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Nintendo's next platform will run Android. Here's why.

jimi_dini

Member
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The facts in the OP, such as the allocation of internal teams to the creation of smartphone games, which takes resources away from core platform software development, and the adoption of ARM processors.

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The benefits, mentioned in the OP.

Perhaps people should talk about the reasons Nintendo should not use Android?

So tales from your ass. Got it.

I think the word you're looking for is speculation.
 

Scipio

Member
No. One Google search and you can illegally play Android game, which would push Nintendo essentially to Freemium games.
 

Kyuur

Member
Android is also a platform where a piracy is rampant, so I doubt they would use it for their core devices. Ouya also wasn't exactly a huge success despite the existing catalog of Android apps, so I don't really see that factoring in.

Of course 'based off' could mean anything. It's like saying that PS4 runs Linux.

Edit: Additionally, they plan to target iOS and PC with their new plan as well. A better strategy would just be to make sure their tools can target a variety of platforms. They already do this to an extent with the Nintendo Web Framework and Unity partnership.
 
The title is presented as a debate to be challenged, with facts and speculation in the OP to back up the assertion.

If you want discussion, back up the facts with sources so people won't start accusing you of being a loony. If you expected not to be mocked for your speculation while being pretty convinced of it despite no source info then I don't know what to tell you.
 
Well Iwata has talked about Android (and iOS) as an inspiration at least for a future platform.

“To cite a specific case, Apple is able to release smart devices with various form factors one after another because there is one way of programming adopted by all platforms. Apple has a common platform called iOS,” Iwata stated. “Another example is Android. Though there are various models, Android does not face software shortages because there is one common way of programming on the Android platform that works with various models. Nintendo platforms should be like those two examples.”

http://www.siliconera.com/2014/02/03/future-nintendo-devices-inspired-ios-android-operating-systems/
 
Ain't happening. They'll probably make sure it's easy to port mobile games though.

Also I'd just like to throw in that I personally believe NX is their next handheld, just makes more sense to me with the time frame presented.
 

KingJ2002

Member
Doubtful OP... Nintendo wouldn't go through the lengths of developing their own operating system to dual boot android in the process.
 
Nintendo current focus with Mario vs Dk tipping stars and indie dev relationships points to make it easier to port mobile ... not literaly acepting mobiles because it is a GAME FOCUSED DEVICE


Also, NGage, Virtual Boy and now Ouya ? xD

Nintendo Web Frame work. :)
 

nakedeyes

Banned
Uhhh. I dunno what you are smoking but it certainly seems to alter ones perception!!

Things wrong with this post:
* thread title written as if it is confirmed news ( hint: it's a stabbing guess in the dark )
* as others have mentioned, Nintendo would likely not choose android as there are known exploits they would have to fix up
* you say it's "all but confirmed" when, in reality, it hasn't even had a vague hint given by Nintendo
* Nintendo working on Andoid games is not proof they will base all future hardware OS' on Android.
* you call people out for saying "no" and that's it, yet your OP is essentially saying "yes, cause I said so" and that's it.

Come on 300 posts! Can't wait to be a full member so I can makes posts about random afternoon "what if?"s that sounds like news is breaking!
 
Yeah, they'll rest the future of their software business on the most highly exploitable os in the history of computers. Welp, this was good for a laugh if nothing else.
 

iMax

Member
The title is presented as a debate to be challenged, with facts and speculation in the OP to back up the assertion.

You're missing the point.

Your title is a straight up fact. If it's an assertion like you say, a more suitable title might be "Why Nintendo's next platform looks like it might run Android." The word 'will' implies an inevitable event.

Let's examine the 'facts' you've posted. I've highlighted the ones that aren't facts in red.

