearing it off after LotR only to have to return because the original director jumped ship and you were a year into pre-production?
Of course he wasn't as invested in this, not nearly as much. Dude was burned out from the first trilogy.
I've mentioned it in 2 of the Hobbit threads. I have no idea why Billy Connolly was even in the movie if they had to CG his entire character. Made absolutely no sense. Hell, at least Christopher Lee wasn't CG, they just filmed his shit separately.
UncleSporky
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My assumption is that they shot scenes with him and decided they didn't like how he looked, much like Azog in the first movie who had a different design when he was played by a real actor.
It sucks because I was hoping the extended version would have some sort of conclusion where you see Dain take the mantle of king under the mountain, but I don't want to see a slower, dialogue heavy scene with a CG dwarf.
I mean, it was Jackson's decision to make this into a trilogy in the first place.
This is debatable, I don't know for a fact whether the studio forced his hand or not. In the end, the only rational reason for the third movie was greed, good and true.
The original plan was for two movies and in retrospect, that would have worked a lot better.
CapitalismSucks DonkeyBalls
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FTFY. PJ was perfectly fine with del Toro's vision of two movies.
E the Shaggy
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The exchange between Legalos and his dad. All of it.
Honorable mention to the idea that Laketown folk made up of old men and children who were half starved with wooden swords were able to easily kill 800 pound orcs that were head to toe wearing steel armor.
Honorable mention to the idea that Laketown folk made up of old men and children who were half starved with wooden swords were able to easily kill 800 pound orcs that were head to toe wearing steel armor.
... What.
This thread is overflowing with Middle-Earth knowledge.
This pissed me off. I saw it coming. But deep down I was thinking that scene could be a beautifully shot reflective moment of Thorin. A moment where he revels in his victory.
But nope... they fucked it up.
Jackson, Boyens and Walsh saw the wealth of material they had written and filmed and realised that it would be worth going for three films. They have gone on record saying this, btw.
Neuromancer
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Yeah that sounds terrible. I'm glad I skipped these last two movies. My only regret was watching the first one, and I should have known better. Peter Jackson was not interested in making a light hearted adventure movie, and was only interested in another epic high drama trilogy to tie in to LOTR.
whatsinaname
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1) Legolas
2) Alfrid
3) Legolas and Tauriel scenes
4) Legolas and Thranduil scenes
5) Any scene without Thorin
2) Alfrid
3) Legolas and Tauriel scenes
4) Legolas and Thranduil scenes
5) Any scene without Thorin
The Technomancer
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Speaking of bad CGI, I mean hy crap at the elves and wizards v wraithes scene. When it swooped around from above to show all the wraitges I literally thought I was looking at a Dark Souls cutscene or something
Can't say I agree with OP. I saw it last night and enjoyed it quite a bit. My expectations weren't all that high but it was certainly no worse than the previous films.
If you're not interested in fight scenes I can see why it would be tedious though.
As for the acting, well it's full of crap actors. Except Martin Freeman, I liked him.
I enjoyed the 3D HFR too. A visual feast.
If you're not interested in fight scenes I can see why it would be tedious though.
As for the acting, well it's full of crap actors. Except Martin Freeman, I liked him.
I enjoyed the 3D HFR too. A visual feast.
BattleMonkey
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Huge massive battle, and then its all epic moment to rally cause like 5 dwarves come to help. Was pretty silly looking.
Or the part where the Orcs use their secret weapon - gigantic worms - to dig holes near the battle location and that's it.
All of the Hobbit films are terrible.
All of the Hobbit films are terrible.
I haven't seen The Battle of Five Armies but with the level of ridiculous Legolas fanfiction the second movie approached I wouldn't be entirely surprised if Legolas kills Smaug in the movie.
fucking nydus, that scene was so incredibly lame
People are over doing this stuff; getting ridiculous the hate. Its a fantasy action film. Not as awful as Part Two as it drew back to the good nice Hobbity stuff of Part One.
Theres a thread for these discussions, both spoiler and non-spoiler - these sorts of threads never strike me as welcoming discussion off the bat and making sure their in an environment where the OP does not need to. Its not an old film, its out and theres OTs as you'd expect.
For me Hobbit One is best and probably only outshone by Fellowship when all is done. Series would have been better with two Hobbit films, clearly a lot of stuff was added around Bilbos antics - movie should have kept his POV.
It starts in Two Towers; the rewriting of LotR is ridiculous. Fortunately Helms Deep is brilliantly done, other than that the action in films 2/3 is pretty weak with Eowyn and Sam only getting very good moments. Aragorn, Gimli and Legolas are non-entities who go ghost hunting and then look bruised in a final fight scene.
Theres a thread for these discussions, both spoiler and non-spoiler - these sorts of threads never strike me as welcoming discussion off the bat and making sure their in an environment where the OP does not need to. Its not an old film, its out and theres OTs as you'd expect.
For me Hobbit One is best and probably only outshone by Fellowship when all is done. Series would have been better with two Hobbit films, clearly a lot of stuff was added around Bilbos antics - movie should have kept his POV.
It starts in Two Towers; the rewriting of LotR is ridiculous. Fortunately Helms Deep is brilliantly done, other than that the action in films 2/3 is pretty weak with Eowyn and Sam only getting very good moments. Aragorn, Gimli and Legolas are non-entities who go ghost hunting and then look bruised in a final fight scene.
Either the scene mentioned in the OP with Bard escaping prison or the scene where bard jams his bow parts into the walls or some shit and then uses the kid to aim his arrow. The force of pulling the bowstring doesn't yank the bow from wherever the hell he jammed it, and the string somehow doesn't snap that kid. The physics of that scene is just mindbogglingly stupid.
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