Nintendo NX:
• Plays dedicated Nintendo NX games
• Plays Nintendo smartphone games
• Backwards compatible with Wii U games
• Possibly also plays Nintendo 4DS games, akin to Super Game Boy and Game Boy Player, in order to bolster the console's library and not end up with another Wii U situation

Nintendo 4DS (placeholder name for next handheld):
• Plays dedicated Nintendo 4DS games
• Plays Nintendo smartphone games
• Backwards compatible with Nintendo 3DS games

You've come to the idea that the NX is running Android because it i) plays dedicated games, ii) and smartphone games—that's it.

Am I missing something?
 

RM8

Member
I mean, even if you ignore piracy (and honestly you can't, Android piracy rates make PC blush) OP thinks emulating 3DS and WiiU is something achievable on Android. I'd like to remind you, dear OP, that 3DS and WiiU can't even emulate GBA and GCN/Wii respectively.

Isn't the PC 3DS emulator pretty awful right now, 4 years after the release of 3DS?
 
Using Android doesn't mean you can just start side-loading .apk files all willy nilly. You can do that because Google releases it as an open, consumer product. Anyone making their own distro can easily lock that stuff down.
 

orioto

Good Art™
It's sad to see all that philosophy of modern strategy and global os etc in the OP.. and still making the horrible and useless mistake of having TWO dedicated gaming system.

It's funny cause gamers are all about Nintendo modernization nowadays but they still can't go beyond that conservative idea that Nintendo needs two systems, one being for the tv.

The day Nintendo realize they only need their portable, it'll be a great success for them.
 

WolvenOne

Member
Nintendo, "should," use a modified version of Android OS for their next major platform, because it's cheap, relatively stable, and would allow easy porting back and forth between mobile devices. But lets be real here, it's Nintendo. Nintendo has proven time and time again that they're perfectly willing to go it alone, and lending some IP out to a mobile game company doesn't necessarily change that.

I certainly wouldn't be surprised if their next platform ran off a modified version of Android OS, but I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't either.
 
I can't picture this happening.

And in this situation "no" would suffice because there is absolutely nothing indicating they would ever do this to begin with. Even their history of using their own designs proves they wouldnt.

Not only that but exactly do they gain? They would put so much into modifying it to their needs it wouldn't even be Android at that point.

They just need emulators to play a mobile game on their next console.
 

Tadaima

Member
Let's examine the 'facts' you've posted. I've highlighted the ones that aren't facts in red.

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Am I missing something?

Yes, you are. The line directly above that, which states "I think what we are likely to see will be structured as such:"

I think does not equal "Fact"
 

cameltoad

Neo Member
I believe you. It would obviously be a custom OS (like Fire OS etc), but it's likely enough to be based on Android.

Not sure why everyone seems to disagree. I remember Nintendo mentioning android in the past.
 

sonto340

Member
OP should work for Game press.
What a magnificent click bait title.


Nintendo will never use any operating system they haven't designed for their console. Period. End of story. At most they may do a PSMobile style thing where they emulate Android or iOS games on their own architecture but you will never, ever see a non Nintendo designed OS on a Nintendo device. I will eat my hat if it ever happens.
 

Tadaima

Member
I mean, even if you ignore piracy (and honestly you can't, Android piracy rates make PC blush) OP thinks emulating 3DS and WiiU is something achievable on Android. I'd like to remind you, dear OP, that 3DS and WiiU can't even emulate GBA and GCN/Wii respectively.

Isn't the PC 3DS emulator pretty awful right now, 4 years after the release of 3DS?

No, I don't think Android can emulate Wii U or 3DS. Nintendo can retain elements of the Wii U/DS architecture to run the software, as they have done with every single handheld platform, as well as the last two home platforms.
 

RM8

Member
Is there any Android custom build that hasn't been cracked? Plot twist, the NX will run Windows Phone!
 
It's sad to see all that philosophy of modern strategy and global os etc in the OP.. and still making the horrible and useless mistake of having TWO dedicated gaming system.

It's funny cause gamers are all about Nintendo modernization nowadays but they still can't go beyond that conservative idea that Nintendo needs two systems, one being for the tv.

The day Nintendo realize they only need their portable, it'll be a great success for them.
That's cutting off a revenue stream, so unless their next console makes absolutely no money it isn't worth it.
 

mrlion

Member
Isn't the PC 3DS emulator pretty awful right now, 4 years after the release of 3DS?

It doesn't run full speed with high graphics yet but its advancing at a speed much faster than any other emulator made during their infancy.
 

Tadaima

Member
So far, all I see is:
1. People laughing at the idea;
2. People pointing to piracy as the only reason Android will not be adopted.

Adoption of Android does not = piracy. As has been mentioned, it can be locked down. Nintendo is getting much better at that.

I listed off six good reasons why Android makes business sense for Nintendo. I am yet to see a reason why it does not.
 

Nanashrew

Banned
Well Iwata has talked about Android (and iOS) as an inspiration at least for a future platform.



http://www.siliconera.com/2014/02/03/future-nintendo-devices-inspired-ios-android-operating-systems/

Yep. In full context he's talking about the ease of development and connectivity. The Android and Apple ecosystems have this and Nintendo's looking into this method as well for their own systems. Iwata likes bring up the systems like a family and even talked about how he wants the handheld and home console to be brother and sister again like they used to be.

But that is as far as the comparison goes. Nintendo will forge their own path of going about this.
 

nynt9

Member
Ignoring the ridiculous premise of the OP, Android is a poor choice for a gaming system. You want to squeeze as much power as possible from your hardware and android is not great for that. It's for running software across multiple platforms at the cost of optimization. The worst nightmare of a console developer.

Why am I even dignifying this thread with a response?
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
For someone unfamiliar with Android and only going with what I see online, wouldn't this make it easily susceptible for hacking/piracy?

Edit: Apparently it would.
 

RM8

Member
It doesn't run full speed with high graphics yet but its advancing at a speed much faster than any other emulator made during their infancy.
Meanwhile, Nintendo isn't comfortable with emulating GBA on 3DS :p

Adoption of Android does not = piracy. As has been mentioned, it can be locked down. Nintendo is getting much better at that.
Can you please mention a custom build of Android that has not been cracked? Nintendo is good at it because they use their own, closed OS. Had you considered that? :p
 

diablos991

Can’t stump the diablos
Yes, you are. The line directly above that, which states "I think what we are likely to see will be structured as such:"

I think does not equal "Fact"

Let me direct you to the title: "Nintendo's next platform will run Android." + some buzzfeed bullshit on the end.

If you start "discussions" this way you will always get resistance. This is a very heavy-handed thread claiming your stab in the dark is closer than any other stab in the dark.

The first step is to have evidence behind your assertions.

As it sits now, this thread jumped to the top of my "worst threads of 2014 list" pretty much based on your approach.

Next time present your opinions as opinions and don't expect the burden of disproving your opinions to be placed on your audience. The burden of proof is on you when you said Nintendo's next platform will run Android.
 

sonto340

Member
So far, all I see is:
1. People laughing at the idea;
2. People pointing to piracy as the only reason Android will not be adopted.

Adoption of Android does not = piracy. As has been mentioned, it can be locked down. Nintendo is getting much better at that.

I listed off six good reasons why Android makes business sense for Nintendo. I am yet to see a reason why it does not.
Android can not be locked down. Any device released on android has been shattered open and allowed sidelining of apps and games and eventual custom rom installation.
 

WalkMan

Banned
Android circlejerk, yea let's adopt an inherently insecure system and go against all evidence that Nintendo favors rolling their own solution.
 
Using Android doesn't mean you can just start side-loading .apk files all willy nilly. You can do that because Google releases it as an open, consumer product. Anyone making their own distro can easily lock that stuff down.

Lock it down but easily unlocked. Speaking of locks...

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Tempy

don't ask me for codes
Tales From My Ass

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